@Hunt, Mr Lee is seeking to start a super pac so he can circumvent federal
election laws. With representation like that we will soon all be standing on a
street corner begging.
To VIDAR | 4:23 p.m. Dec. 6, 2011 Murray, UT Hunt | 1:58 p.m. Dec.
6, 2011 But what exactly has Mike Lee done for Utah that was so
great? --------------------------------The answer to
that is simple -- absolutely nothing good.
Jared, your wrong!! Hatch has been in washington for over thirty years. In that
time we have gone bankrupt, and the GOP hatch's party has never done anything of
consequence. They have bankrupted us, started unnessesary wars, ruined the
financial, and housing markets, and made life worse for most americans. You
think if we get rid of hatch we'll miss our chance,,, for what?? He's had his
chance to do something, anything constructive, and he has failed. For 30 years
he has failed. This red state doesnt have sense enough to get rid of him, or if
they did, they would replace him with someone like Lee, Or Wimmer. God help us
@ Hunt what exactly has Mike Lee done? I want to know
"These people seem to think the answer to this ancient question is that
government should be inexperienced."Government should be
representative of the people and experience isn't the main point of
representative government instead our founding fathers didn't envision Congress
to be a permanent class of rulers and understood that the people would need to
be accountable to the people. They did not see legislators as a special class of
people endowed with special knowledge or abilities. An elitist
mentality that only the "experienced" are qualified to lead ignores
the very basis of our country which is that we are ruled by the people. Common
men and common women can one day be working their jobs and within a year become
a Representative, Senator or President. Our founding fathers could have easily
created a system where experienced governed but did not.They could
have stated that "The President shall have served in the federal government
for at least 14 years and Senators shall have been at least nine years a
Representative and Representatives shall have served at least seven years as
state officials" but didn't because experience is secondary to the idea
that any American is qualified to represent
Hunt | 1:58 p.m. Dec. 6, 2011 What has Mike Lee done for Utah?I Know Hatch got him some committee assignments, that he would not have
gotten, without Hatch.But what exactly has Mike Lee done for Utah that was
The first question that should be asked is "Does Senator Hatch represent my
interests?" More times then not the answer to this question, for me, has
been no.I care not for seniority if the person with seniority has shown to
not have my best interests in mind.Mike Lee, whether you agree with him or
not, is a great example of a Senator with no seniority who has proven to be very
influential in representing what he feels are Utah interests.
Corporations are not people, money is not speech. Hatch disagrees. He continues
along with Mr Lee to subscribe to the philosophy of corporate subjugation
of the middle class. His age is no factor. p.s. Who cares what Michelle Malkin
The letter writer is starting to look like the Lone Ranger with his viewpoint.
He has had 36 years and we see where we are now. Based on where we are now is
more of the same really a viable option?
The Real Maverick | 9:27 a.m. Dec. 6, 2011 Who can we send that will
serve the people?How can the american people compete with corporations?Corporations donate billions of dollars, they take the reps on trips around
the world, and "other" perks we know nothing about.We send
someone to Washington, and the minute they arrive, they become LEGAL inside
traders. Anyone else would go straight to Jail!For these guys, who
pass the laws ,and then exempt themselves; it is legal to write a law, and then
buy stock in a company that will incease in value due to the law, BEFORE the law
is passed.look no futher then Mike Lee, the golden poster boy of the tea
party: he is not happy with normal business as usual: he wants to step it up,
and form SUPER PACS. According to him, the money just ain't flowing in fast
enough. We need to "step up" the corporate donations, to higher
levels then have ever been seen before.Republicans-Democrates they are
both involved.So I ask again: who can we send that will turn down the
corporate "donations" and serve only the people?
Who does Mr. Hatch serve? True Americans or corporations? I'm sorry, but
corporations are not people. Until repubs understand this basic concept, they'll
never have my vote.Mr. Hatch, you cannot serve 2 masters. You cannot
serve your rich special interests and your everyday Joe-Sixpacks at the same
Sorry to "burst your bubble" Utah again, but, Sen. Orrin Hatch, Bob
Bennett and Sen. Mike Lee is "NOT" the proper role of a true
government.They remind me of this.The US Senate is doing
its first-ever Secret Santa gift exchange this year. Yeah, there's a $10
spending limit, but they plan to go $14 trillion over budget.Also
this to.The good news is, the unemployment rate has dropped to 8.6
percent. The bad news is, most of those require a sack, a red suit, and a beard.
All while American's rot.Thanks to their Koch Brother's
friends, to much Pork and Earmarks, and friend's on K Street.I told
you I would tell you the truth.I didn't say you would like it.It's time again, to "start over", come 2012.Let's
see if the People can do better around this time, with true term limits also.
Put all these "Senior senators" out to pasture, where they
belong.That's my truthful views.Like them, or not.That's up to you.Merry Christmas.Happy New Year.
Who are the republicans in Utah going to send to replace him. It seems whoever
we send we get the same old thing.Look at Mike Lee; has not been there for
even one term, and already he is talking about "super pacs"Until
there is national term limits for senators, it is not in Utahs interest to get
rid of our reining senior senate represenative.For small states like Utah,
the only way to protect ourselves is to elect a senator and leave him there.Whoever we send I expect will ingrain themselves into normal national
politics.If we do elect a different senator, it would be in our interest
to send a democrat senator; it would make us more equal to have one on both
sides.And to Mike Richards I would like to know what he means by uphold
the constitution; in what way has Hatch not upheld the constitution?
Republicans like to talk about the constitution, and how much they love it; my
guess most of them have never read it, and few actually understand it in
anyway.The constitution is constantly changing, and is not written in
stone. It is a guide, not scripture.
Senator Hatch has had plenty of time to correct our problems. His voting record
shows that he is part of the problems. We don't gain anything by keeping this
senior senator in office. It is far past time to vote Senator Hatch out. He
just doesn't do his job. He has had plenty of opportunities, and he failed.
Out he goes.
Memo to Rowley: Every Senator, whether it's Hatch or his replacement, gets one
vote only. Hatch setting the agenda for the Senate Finance Committee is
over-rated. Hatch will be 78 years old on election day 2012. Asking Utahns for a
seventh term is simply a bridge too far. The only question that remains in my
mind is who will step up to replace him. Whoever emerges from the Republican
ranks has my vote. Hatch is not irreplaceable except in his own mind.
Hatch sure knows what he's doing. He's pandering to the faaaaaarrrrrr Right
Wing of the Republican party just to keep his job. Jared, if Hatch
hadn't campaigned against Moss saying that he'd been in Washington too long
already, then maybe, just maybe I could agree with you. But it is the ultimate
hypocrisy for Hatch, who has already been in longer than Moss was, to say
"Keep me, I have experience here".
In August of this year, noted conservative Michelle Malkin had this to say about
Senator Hatch, "Orrin Hatch is the antithesis of the Tea Party spirit. He
is a mascot for big-spending Beltway entrenched incumbency who has consistently
joined hands with destructive Democrats."He slobbered over
corruptocrat Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd."He co-sponsored the $6
billion national service boondoggle and dedicated it to his good friend Teddy
Kennedy, with whom he also joined hands to create the ever-expanding SCHIP
entitlement."He supported tax cheat Treasury Secretary Tim
Geithner from day one, ... and embraced and defended Attorney General Eric
Holders nomination because, he said, I like Barack Obama and I want to help him
if I can."He was an original sponsor of the open-borders DREAM
Act illegal alien student bailout and voted for the massive TARP bailout."How do real Tea Party people feel about Tea Party pretender Orrin
Hatch?"The same way they feel about his former big-spending
entrenched incumbent in Utah former Sen. Bob Bennett who got the boot in
May."I guess I"m just saying that there is division
amongst Republicans. Go figure?
Are we better off today than we were thirty-years ago?That is the
question that we need to ask. Mr. Hatch has represented the State of Utah for
half of my life. He is still making the same campaign promises that he made
when he started. Either he is incapable of getting the job done, or he doesn't
yet know how to do his job.What is the job of a Senator? The first
and most important duty is to uphold the Constitution. He has NOT done that.
Look at his voting record and see how many times he put expedience over duty.He may have seniority, but he still doesn't know the basic duty of every
Senator.It's time for him to come home and live among the people.