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Published: Monday, Dec. 12 2011 12:00 a.m. MST

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Syracuse, UT

Keep up with your memory of just the past couple of years. Please look at ALL the time u were in the MWC. How many conference championships did u win? How many did u win while in the WAC? U do not have a storied program and yes, u were in the middle most of the time. As to your "something the Y can never do", Never is a long time and it was in 1984 that we did win a NC. Now that is something that the u will never do!



How about this, we as utah fans will acknowledge that BYU was all-dominant and that we would have loved to be in your situation in the 70's and 80's, and you can admit that you are 100% jealous that Utah busted the BCS twice in the last decade, were invited to the Pac 12, and have a good chance of challenging for the Pac-12 south in the future. Face it, you can not honestly say that you would trade MWC and WAC championships for going to (and winning) BCS games.

Rock Of The Marne
Phoenix, AZ

New flash Eddie, BYU did not win a National Championship in 1984, there was no championship game. All BYU did was beat a lousy 6-5 Michigan team (close game despite that fact) in a third rate bowl and a bunch of unranked WAC teams. Then somehow, via a fluke in the rules where BYU wound up the only undefeated team in the country (not hard when you play such a weak schedule) BYU lucked out and was AWARDED (did not win) the NC which led to many collective moans across the country (i.e. Bo Diddly Tech references); 1984 is not something I would be touting as most people outside of Utah view it as a mistake as BYU beat nobody that made the final top 25; that deserves the NC?. Lets see, beating no final ranked teams and then barely beating a 6-5 barley bowl eligible Michigan team in a third rate bowl nobody watched or beating two top 10 and an a additional two top 25 teams including a beat down of a former #1 (earlier in the season) SEC power Alabama Crimson Tide team in a major bowl; not to mention 2004; enough said.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@Rock Of The Marne

"BYU lucked out and was AWARDED (did not win) the NC..."

Indeed, Mr. Rock, BYU's awarded national championship was the first step to the establishment of the current BCS system which now excludes them.

The BCS excludes BYU because it demands victory over quality opposition, an ability for which BYU has routinely proven incapable.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA


"Keep up with your memory of just the past couple of years. Please look at ALL the time u were in the MWC. How many conference championships did u win? How many did u win while in the WAC? U do not have a storied program and yes, u were in the middle most of the time."

In the 12 yrs Utah was a member of the MWC, we won 4 conference championships. TCU also won 4 MWC championships during THEIR tenure from 2005-2011. Both Utah and TCU had 2 undefeated seasons and 2 BCS bowls. The Y won 4 MWC championships, but they were never dominant enough to bust the BCS. Edge: Utah and TCU.

As for the WAC...who cares? They Y dominated the WAC once the Arizona schools left, but by the time they advanced to the MWC, their days of glory were long gone. The cougars have become an irrelevant has-been. First Bronco had his players lie down on the field at LES and dream of past glories. Then he played his final 2009 regular season game in the cougars' WAC glory years bright royal blue colors. Then finally, he and Holmoe negotiated for readmission to that lower-tiered mid-majorey league. The WAC is where you belong. The Pac-12 is were WE belong. The Big XII is where TCU belongs. Edge: Utah and TCU.

Have fun down there in the WAC. I'm sure you win lots of games vs. those cupcake league members.

Man About Town
Syracuse, UT

to Bleed Crimson:

Your comments make me laugh! Every single post made by the Ute faithful on the one hand talk about how great the Utes are and how bad BYU is. How important Utah is now that you are in the PAC-12, and how irrelevant BYU is going off into independence and obscurity, etc. You see the theme here.

And yet, when BYU fans point out that Utah had a mediocre season at best, and lost to the doormat of the PAC-12, your comeback is...

Utah beat BYU 54-10 and that justifies Whittingham's salary increase!

You can't have it both ways - either:

1) BYU isn't relevant as you so loudly proclaim over and over and over ad nauseum, or

2) BYU is relevant and you define success for your season(s) on beating BYU

Which is it? If BYU announced a huge salary increase for Bronco Mendenhall and BYU fans loudly trumpeted to the world that Coach Mendenhall deserved the pay raise because we thumped FCS Idaho State 56-3, you would die laughing.

Summary: No matter how much you pretend BYU doesn't matter, Utah fans can't live without comparing themselves to BYU.

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