Published: Wednesday, Nov. 23 2011 12:00 a.m. MST
I support Ron Paul because he never would have sent us there in the first place.
Nor would he bury us in debt as has Obama.
Yet strangely, in Utah, GW is still given high marks and Obama is called things
like "socialist, marxist, communist, community-organizer". While we
were busy spending money on Halliburton, and rebuilding a country we bombed to
smithereens our own nation suffered greatly. I guess socialism is only a good
thing when it involves "spreadin' freedom" The truth is roundly
ignored or whitewashed in this state where people are spoon-fed their political
Just a temporary lull. If Romney gets into the WH, we'll be facing a truly
catastrophic showdown with Iran. So keep your boots on, soldiers...
I think that President Obama is experiencing a lesson learned by Humpty Dumpty,
it will take more than 4 years to repair a nation that Bush/Cheney spent almost
8 years destroying!
@ DougWhat has Obama done to disarm the military? Last I checked, we
still spend 5 times more than #2 China. Last I checked, the defense budget was
still increasing. If the military is losing moral and its ability to
defend itself despite still receiving large amounts of money (increasing amounts
of money), then maybe it needs to look inward. Cut the fat, change its training,
be more accountable, be responsible, and more innovative. We've all
had to become more productive while receiving less, why should the military be
exempt? We can't keep handing out blank checks to the military in
"hopes" that they won't waste it.Stop wasting our taxpayer
money on $100 toilet seats. If we were to cut the defense budget in
half, it'd be amazing the changes we'd see. The increase in productivity,
accountability, and a much more effective military.
Isn't it interesting, though, that the reason the troops are leaving Iraq is
because of an agreement that Bush made with the Iraqi Government? All that has
happened is that Obama has failed to get a new agreement with Iraq, which he
worked on, so the troops are being pulled. What is odd is that Obama didn't try
to leave US troops in Iraq without any legal protection. That, I would expect.
"Resentful population" in Iraq?? You have no idea what you are
talking about. You haven't been there. You haven't seen the gratitude in their
eyes. You haven't seen how happy they are since they feel less threat from the
tyranny of a dictator. You have been duped by the media..
Yes he is such a smartsy and benevolent ruler. Now lets talk about his
fomenting revolution in Egypt, Syria and Libya...The world is a much more
dangerous place because of Bush and his partner, Obama.
Eisenhower faced a lot of opposition when he pulled our troops out of Korea too.
To "Sam Walleson" you realzie that Obama also supporte the uprisings
in Egypt and Libya, which had help from Al Qaeda. You also know that those
nations are now have more turmoil than they did under the dictators they
removed.What you are saying is that you are glad we are pulling out
of nations where we are killing terrorists (the bad guys). You are also ok with
the nations where the President ordered the US military to help terrorist
organizations overthrow their governments.
"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological
weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons.' - George W. Bush - Ohio Speech
10/7/2002 *'US gives up search for Iraq WMD' - BBC News -
01/12/05 'Mr Duelfer reported last year that Iraq had no stockpiles
of chemical or biological weapons at the time of the US-led invasion nearly two
years ago.' Result? *'U.S. Military deaths in Iraq war
at 4,485 - AP - Published by the DSNews - 11/22/2011 Think it will
be DIFFERENT under another Republican President? *'GOP contenders
argue on Iran' - By Kasie Hunt - AP - Published by DSNews - 11/12/11
"If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon. And if you
elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon," vowed the former
Massachusetts governor.' Under Obama: *'Obama announces
total Iraq troop withdrawal' - By Ben Feller - AP - Published by DSNews -
10/21/2011 Hard to give Bush 'credit' for Iraq withdrawl... when it was created to be enforced AFTER he left office. I guess
Republican leadership is signing something... not actually BEING
there to clean up the mess you MADE. Your choice.
Sam Walleson of Holladay Utah said: "President Obama has finally put an
end to the madness George Bush started - $1 trillion spent and many thousand
young Americans either dead or mangled. All we have to show for it is a
resentful population in Iraq and a greatly strengthened government in Iran.
Thank you, Obama. It takes more brains and courage to end a war than to start
one".That's nice.But we are now allowed to protest
the capitalist's. They are for BIG OIL and BIG BUSINESS only. Egyptian Military
Using Lethal Nerve Gas on Protesters. The Egyptian military has been using a
banned chemical agent to deal with hundreds of thousands of protesters,
according to several news sources. At least 23 Egyptians have died and more than
1,700 have succumbed to a lethal nerve gas military forces have been using
during the past three days in clashes in and around Cairo's Tahrir Square. The
lethal gas had been used at the height of South Africa's apartheid in the 1980s
and has been banned by international convention. An Australian paper reports the
gas canisters are marked "Made in USA." Or they might do
this to us?.My views.
Obama spent a few trillion more than all U.S. presidents combined, presiding
over the first credit rating downgrade in history. His social re-engineering
experiment has been an absolute disaster no matter who does the bean counting.
He's going to be a one-term president and his presidency, rather than being
hailed as "transformative," will be labeled as
We need to trim the fat. We pay for the Egyptian military. We've
given them technology, jets, and tanks. This kind of nonsense needs to stop.We can certainly protect ourselves if we cut our defense budget in
half.Other countries? *gasp* might need to raise their own
militaries.Our own *gasp* might need to make adjustments and become
more productive and efficient. Sorry folks, but we can't afford to
keep handing out blank checks. Everyone from office workers to school teachers
have had to make adjustments. Foreign aid and military personnel should be more
different. Time to trim the fat!
The children of the poor are sent to war.The children of the rich, get
richer from the war, and they stay home.If it were the children of the
rich going to war; we would not go to war as often, and we would bring the kids
home sooner.The rich need to get some "skin in the game"
The sad truth is that Utahns supported the illegal invasion of Iraq at a higher
rate than any other state. On the flip side, fewer Utahns were joining the
military to go fight the war, than any other state. The support was in name
only, none of them were willing to put their backsides on the line to actually
fight it. When Bush told house republicans that now Iraqis could get
healthcare he was cheered. When Obama did something to get Americans healthcare
he was sneered. Why is that?Bush's wars have put far more in the deficit
than Obama's spending, in the US. Why is it ok to fund wars with debt but wrong
to spend money in the US on roads and such?
To "Pagan | 9:14 a.m. " lets get some facts that prove your rant 100%
wrong.From "Agreement Between the United States of America and
the Republic of IraqOn the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq
and the Organization ofTheir Activities during Their Temporary Presence in
Iraq", signed and ratified in 2008. Article 24, item 1, states "All
the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than
December 31, 2011." So, Bush did set things up for a set end date. Obama
should get 0 credit for removing the troops from Iraq because he had nothing to
do with it.Since you are still complaining about the WMD's in Iraq,
you always forget that thanks to the CLASSIFED information leaked onto
Wikileaks, we learned from Wired, and other sources that "WikiLeaks Show
WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq With Surprising Results". We learned that
"WikiLeaks newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years
afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter
insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass
destruction."I know that isn't enough proof for you, and unless
Sadam was gassing you personally you wouldn't believe it.
So long as the US Department of Defense can ship at least 9 billion dollars in
pallets of shrink-wrapped $100 bills to Iraq and then not have any idea what
became of them, there's lots and lots of room for budget cutting in the
Pentagon.Get us out of there now. Change our energy
policy so we are less in the thrall of dictators who sell us oil.
Sam,since BO is so wonderful, why was he negotiating to stay even longer
I was a bit worried that Pagan and his long laments were absent.Obama has done nothing that wasn't already in the works. The man is rapidly
abandoning Israel and the other good nations.
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