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Published: Thursday, Dec. 1 2011 7:52 p.m. MST

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UTNFLBaller
ALTAMONT, UT

Seriously?? Who is selecting these?? What about Derick Sanders, LB/FB from Murray. It shows in stats the kid had 12.5 tackles/game, 3 sacks, 3 int and as I remember watching the only Murray game on tv this year #35, Sanders was the only kid on the field that played defense/offense/special teams. This kid is a leader!! I see him going to a Stanford/Cal/Oregon/Boise type guy. Smart football player!! I was impressed and have played at the most competitive level of football. I don't see how a kid like this was not in the top 12 LB in the state. As a reader of the Deseret News I request this to be reconsidered!!

hsfbfan#1
MIDVALE, UT

Cmon now, Herriman finishes 8-4 and gets 1 total guy on the three teams. Woods Cross finished 4-6 and gets 4. Springville goes 3-8 and loses to Herriman by 22, and gets 5. Northridge in 5A has the same record and gets 7. Something is very wrong there Deseret News...Herriman was much more than a 1 man team.
8-4 with one player...better make Wilson coach of the decade if that is the case.

Skylinefan12
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Congratulations to ALL the young men who spend their summers practicing the sport they love so much. What would we all do without "The Boys of Fall". A special congratulations to all those who have received these individual honors because they above all realize that football is a team sport and without the support of their teammates they could not achieve these honors.

Swishfrom3
Salt Lake City, UT

wow. congrats to these kids. But the system is seriously flawed.

re UTNFL BALLER and hsftball#1fan

heres your answer....

As stated before...start at the Region level. Have the best kids selected there as Region Coaches know who to prepare for and who is the best in thier Region. Then combine them to have the best players and decide.

Letting a Coach not nominate a kid (only Seniors or only Offense kids for example) is wrong. Making it a popularity contest is horrible. The SLC Coaches cant know how good a lineman is from Pine View...etc But his Region teams do.

How does Springville know how good a Box Elder RB is? Coaches are engrossed in who they play the next week.

Some of these picks are mysitical. Losing teams, way lower stats, etc.

So UTNFL your answer is your player either was left off the list from your coach or he lost the popularity contest from Coaches outside the Region that never watched him.

Big Hapa
Kaysville, UT

Hello people it is stats, you either have them or you do not. Now with that said, can there be bias absolutely and perhaps some of that bias opinion has sunk in with a few of these selections but by and large the stats usually prevail.

Good job boy's and lest et ready for another awesome 4A season in 2012 !

Desperado14
Provo, UT

In my opinion.......it is more of a popularity contest. I know of a kid who made first team all-region, had better stats, but because his team had an average season he was passed by for all-state. He made all-state honorable mention and had better stats than the person who made 2nd team all-state. I feel all this happened because the 2nd teamer belonged to a more popular team. Oh well, who said life was fair anyway.

FaifeauSam
Lehi, UT

There are obvious errors in the selection of All-State players. For example, look at the kickers (which most people don't think are very important, but who are important by the coaches' estimation).

Yes, Jake Thompson from Logan is the best kicker in the state and has 74 PATs and 10 Field Goals, but second to him, statistically, is Tyler Solorzano, a junior/DB, from Timpview with 10 FG and 47 PATs for a total of 77 points plus 57 tackles and 3 interceptions. Third is James Baird of Maple Mountain with 8 FG, 33 PAT and 57 points. Fourth (but selected second-team all-state) is Hayes Hicken of Highland with only 5 FG and 41 PATs for 56 points. Where is the rational in this selection?

Are all the positions this flawed? If were going to have All-State selections, lets make them mean something. This can help determine or jeopardize a student-athletes resume when it comes to college recruitment.

FaifeauSam
Lehi, UT

Where and when do the all-region teams come out? Is that the fault of the coaches or the local newspapers in Provo, Logan, Tooele or Salt Lake?

UC Baller
Salt Lake City, UT

Hey FiefuSam.

After reading your post, I agree with you. Digging deeper, how is your QB not First Team??? Explain that one to me.

The Timpview QB was better than both the First Team players stat wise.

Player A First Team- 2432 yards, 22 TDs. 12-2 Team Record
Player B First Team- 2572 yards, 25 TDs. 9-2 Team record
Timpview Quarterback- 2876 yards, 32 TDs. 10-3 Team Record.

The Second Team players had half the stats of your TV QB and were both beat in head to head competition. Very good players, but both were on losing programs.

As a fellow Region 8 fan, I think all those years of Timpview beating people may have caught up to you. Unfortunately, its at the cost of your players. The voting system shouldnt penalize a kid thats deserving IMO. They should make a mistake right.

B-Ball Fan
Bountiful, Utah

Congrats to all the Bountiful Brave All State selections!

eagle
Provo, UT

Hicken is a stud and clutch and I think he has the second most point afters in STATE HISTORY. He doesn't get to kick a lot of FG's because his team scores touchdowns. I also don't have any problem with him on the all-state team because he is also a great DB and WR and all-around good player where Baird is only a kicker, though good.

I also think Kyle Larsen of Provo is a beast. He ran for over 200 yards on four different occasions and had 125 or so against a tough Highland team. He also was among Utah Valley leaders in tackles. Like the Murray player noted above, he played on a subpar team which may have hurt him for first, or at least, second team consideration. But you ask a lot of coaches and players in Utah Valley and they would all concur, this kid could bring it.

Tbirds4lyfe
South Jordan, Utah

Ofahengaue was the Region MVP and All-State first team and yet was the 3rd best DL on the Westlake team! Their DTʻs were unreal. #50 was our coaches priority in making sure he was blocked first and with double teams as much as possible. Dupaix (Skyline) and Whitehead (Olympus) would tell you the same.

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