Do we need skills and leadership from someone who blasts big business than takes
money from them?"MICHAEL MOORE, ON CNN: Well, "The
Washington post" three weeks ago had this investigation and they said that
President Obama has now raised more money from Wall Street and the banks for
this election cycle than all -- than all eight Republicans combined. I don't
want to say that, because if that's the truth, that Wall Street already has
their man and his name is Barack Obama, then we've got a much bigger
problem."What happened to Obamas law certificate?
As an outsider (non-American) it is baffling to see the surge in Mr Gingrich's
republican support. Do the voters not realize that his nomination would seal
President Obama's re election? A man who captured the dreams and hopes of not
only your nation but indeeed of the entire world (including myself) only to
deliver NOTHING in almost every aspect. However in a general election President
Obama would be a moral giant in comaparison to Newt Gingrich, a man with such
appalling lack of character that was investigated and fined by his own
government for unethical behaviour, who as a matter of public record is kown to
have cheated on his first two wives, who attacked a sitting president for
inmoral behaviour while he himself was having an affair! Who was raised a
Lutheran , converted to born again Christian and then became a Catholic jumping
from creed to creed with his wife d'jour. Please America have more respect for
your great Nation! A more sensible choice is by far Gorvernor Mitt Romney
(although his No Apologies rhetoric is offensive to non americans) His values,
his record his loyalty to family, faith and nation make him the only credible
What I find totally appalling is the level of total ignorance and anti-Mitt
baloney rampant on this site. So many have done no homework on Romney but
instead have bought into the media heads. Do your own research people. Does it
mean ANYTHING at all that the polls have been saying for months that Mitt has
the only chance of giving the boot to the current far left socialist in the oval
office? Mitt is not far right on social policy but then NO G.O.P. who is far
right will even win the 2012 election. Can anyone even find a baggage car large
enough to handle all of Newt's baggage? Dems are attacking Mitt. WHY??? Mitt
is who they really fear.
Both Governor Huntsman and SLOC chairman Romney provided exeplary leadership and
service in Utah. But Romney has what we need to save our country from
Utter Nonsense,Amen, brother.Pass me a can of gas so we
can stoke the flames!
It doesn't really matter who we elect. We are going to get a flip/flopper. So
do you want the one with all the business experience? Do you want the one who
flip/flopped on two of his marriages? Or do you want to keep the status quo and
keep wallowing in the unemployment/stagnate economy mire? (And no, you cannot
pick Ron Paul. That's not going to happen.)
@Scotwright "He has allowed Massachusetts to have their
"Health Care" law because that is what they wanted"If
that is what you believe then how is that showing any type of leadership? You
basically want a president who gives people what they want. "Many of our folks are calling Mitt a "Flip-flopper" without
any credible evidence of this."Plenty of evidence, go look it
up."He has changed his mind and got on the right side of almost
every issue."In one statement, you say there is no evidence
that he flip flopped and now you say he just "changed his mind". Abortion, gun control, gay rights, universal health care, amnesty.....
isn't popular with Republicans outside of Massachusetts, I change my mind!!!
Look guys I am on the right side of every issue now...Vote me for me!!!!!!!
wastintime,So we agree he turned a deficit around? it was a 1.2 billion
deficit when he took office, but it was projected to be 2 to 3 billion by end of
his first FY. I will agree with you for arguments sake. However, Taking 1.2
Billion and ending with close to 600,000 surplus is good business. 500 million
did come from fees. the majority of the other 1 billion+ came from giving less
to local governments and letting them support themselves (cutting the fat). You
cant keep spending what you do not have. and just like a real budget you can't
buy everything you want if you don't have the money. again, he turned around a
deficit and MA did not suffer from his changes.
Mitt Romney is NOT perfect, but his CEO style of leadership is what we need.
When he says he will turn this country around you can believe him. Many of our
folks are calling Mitt a "Flip-flopper" without any credible evidence
of this. He has changed his mind and got on the right side of almost every
issue. He has allowed Massachusetts to have their "Health Care" law
because that is what they wanted. America does not want universal insurance as
forced upon us under Obamacare. Give me a man who wants to do the right things
and I will support him. Give me a WANNABEE dictator like Obama, an old
politician like Newt, or a nutcase like Paul and I will see him defeated. Mitt
Romney is the Best Man Ever to Run for President and he will be elected if
America wakes up and puts up the good fight. God Bless America
Re:Badger55Romney claims that he didnt raise taxes when governor of
Massachusetts and that he faced a $3 billion budget shortfall. Romney in fact
increased "fees" by around $500 million during his four years as
governor. Romneys cuts in local aid also led indirectly to local tax increases
(mainly in the form of property tax increases). Similarly, Romneys claim to have
closed a $3 billion budget gap is exaggerated. In fact, the gap was closer to
$1.2 billion.Source: FactCheck
say what you want, but if you do some research you will find that Romney has
lead government before and took MA from deficit to surplus. sounds like that's
what we need. what credentials did Obama have before becoming president?
Sorry can't read pagan any more - just skip through all his posts. Funny he used
his 3 - the first 3 and now he can't respond. Huntsman, as the article
says likes to surround himself with professors and let them do the work. Oh
dear don't we have 35 professorial czars in the white house now, costing untold
amounts and making decisions that have gotten us into this mess?No thanks
Mr Huntsman we already have that. Take a look at the glowing letter he sent to
obama to get the job as ambassador. Sorry, I know about what Romney did
for the Olympics and it was a miracle after the mess it was in. Romney was
not my first choice but Rubio didn't run, so I hope he is Romney's VP.
o DRay | 9:02 a.m. Dec. 4, 2011 You'll reject the diplomat in favor
of the guy who, while working for Bain Capital, harmed a LOT of "little
guys"? No thanks, as far as I'm concerned.
Wow, I am amazed how liberal UT has become. Huntsman, a RINO at best. Romney is
McCain lite, and McCain is Obama light. One does not get to be governor of Mass.
without being a liberal at heart. With all the media such an enemy of
Republicans, if the press had been able to find the "conservative" in
Mit, they would have exploited it in the gubernatorial election.Oh,
btw, Pagan, such venom! Who WOULD you vote for, besides your man, Obama?
Romney a leader? And which direction is he going to lead, the flip or the flop
I'm surprised more Utahans aren't supporting Huntsman over Romney. Many of my
fellow Mormons are not willing to even consider him because he's distanced
himself from being a true believing Mormon. I like that Huntsman is honest
about his unorthodox beliefs while still calling himself a Mormon. I also
respect Mitt for staying true to his orthodoxy. At first glance, Mitt seems
like more of a hot head while Jon is gracious and kind...but whatever. This
article's attempt at highlighting the different "styles" of both men
seems more like an attempt to make Mitt Romney appear the clear choice.
What I find so funny is that when Governor Huntsman (remember - he used to be
Utah's governor), he had approval ratings in the 80% range. He is
now treated by Utahns as a pariah. A former governor from a state "back
east" is more popular. Proof of that is that the Deseret News can't give
Mitt Romney any more page space - there isn't any left!
@Pagan:It takes a lot less space to just say:You don't
like Romney.You love Obama.We have long since got your
I don't think you can call Romney a leader (at least in politics). It's not
leading when you change your opinion like you change socks for political
convenience. It's called pandering.@A1994, let me respectfully
disagree with you about Huntsman. I don't like him because he distanced himself
from his religion (I understand his line about being spiritual vs religious--you
don't have to publicize piousness like the pharisees did or most GOP candidates
do). I like him because he sticks to his beliefs about climate change, believes
that the upper brackets can contribute more, and isn't pompous like Newt. We
need someone who is willing to compromise and work with the other party and not
hold everything up--it only takes on senator to put the entire nation on hold,
it requires give and take on both sides.Even though I don't agree
with him on many economic issues, I think I could vote for him over Obama.
Romney is qualified, but will say anything to get elected, and the rest of the
primary field, is laughable to say the least. I can't believe the GOP is going
to do itself in by nominating Newt--HA!
As the Bible says, there is a time and a season for all things. Huntsman seems
like a very good diplomat and a nice guy. Romney seems like he isn't afraid to
kick some you-know-what and offend some people. Right now we need the
latter...badly. Huntsman reminds me of the kids in college who were
running for office. They were friendly with everyone around election time, but
not necessarily friends with anyone. Huntsman has publicly distanced himself
from his religion, which (let's just call a spade a spade) is why lefties in
Utah love him. He is lukewarm. Most people don't respond to lukewarm, hence
the dismal poll numbers. Huntsman needs to stick to diplomatic positions. He's
not presidential material.I think Romney will survive the Gingrich
onslaught. There are too many clips of Newt saying things for him to last. Go
take a look at Ron Paul's new ad.
Huntsman isn't touting the pro-war, pro-torture line that Romney is. When will
we learn that to be conservative means to resist war strongly, which used to be
the republican party ideal 20-30 ago? Why did the republicans switch sides with
the democrats with war?How can someone reconcile the idea that our
country is bankrupt and the #1 biggest expense is oversea military spending?
Republicans want to cut spending, but aren't willing to touch the 4 trillion
dollar wars pure hypocrisy to me. Saying our deficit is now 15 trillion,
unnecessary wars has been the biggest contribution to our economic failure.The Constitution doesn't give us the authority to run the world, nor to
be the world police! Go research the CIA term "blowback", and you will
understand why our current foreign policy is America's eventual end. Not only
does it create enemies, but it bankrupts our children.Utah! Open
I'll take the CEO over the diplomat every time in the current U.S.
situation...we need a strong hand that is courageous enough to do what needs to
be done to turn this country around...that is Mitt Romney! End of discussion.
As between Romney and Huntsman, only Huntsman is a decent candidate for
Presidsent. Romney isn't worth (Boston baked) beans.
When a person studies and defines past executive abilities and leadership skills
there is really only "1" candidtate in this race of now 7, and that is
Jon Huntsman. Mitt Romney being a savior of the Utah olympics? Give me a
break please, the hundreds of volunteers and staff remaining after the greedy,
lazy former heads were let go were the real people that saved our bacon in the
olympics, not "flopper Mitt". As for the Bain thing, where did the
cash come from to start this Co.? Daddy of course and that is the extent of his
CEO background. On the other hand one just needs to look at what & how
the 2 individuals left their respective states after leaving as govenor. How are
things in Utah citizens compared to the rest of the nation today? How is Mass
doing in comparison? That should answer all questions as to which one is more
qualified to be the commander in chief of our country today! I'm a life
long former democrat(now independent) and Jon will get my vote providing the
radical right wises up and votes him into the nomination.
Having dealt with both Romney and Huntsman - I'd back Huntsman. Romney has a
tendency to run over people and force issues, sometimes turning people off and
pushing them away. Huntsman has an incredible ability to get diverse groups of
people to work together. He brings out in others compromise and civility. If
we want a president who can cross the political aisle (like Reagan did) and
bring down the current level of vitriol and divisiveness in this country, it's
Romney is a real leader. Jon Huntsman is not. That is the essential difference
between the two.
I never thought I would say this so early on but Romney is finished. He's toast.
His campaign looked unassailable a few weeks ago (albeit stuck under 25%), but
somehow he has disappeared. He has run his second campaign more cautiously than
the first. He has been bereft of ideas - real break-through thinking on any
topic. I always thought he would be the turnaround guy, but he has yet to
articulate how he would reform the broken down US government. We have only heard
platitudes and generalities from the man. Very sad. And Huntsman has
even less of a chance. He should have stayed in China.
Great insights to these two great leaders. This had been tough week for Mit but
whoever comes out of the Primary gets my vote.
While business credentials is a good quality for a president, you shouldn't
approach the office completely through the lens of a CEO. There are a lot of
things in addition to the bottom line to consider, namely that every decision
you make affects real people. A president should be a consensus builder who can
make a quick decision when he needs to. Also, a president is not just the
nation's chief executive, he's the Commander-in-Chief. I can't think of any
candidate more in-tune with world affairs than Huntsman. He has both the foreign
policy and executive credentials to lead the country in this increasingly
Pagan: Is there anything, or anyone, that you are for and support? You only
post negatives about people and what they do, have done, or propose to do.
To really get to know Newt Gingrich you need to read an article on him in the
September 2010 issue of Esquire Magazine. His second wife, Marianne, gives some
real insights into his life.
*'Romney campaign battles Dems, Press over issue of transparency' - By Barrett
Haake - NBC News - 11/17/11 'There it was this morning, on the front
page of the Boston Globe, a headline no campaign ever wants to read: Before
leaving office, Romney staff wiped records.' *'Mitt Romney raises
$18.25 million, but Republicans worry it might not be enough' - By Jamshid Ghazi
Askar - DSNews - 07/07/11 *Firm dissolves after giving pro-Romney
PAC $1 million' - By Ken Thomas - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/04/11 7 days later.... *Mitt Romney: Corporations are people...my
friend - By Phillip Elliot - AP - Published by DSNews 08/11/11
How about on the jobs: *'Mitt Romney as job creator clashes with
Bain record of job cuts' - By Lisa Lerer, Bloomberg News - Published by DSNews -
07/20/11 'Employees who lost jobs at Bain-controlled companies more
than a decade ago say they still hold Romney responsible."I would not
vote for him for anything," said Phyllis Detro, 68, who lost her job...' Or: *'Let Detroit Go Bankrupt' - By Mitt Romney - NY Times
- 11/18/08 Estimated result? *'How Many Jobs Depend on
the Big Three?' - By CATHERINE RAMPELL - NY Times - 11/17/08 'In
both cases, there would be major short-term shocks to employment; depending on
which scenario you use, a contraction of the Detroit Three would result in
direct and indirect job losses of 2.5 million to 3 million in 2009.'
3 million American jobs.... lost.
*Mitt Romneys wealth raises new questions By Jamshid Ghazi Askar DSNews
08/15/11 'Romney owns between $250,000 and $500,000 in horses.' Then: *'Romney campaign battles Dems, Press over issue of
transparency' - By Barrett Haake - NBC News - 11/17/11 'There it was
this morning, on the front page of the Boston Globe, a headline no campaign ever
wants to read: Before leaving office, Romney staff wiped records.'
Romney: *'Mitt Romney steers clear of Ohio health, union issues' -
By Dan Sewell - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/25/11 Then: *'Mitt Romney reverses himself, supports anti-union law' - By Philip Elliott
- AP - Published by DSNews - 10/26/11 'FAIRFAX, Va. A day after he
refused to endorse an Ohio ballot measure that limits public employee union
rights, Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said Wednesday that he is
"110 percent" behind the effort.' Zero to 110% in 24
hours. Also: *'Mitt Romney pledges opposition to gay
marriage' - CBS News - 08/04/11 Then: 'It's also notable
because Romney was not always such a strong opponent of gay rights. In 1994, he
sent a letter to a gay Republican group saying he would be a stronger advocate
for gay rights...' - Same Article