@79Ute,Yep, I'm saying in 84 Utah was not a quality opponent. And
neither was Pitt. Their preseason rank would matter if this was the fall of
1984, but it isn't. Pitt had a lousy season and finished unranked- they were not
a good football team. Also, sportswriters and coaches ranked the Y #1 under a
system even more broken than the mess we have today- it didn't incorporate
strength of schedule. It was a nice accomplishment, but there isn't a chance
that resume would be awarded a "national championship" by today's
standards.Agree with the rest of your post though. The Bama Beatdown
in the Sugar Bowl was the peak of football from this state. So far..
@ttruthsandwich: So you're saying in '84 Utah was not a quality opponent?
Agreed. Pitt was rated #3 in the country when BYU beat them at Pittsburgh,
probably the best opponent BYU faced that year. That 15 players from that BYU
team were drafted by the NFL is worth noting. Were they the best team in the
country? Doubtful, but both the coaches and the sportswriters ranked them #1.
Switzer's Sooners were ranked #2 and Barry was rankled.Was Utah the
#2 team in the country in 2008? Doubtful, but #2 and even a #1 ranking was
certainly justified with the beat down of 'Bama. Switzer was still rankled.
That win, by far, was the biggest win by a football team from the state of Utah.
The only other win that could even be mentioned is the BYU win over Miami, but
that was at home - Utah won in Alabama's back yard.
They should call it the Crumble in the Rockies. Utah will put the smackdown on
Colorado. CU has not been good for a long long time.
Agree - Utes should not look past Colorado...the Buffs haven't been good, but
stuff happens. My guess is Kyle will have the Utes ready.As for the
"rumble in the rockies" - please. The "holy war" is the
only meaningful rivalry in Utah and it's going to take a long time for any other
game to hold the emotion and "fun" of that rivalry. Hopefully the "powers that be" can figure out how to salvage the
real rivalry. But even if they can't, let's not try and make up some lame
excuse for a rivalry.Go Utes!
@jdub"other than the championship game of course"Winning the Pac12 championship game is a requirement for winning the Pac12
Ok, the Utes have been counting this as a automatic win just like they did
against Washington State. So, the pressure is on the Utes. Also,
those people who want Oregon may wish they hadn't. Ute fans are rookies in this
league and have finally admitted that the conference is bette than the MWC. BYU
fans, be quiet the "big" win you had this year was over Oregon State
@truthsandwichBut would they have beat any? (Other than in the CG of
@ billybob-The difference between the PAC 12 Championship and the 84
shampionship is that a Pac 12 champion would at some point have to play against
at least one quality opponent.
No crazy fans in la la land if UCLA beats USC they are the undisputed pac 12
south champs..... Read it and believe it! Anyone that with what is in black and
white below calls USC anything but what they are is crazy beyond belief. South DivisionUSC (10)6-29-2 UCLA
5-36-5 Arizona State4-46-5 Utah 4-47-4 Arizona 2-73-8 Colorado1-72-10
bwaahaahaahaa. Trying to make it sound like clash of the titans against a 2-10
pee wee team. That's grand. The buffs haven't even made a sound anywhere on the
college football landscape.
You need a classic picture of a Native American, spearing a buffalo. Change the
Natives clothes to Utah jerseys, and put a CU on the buffalo. Or a Native
wearing a Buffalo skin. You can go on all day with that.
Hmmm, to start a rivalry............. Talk smack, back it up, then disrespect
them. BOOM! Rivalry started!!
So they've come up with a contrived name for the game and are trying to pretend
it actually means something. utah should pound colorado which might be the worst
d1 program, and team, in the country. I can feel the sense of
anticipation permeating the entire state over this game.
Billybubba-That game is 27 years in the rear window, the only people who care
are byu fans and byu haters. No connection to the PAC12 Championship regardless
of the participants, no connection to the Utah/Colorado game. Actually, no
connection to this century.
billybubba- No matter what now, USC is named the South Champion by the Pac-12.
Utah would just go to the CG as the South representative in the above scenario.
I think that utah would have a decent chance if they were to play Oregon, the
personnel match up in utahs favor, the best run defense in the pac vs the best
runner. If the utes could slow James and have some good plays on mpecial teams
they could find themselves in a game they may have a chance to win. But
Colorado is a must win, the utes need to come out swinging and play hard.
I am curious if Utah wins and UCLA and ASU lose and Utah goes to the pac
whatever championship game and loses to either Oregon or Stanford. Is this a
hollow championship for the winning school? Does the winner need an asterisk
placed beside its win because it played an average in conference team? Or does
that not matter because of the way the system is run this year? It really does
not matter if it is Utah, UCLA or ASU they should get the asterisk because they
are not the best team from the south right? That goes to USC. This way of
thinking is coming from all Utah fans who seem to think that BYU did not win the
84 championship even if that is the way the system played out that year.
Rumble in the Rockies? Are they going to play football or stage a production of
West Side Story?
An interesting weekend coming up; Utah can't overlook Colorado, UCLA should be
thwacked by USC, & the Big Question is ASU vs Cal.That aside,
hopefully Utah fans who might have written off this 2011 season will return to
the fold, & in future years take a stronger stand now that the competition
is clearly much more vigorous than we experienced with the old Mountain West.
One thing for sure, we should acknowledge the Utah coaching staff as
phenomenal. Doubts about the kicking game & special teams? Gone. Doubts
about the defensive secondary? Even with significant injuries, they've come
thru in the clutch. First string QB out for the season? JH holds the fort.
Offensive line must improve? Enter the Wolfman with a record-busting ground
game. WOW.Any way you paint it, this has been a pretty special
year. So --- A tip of the cap to the whole team & its
exceptional coaches. The entire Utah organization has earned a ton of respect
this year, and you have surely demonstrated you fully deserved the PAC10's
invitation to the PAC 12. But no time to rest. The BYU rivalry is
over. It's time to move on.Stay Hungry, Stay Strong, Go Utes!!!!
This Coug fan hopes you stomp Colorado and win a chance to play for the pAC 12
title. Coach Whit, staff, and players have done a remarkable job of fighting
through adversity and crafting a good season.
"Snooze in the Rockies" would be more appropriate. For a one time
great program Colorado is in the depths of a long sleep. Sadly, this is only
another opportunity for Utah to run up some statistics from the weakest of the
PAC 12 sisters that have helped them thus far. In the stats department only
Jake and Cougars for the second round could be better for the Utes than CU.
"Vampires and Werewolves" may make for a more exciting Friday night.
Coach Whit is right. You can't manufacture rivalries. Colorado needs to show
it can win a few games first for their to be any sense of a rivalry.
bigutefan: I graduated in spring, so I'm not in the MUSS anymore, that's what's
missing ;) Seriously though, I miss being there for every game, my friends and I
would go wild..
The MUSS does deserve recognition, but of all those 10 years, I hate to say it,
but this years 2011 MUSS is probably the weakest. I know, I'm going to get hate
mail, but something is different this year, can put my finger on it.
Okay the marketing machine is on way by way of wagon. Rumble in the Rockies?
Save it. Rivalry insertion can only be done on the field. That said, I am pumped
up to be at Rice Eccles on Friday.One more time for White to run on
the white snow. I keep praising him. White keeps outdoing my praise. Now I am
insanely cheering on 42 carries. White will need a recovery process before the
bowl game. He should get 4 weeks, but I hope we are in the PAC 12 title game