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Published: Monday, Dec. 12 2011 10:20 a.m. MST

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worf
Mcallen, TX

Supreme court filled with Obama cronies? Umm? I wonder what they're findings are going to be?

sportsfan21
OREM, UT

Anyone who has read the constitution knows that laws pertaining to naturalization must be passed by federal legislation. Unless Federal officers are given the right to arrest any suspected illegal immigrant, an Arizona State Tropper can't.

wrz
Salt Lake, UTah

@sportsfan21:

"Unless Federal officers are given the right to arrest any suspected illegal immigrant, an Arizona State Trooper can't."

Federal law permits working relationships between federal and state law enforcement. For example, the federal ATF (Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives) cite contains the following mission statement:

'A unique law enforcement agency in the United States Department of Justice that protects our communities from violent criminals, criminal organizations, the illegal use and trafficking of firearms, the illegal use and storage of explosives, acts of arson and bombings, acts of terrorism, and the illegal diversion of alcohol and tobacco products. We partner with communities, industries, law enforcement, and public safety agencies to safeguard the public we serve through information sharing, training, research, and use of technology.'

don17
Temecula, CA

Here's some info related. The California Assembly is moving a law through to give illegal aliens citizenship! Figure that one out. If the Federal Government is sueing states from stopping illegal immigration or in providing benefits then why does the Federal Government and the Administration(Justice Dept) sue California for usurping its authority like it claims Arizona is doing? Why? Because the Obama administration supports not enforcing the Constitution!

By the way Governor Jerry Brown and the Assembly passed another law in the last few weeks to provide at least 65 million dollars in higher education grants to illegal aliens! Paid for by all the citizen tax payers in California even if they can't afford to send their own kids to school! The Administration is not sueing California for failing to provide equal protection to its citizens or legal minors? Why? Because the Obama Administration supports bigotry, discrimination and racial profiling as long as it promotes his desired bigotry, discrimination and racial profiling against American Citizens!

don17
Temecula, CA

correction (justice dept)NOT sue California:: was what was meant!

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

If they uphold it, Arizona can go bankrupt as try to enforce it.

Phranc
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@worf

realy worf? five of the nine justices where appointed by republicans only two of the nine are Obama appointees. it would really help if you knew some basic facts before posting.

m.g. scott
LAYTON, UT

Does this make sense to any of you. A border state, such as Arizone cannot legally do anything to prevent non-US people from coming in. Only the Federal Government can do that. Then when the Feds fail to do it, the same state still cannot do anything to stop it. Then if the illegal makes it into the state, the state has an obligation to feed, house, educate, and provide medical care to the person(s) who should not be there at all. Then when the state asks the Feds to at least pay for this expense, they say "it's your problem". Does that make any sense? Anyone? What am I missing.

sportsfan21
OREM, UT

@wrz

I was a little unclear. I meant to say something along the lines of "When federal legislation allows officers to arrest anyone suspected of being illegal, then Arizona state troopers can do the same." It's not that the state can't help the feds enforce laws, they just can't make them. I agree with you that state and local officers are needed to enforce federal laws. However, Arizona can't give their officers more power than the feds are. As an example, the federal government has control over trade between countries and they allow local authorities to uphold the laws. The state of Washington can't make laws about imports even though they have the power to uphold laws already in place.

@MG Scott

Arizona can use laws in place to arrest illegal immigrants (not just someone they suspect to be illegal). It's no different than Florida not being able to suspend the need for search warrants in an attempt to battle drugs.

wrz
Salt Lake, UTah

@sportsfan21:

"I meant to say something along the lines of 'When federal legislation allows officers to arrest anyone suspected of being illegal, then Arizona state troopers can do the same.'"

State troopers can't make arrests as relates to immigration, which, according to AG Eric Holder, is a federal task and responsibility... although, so far, Holder has made little or no effort in that direction.

"It's not that the state can't help the feds enforce laws, they just can't make them."

States don't need immigration laws. There's sufficient federal immigration laws. The puzzling thing about this whole issue is, federal and state governments could get together and draw up agreements where states can pitch in and held the fed enforcement. There are states with such agreements. These agreements would save much consternation. And SCOTUS wouldn't need to get involved. Easy solution.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Consider the ramifications if the Supreme Court upholds Obama and Holders' nonsensical position!

Wouldn't that mean that if a state is invaded by illegal aliens with the purpose of taking over a state and doing harm to the citizens (already happening)then the state is powerless to do anything?

At what point will a state be able to protect its citizens from foreign invaders?

The federal police forces (ICE, ATF, border patrol)have been politicized. What do the states do when those federal agencies we hire (and expect)to protect us are given orders to "look the other way"?

Mr. Bean
Salt Lake, UTah

@m.g. scott:

"A border state, such as Arizone cannot legally do anything to prevent non-US people from coming in."

Arizona can do something. It can get and agreement to partnership with the Fed for immigration law enforcement as per following:

Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) Section 287(g) [codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1357(g)] authorizes the Federal Government to enter into agreements with state and local law enforcement agencies, permitting designated officers to perform immigration law enforcement functions, pursuant to a Memorandum of Agreement, provided that the local law enforcement officers receive appropriate training and function under the supervision of sworn U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers.

"Does that make any sense? Anyone? What am I missing?"

See above.

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