Two weeks ago I would have told many of you that BYU would beat Washington
State. Now that Leach is the new Coach I think Mendenhall will take his Lil Band
of Brother T-shirt and have a burning session after the game! BYU will lose this
game by a big score!!
Yeah. Big time football comes to Provo. Best if I just choke
down this brussel sprout for one more year and hope that we get better teams
lined up - Yes I know 2013 looks good but it is so hard to continue to eat this
diet of badness while waiting on the treats. I know the ships have
sailed but I would rather have a fighting underdog chance against a steady diet
of Big 12 teams than this cobbled together mix and match of teams from the
underbelly of the Pac 12 and the WAC.But if we win... Maybe we can
play in the Hunger Bowl or whatever it is.
That is actually a pretty good schedule.8 good opponents, in Utah,
Boise, GT, WSU, USU, ND, OSU, and Hawaii. 4 lesser oppenents although Weber at
least has some local interest as an opponent. Every game winnable but none of
the 8 good ones are a guaranteed win. I think they have done a very
good job of putting the schedule together in such a short amount of time and the
2013 schedule looks really good.Nice job!
Well 'girlse'... According to your criteria that top notch
competition is only to be found in BCS teams you should be jumping for joy that
BYU's schedule for 2012 has risen exponentially by adding another BCS team.The hypocrisy from you utesies is just pathetic.It's a
welcomed addition, we'll take any Pac 10.2 team on these terms and are grateful
to Washington St for working this in.We are also grateful for the
Colorado Buffs, another BCS team, that recently graced our beautiful state.
@ Duckhunter | 4:37 p.m. Dec. 9, 2011 Highland, UT 3 of those
"good opponents" are from the PAC 12. You know the conference you
spend all of your time bashing. Pretty hypocritical of you.Typical
This is a good way to prepare for the Utes and by starting out with their
outstanding competition in the Pac 10.2. Utah will probably start with Montana.
54-10Having a bad day are we? Duckhunter's comment said
absolutely nothing derogatory about your conference.I on the other
hand will. It ain't what its cracked up to be. Except for Oregon, Stanford and
USC the rest of you mid-majors can fight amongst yourselves for the meager
leftover bowls.You lost to the Buffs, I know it still hurts but...
get over it.
BYU vs. Washington State: Go Cougars! ha ha!
While next year's schedule is better with Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Boise State,
Utah State and Hawaii, it still features bottom feeders from the WAC and PAC12.
Playing Washington State, Oregon State and Utah doesn't exactly bolster the
Cougars' strength of schedule, but show me a team from any BcS conference that
doesn't play some patsies.
Well I guess playing the two bottom teams in the PAC 12 is better than two Idaho
No it's not an SEC schedule, but it's a whole lot better than a MWC schedule,
and better than the 2011 schedule, and comparable to the Utes schedule (only
time will tell for sure how comparable). Here's how BYU's games
match-up with the Utes. Where the match-up wasn't quite comparable, I listed a
+ by the team who has the more difficult opponent. BYU OPPONENT -
UTAH OPPONENTWeber State - FCS openerUtah State - Utah
StateUtah - BYU Hawaii - Arizona State Oregon State - Oregon
StateWashington State - Washington State++ Boise State - California
Notre Dame - USC New Mexico State - + ArizonaSan Jose State -
ColoradoIdaho - + UCLA+ Georgia Tech - WashingtonThe
only games I wish we could switch would be New Mexico State for Air Force and
Idaho for San Diego St. I like the rest of the scheduled oponents. Go Cougs!
CougarFaninTX,I agree except that USC is probably better than Notre
Dame; especially if Barkley returns. I also don't know that I would rate Georgia
Tech better than UW. The best part of this schedule is that most of the bad
teams we play are on the road. Should be a decent home schedule for us.
A home and home with Washington State? Congrats Cougars.Must be fun to have a little taste of Utah's schedule...Utah has a
perpetual home and home series with Washington State, Oregon State, USC,
Stanford, Cal., Oregon, etc... Utah has a place at the "big
boy" table of college football... and BYU gets another heaping helping of
@gchrisI know Utah played a patsie (byu 54-10) are you serious. It
will be three in a row next year for Utah, 8 out of last 11. Then the U will
have to move on to bigger and better teams after next season. Sorry for leaving
you behind, you guys will never know how fun it is being in a major conference.
You are still nothing of nothing. Have fun watching nothing.
Oh, Howard WSU OSU CU, big boys?You can do better than
Indeed, Howard, Utah does have a home-and-home, with Colorado, Washington, ASU,
Cal, USC... See a trend there? (Colorado... still makes me laugh!)
@ Y Grad/Y DadOf course Utah would prefer San Jose, NM State, and
Idaho in November... but they were already booked... So we had to settle for BCS
@SportzFanIt seems that if it weren't for Utah/Colorado, BYU would
have had little to cheer about this year... smacks of "little
brother". But whatever... Utah has a date with Ga. Tech of the
ACC in the Sun Bowl ($2.0 million payout)... BYU has a date with...
(I can't remember)... in the...(insert third tier bowl game here).I'd rather be in Utah's position.... and so would the Cougar Nation.
Here BYU fans talk about how bad Washington State is when Utah played them this
year. You guys call them the "bottom feeders" of the Pac-12. Here BYU
announces a home and home series with them and you Y fans are saying they're a
solid program for your schedule.Hypocrisy from BYU fans at it's
finest! So what is it Y fans? Is Washington State that bad, I mean "bottom
feeder" bad? or are they a solid Pac-12 team? This is so BYU!
@kosta 54-10 mcnuggetvilleI said "good" opponents, I
didn't say 'great' or 'excellent' or even 'really good', just "good".
Boise might be considered "really good" except they lose their qb and
several more players. The rest are just "good" at best. Also "good" doesn't necessarily mean the team itself is
"good" more like it just is an interesting opponent for various
reasons. I don't really think you can classify OSU, WSU or utah as
"good" teams but they do all hold interest for some reason. Mike leach
taking over at WSU makes that one interesting, the return game from OSU makes
that one interesting. The utah game is interesting because of what it is and
because of this years result.But no those certainly aren't great
teams by any stretch.
@Duckhunter"But no those certainly aren't great teams by any
stretch."***************So where are all the great teams
ringing Tom Holmoe's phone off the hook for a chance to play BYU?
@howieYou can only schedule 12 per year. But of course even you
realize most games are scheduled several years in advance, we'll see them as
they sign the contracts.
Announce? I thought this was already a done deal, just needed the date
settled.Anyway, I agree with duckhunter about his "good"
team assessment, with maybe the exception of Hawaii. The Rainbow warriors have
generally not been a good mainland team. I would have put them in the
"Idaho" category.Of course, that is next year and we
haven't even finished this one.====I do find it ironic that
some BYU fans have chosen to bash Utah's bowl opponent and then gone on to tout
how awesome it will be to play GATech next year. Do they have some sort of
awesome recruiting class coming in or something?
Duckhunter"You can only schedule 12 per year."***********Riiight... It must have been tough to turn down LSU,
Alabama, Oregon, and Stanford because there just wasn't room on the schedule...
especially after signing San Jose, NM St, and Idaho.
Yes, Howard we know Utah has a date with #45 Georgia Tech from the mighty ACC,
the only BCS conference that just might be worse than the PAC 3 top to bottom.
We're all jealous.
Howard, funny you should mention the only Pac 3 teams you didn't play in your
post. Aren't you glad you didn't play a real PAC 3 schedule? You wouldn't have
that great bowl matchup to brag about if you had. You will never get a better
opportunity to play in the PAC 3 championship not playing Stanford or Oregon or
even have to beat USC and you still couldn't do it! Brag about your Pac
schedule when you play (or beat) the best teams.
Go (Pac-12) Cougs!
@ 17-14 Hurts Don't It?"You lost to the Buffs, I know it still
hurts but... get over it".You lost to the Utes 54-10, I know it
still hurts but.... get over it!
@DisgruntledDissing Georgia Tech?Isn't that the same Ga.
Tech match up that BYU announced with such rejoicing and fanfare?
@17-14 Hurts Don't It?It must be a sad existence when the highlight
of your football season is Utah's misstep against Colorado... can you say
Just think.....Jake Heaps could play for WSU and Coach Leach and actually throw
for 350 yards in a 35 to 10 win over BYU in 2013!! WOW!
@Disgruntled"You will never get a better opportunity to play in
the PAC 3 championship..."**********Whatever Utah's PAC
12 championship opportunities are, they are infinitely greater than BYU's.BYU, however, does hold the distinct honor of being the 2011 unofficial
WAC champion... soooo... you do have that going for you... which is nice.
@CougfanintxI'd agree for the most part, except USC even without
Barkley is probably going to be better than Notre Dame. This year Georgia Tech
and washington are fairly evenly ranked... I do like Georgia Tech's prospects
for next year a bit more than Washington's so I won't say you're wrong on that
one, I just would not be too surprised if they were even. The
important thing is the part you got right that almost nobody else seems to
acknowledge... BYU and Utah are fairly evenly matched despite all the 9-3 vs 7-5
and the 45-10 claims.@Howard S."BYU has a date with... (I
can't remember)... "Tulsa. You'd remember if you actually paid
attention to college football seeing as Tulsa is ranked higher than Utah,
Georgia Tech, and BYU. They went 8-4 with their 4 losses being to teams that
when they played them were in the top 10.
@Disgruntled"Yes, Howard we know Utah has a date with #45 Georgia
Tech from the mighty ACC, the only BCS conference that just might be worse than
the PAC 3 top to bottom."It's pretty obvious that the ACC is
worse than the PAC-12. Oh and you forgot about the existence of the Big East,
though in fairness they shouldn't even be a BCS conference.
@ atl134"Tulsa. You'd remember if you actually paid attention
to college football..."************Is that the same Tulsa
of the non-BCS CUSA with a strength of schedule ranked 60th as compared to
Utah's 37th ranked SOS?
@CougFanin TX - I like what he says. I agree for the most part. I feel like
the schedules are relatively even. I think being in the PAC 12, the Utes are
able to play more established and prestigious schools. Has Cal been great in
the past? Yes. Is Boise St. better now? Yes. Does playing Arizona St. sound
better than playing Hawaii? I think so. I'm excited for the
future. I am a Coug fan through and through and I'm hoping to have great
schedules in the future. This November was boring, it was. Was it worse than
the MWC? Somewhat. I think the future looks much brighter. I've accepted the
fact that as long as we are independent are November schedules will have WAC
teams; I would hope to get the service academies in the schedules (they don't
always have the best records but I think it would be fun to play them). By the way, there will always be Utah people that bash on BYU as well as
BYU people bashing on Utah. I wish it wasn't so. I think it's fun to trash
talk but only when there is a common understanding between the two parties that
it's just for fun. Disrespect for either side is poor behavior. A dislike and
disagreement is fine if that is what someone feels, but a lack of respect is
never warranted.I am curious, why were there two pages of comments
at this article posted at 4:30 and not a single comment on a Ute article about
the bowl game posted at 6:30?
I commend BYU scheduler for getting another PAC12 team in 2012 schedule. As next
year schedule is better than 2011, in that they have six good games teams from
BCS conference in: Utah, Oregon State, Washington State, Boise State, and
Georgia Tech and well known independent in Notre Dame. I wouldn't have scheduled
these five teams: Weber State, Utah State, New Mexico State, San Jose State, and
Idaho. Playing them does nothing in helping BYU advance in the weekly poll
ranking as this year 9-3 season showed that. I would only schedule Hawaii as
13th game if played in Hawaii. Playing a team from a BCS conference far
outweighs playing a team from the MWC, WAC, or C-USA conference. We kid
ourselves if we think those teams are at the same level as a team from the BCS
conference when judged by the coaches and/or sports media pollsters.
@Howard SThe Colorado Buffs Co-won an NC in 1990 and have been
playing big boy conference football since the Utes were in diapers. In fact you should probably think about changing the Ute diapers now. It's
been two weeks.
@Chris from Rose Park"...why were there two pages of comments
at this article posted at 4:30 and not a single comment on a Ute article about
the bowl game posted at 6:30? Well Chris, that's a really good
question. Stay on here long enough and monitor enough stories and you will
quickly discover the answer you are seeking.In the end you will find
that there are simply more BYU 'fans' than Ute fans. Perhaps you can contact
someone at a 'resurch skool' to help validate that for you. I would.The sports program that has more national relevance is usually the one that
garners the most 'fans' for and against it. It also helps to have a 'religious
affiliation' that adds that welcomed 'lightening rod' effect to attract funny
commentary and critical analysis necessary for sports columns.I hope
this helps you in understanding the well documented disparity between BYU and
Ute stories on the DNews.It also must be pointed out that the
vulgarity well documented on the Trib site would explain why not too many BYU
fans comment over there. Over here things are a little more civil. Hope you
noticed the difference.
So hilarious yet predictable to see the regular BYU faces (Ducky) posting
comments about next years schedule that contradict everything they tear down
about Utah's schedule. There's not a shred of credibility left for you
guys, you've spoken out of both sides of your mouths far too many times.Cougfanintx -Nice try.San Jose St - Colorado +Notre
Dame - USC +GTech - Washington - even or Washington but not GTech.Everything else was accurate.
Go Cougars! Man we will totally win the national champs with this here schedule.
What is sad is all the meaningless banter on this blog! My dad can whip your
dad. Can not! Can too! So very childish! Grow up and get a life!
@MiPYou are probably correct about Hawaii but like I said there are
things that make a game with a team 'good' other than just the quality of the
team. Playing Hawaii is "good" for BYU for multiple reasons. One would
be a better recruiting presence in Hawaii which BYU needs. Another is just that
they have played each other for many years, it is something of a rivalry, and
that makes it a "good" game to schedule. I would actually compare it
to playing Utah St. which I consider a "good" game for some of the
same reasons.One of the things that some BYU fans and the obvious
utah trolls like howie don't understand is that you simply can't play Texas
followed by Alabama followed by Oklahoma followed by USC followed by Notre Dame
followed by Wisconsin followed by LSU followed by Boise St followed by Penn St,
followed by Nebraska followed by Stanford followed by Oklahoma st. No one can
play a schedule like that and survive it. Schedules need to have a
balance which is what most teams try to acheive. BYU just needs to upgrade the
bottom of the schedule and they are.
I thought the Cougies were slamming the U for playing Washington St., and now
they are embracing them as an opponent?I agree. Hypocrisy.
I think the schedule is getting better for BYU in the future, but it will always
have the November scheduling problems as most of the nation is in conference
play. The big teams in the big conferences will only want to schedule a
one-time home game or some neutral site game, or maybe a two-for-one. If BYU
wants to play up, they will have to schedule these teams, but I am kind of
thinking they don't want to since they have turned down a chance to play in a
BCS conference twice.I don't want to hear anything about the TV
deal--that is a lame excuse. BYU isn't close to declaring bankruptcy. They
don't need the money, and no team in the nation in a conference gets exclusive
rights to rebroadcast games. BYU prefers the money and to pick their own
schedule. They don't want to compete on a national stage--that's fine. It
would have been nice to see two BCS teams in state, but they made their
choice.Here's hoping Weber State (with Smith) can cover the spread
down in Provo next year, or pull off an upset! Have a great day everybody!
Luv 2 troll UWorks both ways. U guys say that BCS opponents are
stacked with 'superior athletes' and that the only way to a BCS bowl is through
a stronger SOS or AQ conference. So here's BYU scheduling a game with a BCS
opponent over a WAC one and you cry foul.Which is it? Competitive ability comes and goes but a BCS opponent is a BCS opponent,
right? Superior athletes?Oh, I forgot... you lost to Colorado. No
wonder you're confUsed.Who's hypocritical and commenting on a BYU
@Duckhunter"BYU just needs to upgrade the bottom of the
schedule..."***********Upgrade the bottom of the
schedule?With who? BYU's November schedule will always
feature the WAC and the MWC/CUSA. There are no other teams for BYU
to play in November because major conference teams are not going to interrupt
their November conference schedules to play BYU.BYU's scheduling is
what it is, and it isn't getting any better.Utah on the other hand
has perpetual home and home schedules with some of the most storied programs in
@howieI don't care about utah's schedule and am pretty sure it isn't
the subject of this thread. But since we're on the topic what was so great about
utah's November schedule this year? I don't remember them playing anyone all
that great and do remember them losing, at home, to one of the worst teams in
the country that month.But that said why is the Novemeber schedule
so much more important than any other month? Yes I realize utah trolls like
yourself have latched onto that talking point to try and use it as a way to bash
BYU but I really don't care what month they play who in. I care that
they play a balanced schedule with a couple of top name teams, several good
matchup type teams, a couple of "tune up" type games, a couple of
rivalry or local interest games and at least half of the more interesting games
at home. I don't care what month any of them are in.BYU is an
independent and as such what they do is going to be different than almost
everyone else. That is ok with me.
Howard, I am dissing the fact you think Utah has such a great bowl game. Did I
say anything about next year's schedule? Didn't think so. Fortunately for you,
of the five possible bowl opponents for Utah, Georgia Tech is the ONE you might
have a chance to beat.
Ute fans dissing BYU's schedule again...sigh....this really gets old. If the Ute
fans want a dose of reality...go on the national boards of college football and
read what fans from California to New York say about your team. And last but not
least always remember this one fact....You have a pair of former Cougars who
know alttle bit about putting together champions who coach your team. How ironic
is that. At least you love those two Cougars. Go ask Chow how irrelivant that
1984 National Championship team was.
Wow, WSU.. Is that exciting?? Again we will be taliking about the 2017
schedule...? Pretty weak, the Cougs should have staid put in the MWC instead of
making this mess.
17-14 Hurts DOESN'T It?Hypocrisy for commenting on a BYU story? The
door swings both ways by your definition:Utah basketball article:17-14 Hurts Don't It? | 11:59 a.m. Dec. 10, 2011 Springville,
UTBeatdown begins in 2 minutes. Can't wait to see this circus."Competitive ability comes and goes but a BCS opponent is a BCS opponent,
right? Superior athletes?Oh, I forgot... you lost to Colorado. No
wonder you're confUsed." (Never mentioned I was confused, check my comment
again before posting).Colorado is BCS opponent too, so it doesn't
matter what their record is.... right?It seems that Colorado is more
fitting for a rival than byu would ever be, 7-10 Utes in favor from the last 10
years?54-10 in LES? Rivalries shouldn't be called rivalries when the
record is 7-10, but rather called a "beat down of little brother".Why bring up Colorado? I didn't say anything about Colorado. I just
mentioned that BYU fans had a hay day telling us we beat WSU when they are a
"cupcake" and now BYU schedules a "great team" that goes by
the same name.Which is it?
@Duckhunter"But that said why is the Novemeber schedule so much
more important than any other month?"*************You
can't be serious, Mr. Duckhunter. Along with bowl season November is the most
critical month of the college football season.November is when
conference championships are determined. You may recall that Utah was in the
PAC 12 championship race until the last November game of the season. Conference
races create interest in college football.November is when rivalries
are played. I know you watched Utah play its new rival Colorado. You mention
that game more than any BYU game this year.So while November is the
month that most of college football is focused on conference races and rivalry
games, BYU is on the shelf playing meaningless WAC games and literally invisible
on rivalry weekend.So if you are okay with BYU being different, as
in irrelevant in November, then you and the collective Cougar Nation should be
very happy.As for balance, a few decent teams in September and the
cup cakes of the WAC in November is not balance.
@howieWell we'll just have to see how future schedules pan out but
it makes no difference to me what month a particular game is played in. Yes I
did watch utah play colorado, I enjoyed it very much. According to BYU's 2013
schedule they play Notre Dame in November and from what I hear the long term
series with Boise is supposed to be played in November after the 1st couple of
years. Hawaii in November is just fine as well. But really it doesn't matter to
me, it seems to matter a great deal more to utah trolls like yourself. But the
funny thing is that as "irrelevent" as BYU's November schedule
supposedly was they were still on ESPN for both games as well as the Hawaii game
which happened the 1st weekend of December. Seems like they still manage to get
on national tv somehow. Once again that works for me.
Who had a better year, Oklahoma State or Iowa State? According to a few ute
fans, Iowa state since they won the game between them, who cares about the
entire season. Yes, the beat down that byu got from utah was bad but if we go
by the entire season, byu had the better year. If you dont beleive me check your
precious bcs rankings that has byu at 32 and utah at 49. And for good measue,
tulsa, the bowl opponent that utah fans bash on are 40th, 9 spots ahead of utah.
@DuckhunterIt certainly seems that the Utah/Colorado game was more
satisfying for you than any Cougar victory this year. The interesting thing is
that your enjoyment of Utah/Colorado simply reinforces the irrelevance of BYUs
2011 schedule. But whatever... As for Notre Dame - When
you agree to a 4 for 2 deal, I guess they would agree to come to Provo in
November once in a while.As for Boise - Don't be so sure that the
Big East will release them from conference competition to play BYU in
November.As for Hawaii - November or December, it is still the
WAC.As for ESPN games in November - ESPN broadcasts of championship
poker and the national spelling bee still don't make those relevant events.The truth is that if a program is not relevant in November, it simply
can't be relevant at all.
joecoog,Numberwise, you're right.Just as Boise St can do
it, so can BYU. Play cupcakes and beat them to go undefeated a few times (BYU
still can't do this) and just wait for teams above you in rankings to lose. If
you go by strength of schedule, it's a different story.
Howard S. | 10:09 p.m. Dec. 9, 2011 "But whatever... Utah has a
date with Ga. Tech of the ACC in the Sun Bowl ($2.0 million payout)... BYU
has a date with... (I can't remember)... in the...(insert third tier bowl game
here).I'd rather be in Utah's position.... and so would the Cougar
Nation."Utah's $2.0M will be split amongst 12 Pac-12 Schools
after expenses are factored in. Utah fans need to be VERY grateful to Oregon
& Stanford, which secured 2 BCS bowl invites--one of them being the $17M
Rose Bowl. With the other bowl games factored in, the Pac-12's 7-team bowl
revenue pot will be $30M this year. Less $10M estimated for expenses (by the LA
Times), each team in the Pac-12 will be awarded $1.6M as their share of the bowl
revenue.BYU will get to keep all of it's bowl money after expenses
and all of it's TV revenue for this year--which puts BYU on top of Utah $$ wise
for the year in total. That will not be the case going forward once the Pac-12
TV deal kicks in and Utah becomes fully vested.
This article is all about B.Y.U's schedule and I don't see any mention of Utah's
PAC12 schedule. To all those trolls who trump their new found AQ status in the
PAC 12 that could very well change in 2014 if the BCS decides to eliminate AQ
status and only sponsor the National Championship. If that happens then the
only relevant teams to the BCS will be number 1 and number 2 which most likely
wont include Utah or my beloved Cougars.
@morganh"To all those trolls who trump their new found AQ
status in the PAC 12 that could very well change in 2014 if the BCS decides to
eliminate AQ status and only sponsor the National Championship. If that happens
then the only relevant teams to the BCS will be number 1 and number 2 which most
likely wont include Utah or my beloved Cougars".The elimination
of the AQ status will make things even worse for BYU as far as bowl games go. If
AQ status goes away, the 4 major BCS bowls (Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, and Rose)
will align themselves with their conference of choice. BYU can only play for the
bowl game they have contracts with. Utah can play for the Rose Bowl if they win
their conference. I'm not saying it will be easy! But, the Rose Bowl is what
Utah has going for them. If the BCS only controls the National Championship
Game. Utah would have a better shot at the title game due to their conference
affiliation, but they still would have to go undefeated. For BYU it will be a
lot harder due to SOS reasons (see Boise State).
gogetter,its not just me or cougar fans that are saying the cougs had a
better year. Its national voters. Look at the 3 major polls- the ap, coaches,
and harris. All three say the cougs had a better year and they dont just go by
won loss record although im sure that is part of it but they take into account
everything like how you won or loss regardless.Yes, byu had cup cakes on
their schedule but they beat them soundly. Of the non bowl teams (ie cupcakes)
they played they beat by an avg of 21.4 points. On the other hand utah beat non
bowl teams by an avg of 10.2 points and actually lost to one. It gets worse if
you look at how utah moved the ball against the worst teams they faced. In
those games utah avged 308.6 ypg and the opponents actually out gained them 350
ydg. That is why anyone that is not a utah fan will put byu ahead of utah this
year (once again look at all the polls)
Cool, this gives BYU a legitimate chance for more Pac-12 wins next year than
Utah will have.
"BYU's scheduling is what it is, and it isn't getting any better.Utah on the other hand has perpetual home and home schedules with some of the
most storied programs in collegiate history."First of all, I
guess you are right. I forgot that Howard knows more than Tom Holmoe. Tom
Holmoe's visions of good programs we have signed deals with (such as Notre Dame
and Texas) only exist in his mind. Thanks for setting us straight, Howard.As far as playing historically storied programs, I took a look at ESPN's
top 25 most prestigious programs. I noticed that Georgia Tech and Notre Dame,
whom BYU play next year, are listed there, along with some PAC opponents that
BYU has also recently played (and beat) such as UCLA and Washington. Let's not
forget Texas. However, props to Utah for having a home and home with a storied
program that BYU has not been able to schedule: BYU.
@howieYou know ute trolls like yourself continue to try and
propagate the lie that conferences won't let there teams play ooc after
September. Only one conference (the pac12) has that mandate and even then only
some of the schools in that conference are forced to live by that mandate.
Mainly the bottom feeders with no clout like utah. Stanford and USC both play
ooc in November but of course they are the big dogs and they get to make the
rules for the bottom feeders like utah and exempt themselves from them.But of course that doesn't apply to other conferences and none of the others,
not one, mandates that. As with most things you ute trolls post here it is
@Riverton CougarNeither Texas, Georgia Tech, UCLA, Washington, Utah,
nor any major conference team will play BYU in November. Don't believe me?
Look at the open dates on BYUs future schedules through 2015. Occasionally Notre Dame may concede to a November match up with BYU, but for
the most part BYU's November schedule will be filled with byes and WAC/MWC/CUSA
teams.A perpetually weak November schedule will prevent BYU from a
respectable schedule that will earn them anything more than a third tier bowl
game.It is what it is... Cougar fans... get used to it.
@Duckhunter"You know ute trolls like yourself continue to try
and propagate the lie that conferences won't let there teams play ooc after
September."*******************Okay Mr. Duckhunter, prove
me wrong. Please name one major conference team that has agreed to a
November matchup with BYU.Major conference teams simply will not
interrupt their November conference races and rivalry games to play BYU. Look
at the schedule.You are correct that Staford and USC will play
non-conference games in November... as long as the opponent is Notre Dame... but
BYU is certainly no Notre Dame.Weak November schedules = Collegiate
"Neither Texas, Georgia Tech, UCLA, Washington, Utah, nor any major
conference team will play BYU in November."Trust me, that it
more because of the conferences themselves. Utah would love to play BYU in
November (although they are extremely glad they didn't this year). You make it
sound as if nobody wants to play BYU. If so, it's because BYU is a good team
and they want an undefeated November; they aren't willing to risk that for some
out of conference opponent that they haven't established a rivalry with.
@Riverton Cougar"You make it sound as if nobody wants to play
BYU"**********The ACC, the Big East, the Big 12, and the
PAC 12 all play Notre Dame in November, they just don't want to play BYU in
November... its just not worth disrupting conference races and rivalry games to
play BYU.Since Mr. Duckhunter hasn't bothered to respond, I'll ask
Mr./Ms. Riverton Cougar to name one major conference team that has agreed to
play BYU in November.
Howard, your point is very shallow. You make it sound like teams not wanting to
interrupt conference play is somehow a slam on BYU. Conferences are making it
more difficult to schedule out of conference opponents in November, even for
rivalries (we're glad you notice Notre Dame being the exception, but they have a
lot more history than BYU does, so that's understandable). Besides, Georgia
Tech could very well be scheduled in November, as could Utah in future years;
Utah is the only team BYU has a long, current, and exciting rivalry with.Anyway, it's not like Utah could get a quality out of conference
opponent in November if they tried (besides BYU, that is). Tell me, what
quality out of conference opponents have they been able to line up, or get a
one-and-one deal with? Is Notre Dame coming to RES? No? What about Texas?
@Riverton CougarFor clarification Riverton, Georgia Tech/BYU is
already scheduled for October.Beyond that, the point is that BYU
will never have a quality schedule as an independent because its November
schedule will always be comprised of byes and WAC/MWC/CUSA competition. Oh, and one more thing... Utah doesn't need out of conference games in
November because we already have a full schedule of games with BCS teams on a