BYU football: A look at the season


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  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 9:27 p.m.

    Just a follow up because I ran out of space....I guess SOS and the other things that are plugged into a system to justify rankings help the rest of college football fans go on message boards and bash other teams schedule, or conference, or lack of a conference, to help themselves feel better about their teams performance. It's very apparant that the rest of college football dosen't feel the same way about BYU as some of the posts on this board. If it were so they wouldn't even be getting near the votes to break into the top 25. It's alright to think your team is better....what fan dosen't think their team is the best.But to constantly bash BYU and it's program, by calling them irrelivent just isn't true. The numbers, wins, and votes say otherwise. All that being said, it's great because you beat BYU 54-10 to think your team is the better of these teams.It just means you're in the minority, and not in the majority......and that's okay to.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 9:05 p.m.

    I guess I'll try to fill in on how I as a college football fan views things. I could careless about confrences or how things shake out in confrences. Example, 2004 and the Utes beating Pitt. Pitt getting a BCS bid was terrible...they're pathetic. Before the Ute trolls go nuts, I'm not taking anything away from that win, I'm saying they deserved a better opponent. When it's all said and done and all the bowl games have been played, we have a national champion and a list of the top 25 in America. One national champion, and everyone falls in behind depending on the votes. That is starting to fall into place right now. SOS the Sarigan ratings and all that other stuff is just numbers plugged in for the BCS stuff I guess. I don't know or why it's talked about and I could careless. As far as Div 1 football goes right now the 3 teams represented in Utah are....Aggies, Cougars and Utes, and only one is moving up towards the top 25, BYU. Granted a loss could change all that. The bottom line is how you finish and where you finish, nothing else matters.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 28, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    Come on Cougar fans, lift your heads up gosh dangit all. I dislike all this negativity by you BYU fans that are down on the team. Yeah BYU lost to the U 54-10 and TCU but look at all the helmet stickers they won, HELEMT STICKERS!!!!!!!! That is MUCH better than beating your rival or going to a BCS bowl or even playing for a chance at a conference championship. More helmet stickers and wacky WAC teams next year! Rise and shout the mediocrity is out.

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 5:39 p.m.

    If we beat Utah, Texas, and TCU; BYU would be national champions right?

  • fan in orem Orem, Utah
    Nov. 28, 2011 11:14 a.m.

    BYU turned down a decent offer from the Big East? Which part was decent? Give up 75% of the money you can make on your own and join our dying conference? Did anyone notice that the leak that stated BYU was being unreasonable was from CBS, the very group that screwed BYU over in the MWC (they own Comcast)? Explain to me why we would want to travel clear across the country on a regular basis to get the same crappy TV deal we had with the MWC. Maybe, just maybe, Holmoe and the boys know more about what is going on than we do. For those whining about the weak schedule this year, we have been over that a thousand times. Football schedules are made years in advance. This year and next year, we made do with what we could get. We still drew more fans to a cold, late night game against a nobody team than the u has *ever* drawn to their stadium. The only thing BYU needs to worry about right now is winning more games. Hopefully, that will improve next year.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 10:36 a.m.

    The y is a great WAC team, an okay MWC team and is solidly ranked in the 60s as an independent team. Great job bronco.

  • sly_spy Oceanside, CA
    Nov. 28, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    Much of the incentive for BYU to beat meaningful teams was lost after the loss to Texas. It did not matter if we went 11-1 or 6-6. We were going to the Armed Forces bowl regardless.

    No wonder Bronco came up with slogans such as Quest for Perfection in years past. Anything less than Perfection did not provide opportunity for greatness. Thats a lot of undue pressure to put on a coach/team.

    Lets be honest, turning down a reasonable offer from the currently BCS qualified Big East was a HUGE mistake that will have a negative ramifications for years to come. It makes a statement to future recruits that we are okay with going to mediocre bowl game every year.

    I dont buy the whole exposure TV argument. PBS has great exposure. Everyone gets the channel. But guess what? Nobody watches it.

    Exposure will come with relevant MEANINGFUL games.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 10:10 a.m.


    It's not about relevance...it's about your entertainment value.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    The coaching at BYU is sub-par, period. I've yet to see any in-game adjustments by Roscoe's staff any year he's been the coach that have led to a BYU win. It's a shame, so much talent yet no wins against good competition. Either Roscoe is exactly what the BYU admin wants which I suspect is the case, or he needs to be replaced by someone with the ability to actually coach during a game.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 9:26 a.m.

    ute trolls posting on this article

    54-10 (twice)
    Y Grad Pumping gas
    1984 for life (twice)

    10 out of 17

    So who is irrelevent? It appears BYU is really relevent to utah "fans".


  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 7:27 a.m.

    Failure for a season. 54-10 beat down at home at the hands of the utes? Unforgivable! The rest of the season, bowl game included, is meaningless.

  • Noblepromise PROVO, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 5:45 a.m.

    BYU players don't determine who they play, but how they are coached and subsequently play against the opponent! It is disappointing that BYU as an independent scheduled so many teams from non BCS conference even though the school was on ESPN. BYU home game attendance reflected lower attendance than previous years and a non ranking (in the top 25) even with wins against teams below .500. Hopefully next year BYU will play a schedule of teams that are from five conferences associated with the BCS. If BYU is only able to schedule ranked teams (typically from BCS conference) only in September because those teams have conference games in October and November, than staying independent not trying to join the Big 12 or Big East may have been mistake.

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 3:26 a.m.


    Let's get real and put the jealousy and envy aside. Utah is a member of the PAC 12 conference, a BCS league. The Utes played 10 BCS teams and two mid-majors.

    byu is a mid-major, independent team that played four BCS teams and eight mid-majors. The majority of their schedule was against the bottom of the WAC. I do understand they will improve their independent schedule over time. The games against the four BCS teams were extremely important to byu in proving they belong with the big boys.

    Are you having a difficult time accepting the fact that the Utah vs byu game is more important to byu? It certainly isn't as big of game for Utah anymore as it doesn't count against their conference record.

    I'm sure you understand this and your way of dealing with it is to troll on Utah articles and stir up the pot.

    I truly hope byu lands a spot in a BCS league so you can feel your team is relevant again as it once was in the 1980s.

    Every game is important to an independent team. Only Notre Dame can make a BCS bowl without a perfect record.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 11:50 p.m.


    So that's why the Cougs lose...they just don't care enough about winning football games. Well, who knew? Makes sense. With the best receiving corps and O line in the country and future NFL hall of famer Heaps, they would have been hoisting the crystal football, but they just didn't care enough. Maybe you could give the pre-game speech before the Hawaii games and tell 'em that. Please be sure and let us know what they say. Can't wait hoss.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Nov. 27, 2011 11:23 p.m.

    Regarding comments on the BYU season to date, there are many golden nuggets to review and analyze. Yes, the key games worth winning were all lost, especially the Utah game. This set the table for the rest of the season. Combined with a very week schedule that included too many bye-weeks and we have a less than successful season. There is alot about the upper management of the athletic department that needs to be reviewed and addressed. While many think that BYU football has a wealth of talent, the coaching staff needs to be reviewed and revised as soon as possible. I saw a lack of focus in this years football team that I cannot remember ever seeing before. I did not see a will to win. This issue resides with the coaching staff and they need to account for this. It is time to bring in an entire fresh set of eyes to run this program. The recent issues facing BYU and their interaction with other conferences also says the same thing about the AD. It's time for fresh eyes and focus.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 10:05 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    So I am a Utah troll who basically posted what you did? However, my post was ridiculous, though as you said, it was pretty much the same thing you said. WOW. You have proven my original point.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Nov. 27, 2011 9:55 p.m.

    Classic. Both UU and BYU have similar articles posted about their team's season. No comments on the Utah season, 9 on the BYU season, and half the comments are by Ute trolls. Who hasn't moved on? Pathetic.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 9:44 p.m.

    Ducky now turning on his own. He's the gift that keeps giving.

    By the way, 54-10 and your team quit.

    Maybe quitting is the problem.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 9:31 p.m.

    @1984 for life

    The fact that you are a utah troll aside you pretty much said the same thing I said. I wonder if you really think that you are fooling anyone by trying to pretend to be a BYU fan. The screen names generally give you away but then the ridiculous comments just confirm it.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 9:18 p.m.

    It's fans like Duckhunter that give the rational Cougar fans a black eye. Never admitting that another team outplayed the Y or saying the coach didn't take the game seriously is not helpful. Truth as I see it was that we lost every game we played when the opponent was above average. I feel that our players have more ability than they displayed. The Utah game was a debacle. Hopefully this offseason will be spent by the coaches and the team holding each other accountable. Let's stop talking about how good we are and start proving it. I don't care what conference we are in or if we stay independent, just win the games against the non WAC teams. We have proven we can beat them.

  • Y Grad Pumping Gas Beaver, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 8:53 p.m.

    Terrible season, weak schedule, weak coaching, weak negotiations with other conference. The only thing left is to burn our bridge with the WAC conference.

    Knock on wood!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 8:45 p.m.

    The losses this season are very disappointing. Losing that badly to a team as bad as utah is definately the low point. The texas game should have been a win but they found a way to lose it and the tcu game was similar to the texas game.

    There is no doubt they must be better than this. In particular they need to actually treat the utah game as if it matters. That is the big difference between BYU and utah when it comes to that game. utah wants to win it and treats it like they want to win it. BYU doesn't seem to put the same emphasis on it that utah does. I think that is in part because utah's coaches mainly former Cougar players and they simply don't want to lose to them. Bronco on the otherhand acts as if it's no big deal and the team seems to play as if it's no big deal. When you play that way results like the one we got this year are going to happen.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 8:44 p.m.

    54-10 and Ducky went AWOL for two weeks.


  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 8:35 p.m.

    First year was a joke? We're 8-3 with a chance of 10 wins in our first year of independence. We've had solid ratings on ESPN all year, and have improved each game.

    Conservative play-calling killed us against Texas, unforced TO's and what seemed to be the perfect storm got us vs Utah, and special teams mistakes/unforced errors in the red-zone doomed us vs TCU, so obviously there's room for improvement.

    However, we at least didn't lose to a 2 win team...that's a relief :)

    Go Cougars!

  • bribri86 Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 27, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    At least BYU beat all the bad teams.

  • chubbuckidahocougfan Chubbuck, Idaho
    Nov. 27, 2011 6:30 p.m.

    Have to agree with Kankles....

    Given that this was one of the most talented offensive teams we've ever had...they have massively underachieved and are very poorly coached! If you can't beat Utah, Texas and TCU in down years then you have no business proclaiming that you are a nationally relevant team or even say that you shouild be a top 25 team (Bronco said this last week after they beat New Mexico State in his post game). I'm tired of all the rhetoric of "Rise up", "Quest for Perfection", "Band of Brothers", etc., etc., etc.

    Go prove it on the field that you can beat a top 25 team. Is that so hard to ask?

  • Kankles Miami, Florida
    Nov. 27, 2011 6:19 p.m.

    Season is a joke. Lost to every good team and was pounded at home by Utah 54-10.