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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 7 2011 11:04 p.m. MST

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chubbuckidahocougfan
Chubbuck, Idaho

This is just laughable. Part of the reason I chose to no longer attend BYU-I was this self-proclaimed self righteousness by the Testing Center at this university. The other main reason is because I wanted to be closer to home so I decided to attend Idaho State Univ. instead.

There were two seperate incidents when I went into the testing center and got sent home. Both times were because I had a 5 o'clock shadow or so they said. I hadn't shaved in about 18 hours or so and I was refused the opportunity to take a test and had to return home. I don't hold any grudges and really could care less but sending people home for frivolous things and posting "stupid" signs in the testing center do more damage than any good it is supposed to do. Infact it's offensive to turn people away for having a 5 oclock shadow or wearing tight fitting jeans. Let them take the test and let the Savior judge. Do you think the SAvior turns people away from the atonement because they have 5 o'clock shadows or wear tight fitting jeans. come on!

Jallgood
SEATTLE, WA

I read about this on Gawker and was surprised at the number of people there who both understood the dress code and expressed surprise that the student would take exception to this enforcement. That said, now that I have read both the sign that was posted and read the testing center managers response, I am going to side on this "ban" being completly overboard and self righteous.

MormonDem
Provo, UT

You know, one talk from the conference center pulpit encouraging members of the Church to not be self-righteous and overzealous and Pharisaical would do more PR good than a million dollars worth of "I'm a Mormon" ads.

Johnny Moser
Thayne, WY

I would, have, and do pay for my kids to attend all of the BYU affiliate locations. I have an EXTREMELY difficult time with the differences in the acceptable standards at these universities. What is OK at Provo is not OK in Rexburg and what is OK in Laie is absolutely not acceptable at Rexburg or Provo. The HONOR CODE and DRESS Code are based on the EXACT same documents. HOW can the acceptable standards for dress be so different? Is the shape of the legs in Provo any less shapely than they are in Rexburg? And in Laie there really isn't much doubt as to their shape as "long" shorts are acceptable. The Board of Directors should create a committee to standardize ALL LDS affiliated universities. Get control of these renegade employees. I HATED the Testing Center experience, I felt more violated there than anywhere on or off campus. Abolish the testing center. Let the folks that run it find someplace else to work; where they can force their version and meaning of the Honor Code and Dress Code onto the student body. I recommend either the snow removal teams or the swimsuit issue room.

Chris from Rose Park
PROVO, UT

Does anybody know why the honor code at BYU-I and BYU-Provo are different? They are not vastly different but they are different and the enforcement, from this article, appears to be different. I don't think the testing center in Provo would be able to do this. The curfews are also different.

Are the rules and their enforcement different because of different University Presidents? On a mission the rules and their interpretation are often left up to the mission presidents (i.e. what is Sacrament Meeting appropriate music. My two mission presidents allowed different music and had different ways of judging if it was appropriate)?

bradleyc
Layton, UT

This is crazy! I love BYU and all that it stands for but come on people. Skinny Jeans. Really? What I want to know is did they elicit immoral thoughts for the person who was working at the testing center that day? IF they did then he/she had better watch his or her thoughts.

TexasGirlAUte
Draper, UT

@chubbuckidahocougfan

"Do you think the SAvior turns people away from the atonement because they have 5 o'clock shadows or wear tight fitting jeans. come on!"

Amen Brother! I couldn't agree with you more.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

There was a woman that was pregnant and didn't have much in maternity clothes. She went to the testing center with the one item of clothing that fit her. She was turned away, because she was told it didn't meet the standard. She is pregnant and uncomfortable already and couldn't afford to buy clothes. Seems ridiculous that some student at a desk has the ability to judge in the Saviors place, what is appropriate and what isn't.

I wonder how anyone in a third world country could attend the school. Most people wear flip flops or go barefoot. Is God going to punish them for being poor? I doubt it.

Aggielove
Junction city, Oregon

Odd rule.
But very ugly jeans also.

Timp
South Jordan, UT

Wow. Just wow. Is BYU-I located in Colorado City?? Because that is definitely a form of religious fanaticism.

RBN
Salt Lake City, UT

"We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion."

Hopefully, the administration has had a chat with the testing center director.

LookingatUtah
Idaho Falls, ID

I operate a college testing center at a public school. I remember the day when I told a lady she would need to wait a few minutes to take her test until a computer opened up that would not place her in close proximity to another examinee. She had fragrance that was extremely strong and I felt that it could be a potential distraction to others nearby, especially if they had any level of allergies. She demanded to know who my supervisor was and that she had never had anybody tell her that she "smelled." I marched her right in to meet with him after I explained what had taken place. By the time she had filled his office with her aroma, a seat opened that I could place her at.

Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

@chubbuckidahocougfan

Leviticus 19:27 clearly states that men should not cut their hair or trim their beards. I would have mentioned that at the Testing Center.

Honor Code
Denver, Colorado

If BYU is going to enforce their "Dress Code" and "Grooming Code" perhaps all LDS schools should adhere to the same rule?

I get a chuckle when I see Riley Nelson (BYU's QB) with long hair and all the players that sport tattoo's these days. Just sayin!

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Not surprised by this story.

My son has extremely sensitive, fair skin and dark hair. He was turned away from the cafeteria on his first day of school as a freshman at BYU Provo being told he needed to go shave. He had shaved the evening before. Of course, he didn't have time to shave and eat so went without breakfast. Welcome to BYU!

Having grown up in UT I chose not to attend BYU so as not to be subjected to the zealous "letter-of-the-law" people which seem to abound there.

a serious man
Rexburg, ID

The Testing Center has caused more bad feelings and embarrassment over these issues than any entity on campus. I think the administration has liked it, in the past, that the Testing Center has done the "dirty work" of dress code enforcement, but now they are reaping the whirlwind of bad publicity. These silly issues do a lot of PR damage, for the school and the church. Testing Center management needs a good talking to, or perhaps a reassignment.

Anita
Sandy, UT

My favorite BYU testing center story along these lines was my mom's roommate in the 1970s, back when women had to wear dresses--she showed up to take a test in pants and a long coat. The staff refused to let her in, so she went to a bathroom and removed the pants, and then she was allowed in to take the test in her coat alone. More modest, for sure.

XelaDave
Salem, UT

So if the testing center already has the answer then why council someone to go and ask- oh right so they can get their own witness of something already decided- this is what we have come to- what a sad commentary- three days to remove the sign- some admin. was asleep I would say

washcomom
Beaverton, OR

There's the letter of the law, and the spirit of the law. When people comply with the spirit of the law, the letter of the law will follow. Then there are those that are claiming to be the fashion police on campus. I'm sure there are worse fashion crimes than skinny jeans in the testing center.

Look at it this way - there is no way of smuggling in notes to cheat with if they were wearing skinny jeans.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

As former student at BYU never wear something that might offend testing center staffs but can get away from it at regular classes. Good grief, last year was about Brandon Davies and now BYU-I. Don't you love those outsiders medias! Lol!

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