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Romney and Huntsman have differing leadership styles

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  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 3, 2011 8:45 p.m.

    Romney:

    *'Mitt Romney steers clear of Ohio health, union issues' - By Dan Sewell - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/25/11

    Then:

    *'Mitt Romney reverses himself, supports anti-union law' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/26/11

    'FAIRFAX, Va. A day after he refused to endorse an Ohio ballot measure that limits public employee union rights, Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said Wednesday that he is "110 percent" behind the effort.'

    Zero to 110% in 24 hours.

    Also:

    *'Mitt Romney pledges opposition to gay marriage' - CBS News - 08/04/11

    Then:

    'It's also notable because Romney was not always such a strong opponent of gay rights. In 1994, he sent a letter to a gay Republican group saying he would be a stronger advocate for gay rights...' - Same Article

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 3, 2011 8:46 p.m.

    *Mitt Romneys wealth raises new questions By Jamshid Ghazi Askar DSNews 08/15/11

    'Romney owns between $250,000 and $500,000 in horses.'

    Then:

    *'Romney campaign battles Dems, Press over issue of transparency' - By Barrett Haake - NBC News - 11/17/11

    'There it was this morning, on the front page of the Boston Globe, a headline no campaign ever wants to read: Before leaving office, Romney staff wiped records.'

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 3, 2011 8:48 p.m.

    How about on the jobs:

    *'Mitt Romney as job creator clashes with Bain record of job cuts' - By Lisa Lerer, Bloomberg News - Published by DSNews - 07/20/11

    'Employees who lost jobs at Bain-controlled companies more than a decade ago say they still hold Romney responsible.
    "I would not vote for him for anything," said Phyllis Detro, 68, who lost her job...'

    Or:

    *'Let Detroit Go Bankrupt' - By Mitt Romney - NY Times - 11/18/08

    Estimated result?

    *'How Many Jobs Depend on the Big Three?' - By CATHERINE RAMPELL - NY Times - 11/17/08

    'In both cases, there would be major short-term shocks to employment; depending on which scenario you use, a contraction of the Detroit Three would result in direct and indirect job losses of 2.5 million to 3 million in 2009.'

    3 million American jobs....

    lost.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 3, 2011 8:50 p.m.

    *'Romney campaign battles Dems, Press over issue of transparency' - By Barrett Haake - NBC News - 11/17/11

    'There it was this morning, on the front page of the Boston Globe, a headline no campaign ever wants to read: Before leaving office, Romney staff wiped records.'

    *'Mitt Romney raises $18.25 million, but Republicans worry it might not be enough' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar - DSNews - 07/07/11

    *Firm dissolves after giving pro-Romney PAC $1 million' - By Ken Thomas - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/04/11

    7 days later....

    *Mitt Romney: Corporations are people...my friend - By Phillip Elliot - AP - Published by DSNews 08/11/11

  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 3, 2011 9:07 p.m.

    To really get to know Newt Gingrich you need to read an article on him in the September 2010 issue of Esquire Magazine. His second wife, Marianne, gives some real insights into his life.

  • kanaka818 West Hills, CA
    Dec. 3, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    Pagan: Is there anything, or anyone, that you are for and support? You only post negatives about people and what they do, have done, or propose to do.

  • jdfish NORTH EASTON, MA
    Dec. 3, 2011 11:14 p.m.

    While business credentials is a good quality for a president, you shouldn't approach the office completely through the lens of a CEO. There are a lot of things in addition to the bottom line to consider, namely that every decision you make affects real people. A president should be a consensus builder who can make a quick decision when he needs to. Also, a president is not just the nation's chief executive, he's the Commander-in-Chief. I can't think of any candidate more in-tune with world affairs than Huntsman. He has both the foreign policy and executive credentials to lead the country in this increasingly globalized economy.

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 3, 2011 11:52 p.m.

    Great insights to these two great leaders. This had been tough week for Mit but whoever comes out of the Primary gets my vote.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 4, 2011 5:10 a.m.

    I never thought I would say this so early on but Romney is finished. He's toast. His campaign looked unassailable a few weeks ago (albeit stuck under 25%), but somehow he has disappeared. He has run his second campaign more cautiously than the first. He has been bereft of ideas - real break-through thinking on any topic. I always thought he would be the turnaround guy, but he has yet to articulate how he would reform the broken down US government. We have only heard platitudes and generalities from the man. Very sad.

    And Huntsman has even less of a chance. He should have stayed in China.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 5:36 a.m.

    Romney is a real leader. Jon Huntsman is not. That is the essential difference between the two.

  • UTAH Bill Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 6:19 a.m.

    Having dealt with both Romney and Huntsman - I'd back Huntsman. Romney has a tendency to run over people and force issues, sometimes turning people off and pushing them away. Huntsman has an incredible ability to get diverse groups of people to work together. He brings out in others compromise and civility. If we want a president who can cross the political aisle (like Reagan did) and bring down the current level of vitriol and divisiveness in this country, it's Huntsman.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:08 a.m.

    When a person studies and defines past executive abilities and leadership skills there is really only "1" candidtate in this race of now 7, and that is Jon Huntsman.
    Mitt Romney being a savior of the Utah olympics? Give me a break please, the hundreds of volunteers and staff remaining after the greedy, lazy former heads were let go were the real people that saved our bacon in the olympics, not "flopper Mitt". As for the Bain thing, where did the cash come from to start this Co.? Daddy of course and that is the extent of his CEO background.
    On the other hand one just needs to look at what & how the 2 individuals left their respective states after leaving as govenor. How are things in Utah citizens compared to the rest of the nation today? How is Mass doing in comparison? That should answer all questions as to which one is more qualified to be the commander in chief of our country today!
    I'm a life long former democrat(now independent) and Jon will get my vote providing the radical right wises up and votes him into the nomination.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:37 a.m.

    As between Romney and Huntsman, only Huntsman is a decent candidate for Presidsent. Romney isn't worth (Boston baked) beans.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    I'll take the CEO over the diplomat every time in the current U.S. situation...we need a strong hand that is courageous enough to do what needs to be done to turn this country around...that is Mitt Romney! End of discussion.

  • The_Kaiser Holladay, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    Huntsman isn't touting the pro-war, pro-torture line that Romney is. When will we learn that to be conservative means to resist war strongly, which used to be the republican party ideal 20-30 ago? Why did the republicans switch sides with the democrats with war?

    How can someone reconcile the idea that our country is bankrupt and the #1 biggest expense is oversea military spending? Republicans want to cut spending, but aren't willing to touch the 4 trillion dollar wars pure hypocrisy to me. Saying our deficit is now 15 trillion, unnecessary wars has been the biggest contribution to our economic failure.

    The Constitution doesn't give us the authority to run the world, nor to be the world police! Go research the CIA term "blowback", and you will understand why our current foreign policy is America's eventual end. Not only does it create enemies, but it bankrupts our children.

    Utah! Open your eyes!

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 11:34 a.m.

    As the Bible says, there is a time and a season for all things. Huntsman seems like a very good diplomat and a nice guy. Romney seems like he isn't afraid to kick some you-know-what and offend some people. Right now we need the latter...badly.

    Huntsman reminds me of the kids in college who were running for office. They were friendly with everyone around election time, but not necessarily friends with anyone. Huntsman has publicly distanced himself from his religion, which (let's just call a spade a spade) is why lefties in Utah love him. He is lukewarm. Most people don't respond to lukewarm, hence the dismal poll numbers. Huntsman needs to stick to diplomatic positions. He's not presidential material.

    I think Romney will survive the Gingrich onslaught. There are too many clips of Newt saying things for him to last. Go take a look at Ron Paul's new ad.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 11:57 a.m.

    I don't think you can call Romney a leader (at least in politics). It's not leading when you change your opinion like you change socks for political convenience. It's called pandering.

    @A1994, let me respectfully disagree with you about Huntsman. I don't like him because he distanced himself from his religion (I understand his line about being spiritual vs religious--you don't have to publicize piousness like the pharisees did or most GOP candidates do). I like him because he sticks to his beliefs about climate change, believes that the upper brackets can contribute more, and isn't pompous like Newt. We need someone who is willing to compromise and work with the other party and not hold everything up--it only takes on senator to put the entire nation on hold, it requires give and take on both sides.

    Even though I don't agree with him on many economic issues, I think I could vote for him over Obama. Romney is qualified, but will say anything to get elected, and the rest of the primary field, is laughable to say the least. I can't believe the GOP is going to do itself in by nominating Newt--HA!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 4, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    @Pagan:

    It takes a lot less space to just say:

    You don't like Romney.
    You love Obama.

    We have long since got your message.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 12:17 p.m.

    What I find so funny is that when Governor Huntsman (remember - he used to be Utah's governor), he had approval ratings in the 80% range.

    He is now treated by Utahns as a pariah. A former governor from a state "back east" is more popular. Proof of that is that the Deseret News can't give Mitt Romney any more page space - there isn't any left!

  • 4huntsman SYRACUSE, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    I'm surprised more Utahans aren't supporting Huntsman over Romney. Many of my fellow Mormons are not willing to even consider him because he's distanced himself from being a true believing Mormon. I like that Huntsman is honest about his unorthodox beliefs while still calling himself a Mormon. I also respect Mitt for staying true to his orthodoxy. At first glance, Mitt seems like more of a hot head while Jon is gracious and kind...but whatever. This article's attempt at highlighting the different "styles" of both men seems more like an attempt to make Mitt Romney appear the clear choice.

  • isrred Logan, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 1:00 p.m.

    Romney a leader? And which direction is he going to lead, the flip or the flop direction?

  • Bruce A. Frank San Jose, CA
    Dec. 4, 2011 3:32 p.m.

    Wow, I am amazed how liberal UT has become. Huntsman, a RINO at best. Romney is McCain lite, and McCain is Obama light. One does not get to be governor of Mass. without being a liberal at heart. With all the media such an enemy of Republicans, if the press had been able to find the "conservative" in Mit, they would have exploited it in the gubernatorial election.

    Oh, btw, Pagan, such venom! Who WOULD you vote for, besides your man, Obama?

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    o DRay | 9:02 a.m. Dec. 4, 2011

    You'll reject the diplomat in favor of the guy who, while working for Bain Capital, harmed a LOT of "little guys"? No thanks, as far as I'm concerned.

  • Canuk SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 7:30 p.m.

    Sorry can't read pagan any more - just skip through all his posts. Funny he used his 3 - the first 3 and now he can't respond.
    Huntsman, as the article says likes to surround himself with professors and let them do the work. Oh dear don't we have 35 professorial czars in the white house now, costing untold amounts and making decisions that have gotten us into this mess?
    No thanks Mr Huntsman we already have that. Take a look at the glowing letter he sent to obama to get the job as ambassador.
    Sorry, I know about what Romney did for the Olympics and it was a miracle after the mess it was in.
    Romney was not my first choice but Rubio didn't run, so I hope he is Romney's VP.

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    Dec. 4, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    say what you want, but if you do some research you will find that Romney has lead government before and took MA from deficit to surplus. sounds like that's what we need. what credentials did Obama have before becoming president?

  • Wastintime Los Angeles, CA
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:44 p.m.

    Re:Badger55

    Romney claims that he didnt raise taxes when governor of Massachusetts and that he faced a $3 billion budget shortfall. Romney in fact increased "fees" by around $500 million during his four years as governor. Romneys cuts in local aid also led indirectly to local tax increases (mainly in the form of property tax increases). Similarly, Romneys claim to have closed a $3 billion budget gap is exaggerated. In fact, the gap was closer to $1.2 billion.
    Source: FactCheck

  • Scotwright SANFORD, NC
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:50 p.m.

    Mitt Romney is NOT perfect, but his CEO style of leadership is what we need. When he says he will turn this country around you can believe him. Many of our folks are calling Mitt a "Flip-flopper" without any credible evidence of this. He has changed his mind and got on the right side of almost every issue. He has allowed Massachusetts to have their "Health Care" law because that is what they wanted. America does not want universal insurance as forced upon us under Obamacare. Give me a man who wants to do the right things and I will support him. Give me a WANNABEE dictator like Obama, an old politician like Newt, or a nutcase like Paul and I will see him defeated. Mitt Romney is the Best Man Ever to Run for President and he will be elected if America wakes up and puts up the good fight. God Bless America

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    Dec. 4, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    wastintime,
    So we agree he turned a deficit around? it was a 1.2 billion deficit when he took office, but it was projected to be 2 to 3 billion by end of his first FY. I will agree with you for arguments sake. However, Taking 1.2 Billion and ending with close to 600,000 surplus is good business. 500 million did come from fees. the majority of the other 1 billion+ came from giving less to local governments and letting them support themselves (cutting the fat). You cant keep spending what you do not have. and just like a real budget you can't buy everything you want if you don't have the money. again, he turned around a deficit and MA did not suffer from his changes.

  • AFVet Lindon, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 11:21 p.m.

    @Scotwright

    "He has allowed Massachusetts to have their "Health Care" law because that is what they wanted"

    If that is what you believe then how is that showing any type of leadership? You basically want a president who gives people what they want.

    "Many of our folks are calling Mitt a "Flip-flopper" without any credible evidence of this."

    Plenty of evidence, go look it up.

    "He has changed his mind and got on the right side of almost every issue."

    In one statement, you say there is no evidence that he flip flopped and now you say he just "changed his mind".

    Abortion, gun control, gay rights, universal health care, amnesty..... isn't popular with Republicans outside of Massachusetts, I change my mind!!! Look guys I am on the right side of every issue now...Vote me for me!!!!!!!

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Dec. 5, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    It doesn't really matter who we elect. We are going to get a flip/flopper. So do you want the one with all the business experience? Do you want the one who flip/flopped on two of his marriages? Or do you want to keep the status quo and keep wallowing in the unemployment/stagnate economy mire? (And no, you cannot pick Ron Paul. That's not going to happen.)

  • The Atheist Provo, UT
    Dec. 5, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    Utter Nonsense,

    Amen, brother.

    Pass me a can of gas so we can stoke the flames!

  • ksampow Farr West, Utah
    Dec. 5, 2011 10:40 a.m.

    Both Governor Huntsman and SLOC chairman Romney provided exeplary leadership and service in Utah. But Romney has what we need to save our country from bankruptcy.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Dec. 5, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    What I find totally appalling is the level of total ignorance and anti-Mitt baloney rampant on this site. So many have done no homework on Romney but instead have bought into the media heads. Do your own research people. Does it mean ANYTHING at all that the polls have been saying for months that Mitt has the only chance of giving the boot to the current far left socialist in the oval office? Mitt is not far right on social policy but then NO G.O.P. who is far right will even win the 2012 election. Can anyone even find a baggage car large enough to handle all of Newt's baggage? Dems are attacking Mitt. WHY??? Mitt is who they really fear.

  • E. Padron Brampton, Ontario
    Dec. 10, 2011 12:36 a.m.

    As an outsider (non-American) it is baffling to see the surge in Mr Gingrich's republican support. Do the voters not realize that his nomination would seal President Obama's re election? A man who captured the dreams and hopes of not only your nation but indeeed of the entire world (including myself) only to deliver NOTHING in almost every aspect. However in a general election President Obama would be a moral giant in comaparison to Newt Gingrich, a man with such appalling lack of character that was investigated and fined by his own government for unethical behaviour, who as a matter of public record is kown to have cheated on his first two wives, who attacked a sitting president for inmoral behaviour while he himself was having an affair! Who was raised a Lutheran , converted to born again Christian and then became a Catholic jumping from creed to creed with his wife d'jour. Please America have more respect for your great Nation! A more sensible choice is by far Gorvernor Mitt Romney (although his No Apologies rhetoric is offensive to non americans) His values, his record his loyalty to family, faith and nation make him the only credible candidate

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 10, 2011 3:13 p.m.

    Do we need skills and leadership from someone who blasts big business than takes money from them?

    "MICHAEL MOORE, ON CNN: Well, "The Washington post" three weeks ago had this investigation and they said that President Obama has now raised more money from Wall Street and the banks for this election cycle than all -- than all eight Republicans combined. I don't want to say that, because if that's the truth, that Wall Street already has their man and his name is Barack Obama, then we've got a much bigger problem."

    What happened to Obamas law certificate?