Comments about ‘BYU football: Cougars won't be joining Big East’

Return to article »

Published: Tuesday, Nov. 22 2011 6:48 p.m. MST

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
Nostradamus
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Mixed feelings on this one - I like BYU and have been particularly well entertained as Riley Nelson came in as the gunslinger QB who seems to love the game of football and made it fun to watch.

The Big Least is not very impressive, so I don't think BYU is missing out on much by not joining them. However, it does seem that scheduling will become increasingly difficult as an Independent. BYU is a big risk for the AQ teams to play. Already the AQ teams must play their division games - why would they want to risk a game with BYU, (who has proven they can beat just about anyone in any given year) and spoil undefeated seasons and potential national championships?

Independence will continue to be great for exposure (I wish the Utes had the ESPN televised games) - but, it will be difficult for long term football success. Notre Dame is not a great model for BYU to follow, BYU lacks the legacy and the Rudy nostalgia (plus the huge number of Catholics in the country) - Independence for BYU will likely look much more like Army or Navy - good teams, just not power houses that challenge for the National title. Nothing wrong with that, but seems like a likely scenario.

Go Utes!

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

Boise and AFA should not join big east and jump in as independent. BE is the big bad wolf the way I can tell.

utahcoug
LEHI, UT

This is awesome!! BYU gets to continue to play awesome games against teams like Idaho, Idaho State, New Mexico State, and San Jose State.

This whole thing was done over money. I'm done going to home games, and watching games for that matter. BYU admin does not care about the home fans, all they care about is ESPN. Do they honestly think that fans are going to continue to go to games in October and November to watch home games against crap teams in games that really do not count. What a joke!!!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Well we'll hear from the ute trolls for awhile but in the end this was the result I wanted. Good news for sure. Now they can get on with independence and hopefully there won't be anymore of this stuff to be a distraction.

I will miss the ute troll angst however but have no doubt they'll find something else to try and denigrate BYU with.

JeffE
Grantsville, UT

To those who are trying to pile on BYU for their "unreasonable demands", a line from a recent movie comes to mind where the hero asked for something extraordinary. His response to their initial refusal was: "Hey, you guys came to me". BYU was approached by the Big East, not the other way around. BYU was happy to move from independence if it would be a better situation for BYU's goals. If the Big East wasn't willing to accommodate those demands, then BYU wasn't willing to join them. It is that simple. Remember the reason they went independent - because of horrible TV exposure. Why would the degrade what they have now for a 1 year temporary BCS conference?

Now, I personally would have liked being back in a conference to make November meaningful, but I understand what BYU did and why.

Johnny Moser
Thayne, WY

I read the home tv rights like this: If you can't put us on tv sets with the network deal you have as a conference THEN we can do it on our own and whatever money we make doing that is ours and we aren't going to share. What is wrong with that? If a school think's its brand has value and the league it is attached to doesn't market it very well (WAC or MWC or Big lEast or whomever) then we will market it for the games you don't. Smart business.Just because nobody else wants to try doesn't mean it is wrong, would imagine that there are plenty of other schools out there thinking about it right now. If BYU pulled it off, every Texas, Florida State, Georgia, USC, and others would be doing the same thing. Good for them in sticking to the business plan. Make the brand available ALL the time not just when the league wants to. Nobody wants to watch Wyoming play even in Wyoming, so don't spread the exposure just to be fair; market the product people want. BYU thinks that people want to watch BYU Football, I agree with them.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

David said:

"No need to hyperventilate folks. BYU has a long term contract with ESPN that provides stability for them. BYU also has their own broadcasting equipment, studios, technologies and capabilities. Why give all of that up by giving away the broadcast rights for home games?"

BYU has to win games and draw TV ratings for stability to mean anything.

Winglish
Lehi, UT

I'm out of the Cougar Club. Forget it.

Luv 2 Troll U
Sandy, UT

It's not only Utah trolls Duckhunter, read the comment above you.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Riverton Cougar said:

"Some people are out of the loop and don't realize that the Big East really wanted BYU and already invited them. BYU just didn't agree to their terms.

So only one BCS conference expressed interest in Utah, while two BCS conferences have expressed great interest in BYU. That and the fact that BCS conferences deem BYU worthy of being "BCS-caliber" means that Utah fans can officially no longer say that Utah is "BCS-caliber" while BYU isn't.

I'm excited for independence. Fans have complained about the schedule, yet are so quick to forget that we all knew a good schedule wouldn't be possible the first coupls of seasons due to the short notice. It's nice that BYU's in a position to be able to set their own terms. Other teams don't even have that option; they must take what they're offered. Beggars can't be choosers. BYU is obviously not a beggar."

LOL!

Forty years of WAC legacy and long distinguished list of football awards. And what do you have? Still no power conference affiliation.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Something that the Big East Wizards didn't consider is that when their teams played BYU in Provo they would be televised over the entire globe, not just some regional game.

Also, I wonder why San Diego State suddenly isn't satisfied with the MWC when Utah, BYU and now probably Air Force leaving would give them an opportunity to finally win the conference. They're pretty weak, really. But of course they just loved doing the hatchet job on BYU who they couldn't beat where it counts---on the field.

BYU is head and shoulders above any other school in the country with their state-of-the-art broadcast facilities. Texas is envious; so is Oklahoma. LSU or Alabama should have it so good. Remember the OSU-BYU game in Oregon where BYU rolled their HDTV Truck into town on a few hours notice? No one else in the country can do that. Why should they have to forfeit that for their own home games?

Stay independent.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Riverton Cougar said:

"So only one BCS conference expressed interest in Utah, while two BCS conferences have expressed great interest in BYU. That and the fact that BCS conferences deem BYU worthy of being "BCS-caliber" means that Utah fans can officially no longer say that Utah is "BCS-caliber" while BYU isn't."

You have got to be kidding? Any rational college football fan in the country would say that The PAC 12 is a better place to be than the BIg Least and Big 12.

Utah is in a stable conference. Something BYU knows nothing about.

So. Cal Reader
Escondido, CA

A little venting from a Cougs fan. Obviously BYU administrators know much more about the details than any of us. But, as a fan, I simply don't understand why BYU broke off the talks. It's seems to be wrapped around not wanting to lose the current 8-year contract with ESPN, but ESPN has the contract w/ the Big East? So, that's a head scratcher. Apparently, BYU is choosing "nat'l exposure" on ESPN over getting into a solid conference, with much stronger conf. scheduling & better potential for a BCS bowl than remaining independent. Their schedule this year was laughable. With the exception of 2-3 games, not much there-- other than padding stats. And look what they did with the "prominent" teams from this year-- they lost to both Texas and TCU. The schedule improves "a little" in the future. But BYU is so far away from being an established independent "power house" as Notre Dame is, where teams stumble over each other to play them. Nat'l exposure is nice, but BYU is YEARS away from getting into any serious BCS discussion. And that's a fact!

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Your not even a little nervous Duckhunter? Do all decisions made by BYU get induced by you to be the best move possible?

I feel bad for a lot of BYU fans because November is a time to play football against conference opponents, positioning yourself for the best bowl game, and having a quality schedule as the climax of a season.

Exposure is great, but what kind of exposure are we looking at. Friday night at 8:30 PM against Bo Didley Tech. Sure your the only game on. But do you think those watching, including your own fans respect your exposure? No way.

The BYU fans across the country can watch games more often now. But winning over new fans and recruits seems to be a stretch for me under this indy thing.

ESPN likes the ratings because their are BYU fans everywhere to watch. Again, what about your recruits and potential fans? Furthermore, what about your own fans locally, who are losing interest in attending home games?

Big J
Bountiful, UT

Can Bronco be more delusional when he said? But I love the schedules we're putting together for the future, and I love the chance to partner and be on TV as much as we are. I think it's helping us. I'm very comfortable (with independence) When you have a good competition level and a good football team, and TV, then you get it all. I think that's what we have."
Every BYU fan I talk to hates independence. Spin, Spin, Spin.

Go Utes!

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

"CA. reader | 7:54 p.m. Nov. 22, 2011
Rocklin, CA
For those of you who take this as an opportunity to hammer BYU, and therefore the Church, your ignorance of history is glaring."

I am LDS and proud of it, my LDS Church Membership does not require me to love BYU fooseball.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

toosmartforyou said:

".....BYU is head and shoulders above any other school in the country with their state-of-the-art broadcast facilities. Texas is envious; so is Oklahoma. LSU or Alabama should have it so good. Remember the OSU-BYU game in Oregon where BYU rolled their HDTV Truck into town on a few hours notice? No one else in the country can do that. Why should they have to forfeit that for their own home games?"

They better put a winning product on the field and draw national attention for good ratings.
Otherwise they might as well retrofit the HD truck into a taco wagon.

Razzle2
Bluffdale, UT

BigJ
Can Bronco be more delusional when he said? "But I love the schedules we're putting together for the future, and I love the chance to partner and be on TV as much as we are. I think it's helping us. I'm very comfortable (with independence) When you have a good competition level and a good football team, and TV, then you get it all. I think that's what we have."

I used to think it was spin, but I'm starting to think he really believes it.

idaho cougar fan
Twin Falls, ID

I am glad we are not joining the Big East. I still wish they'd work things out with the Big 12. But independence (even with bad home schedule) is better than being in a conference that is getting weaker and weaker by the day. Big 12 or Pac-12 is the prize, not the Big East.

wazzup
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Bronco, make up your mind. Don't let BYU make up your mind. you want to be in a BCS conference and play in a BCS bowl or you want to stay independent? they are mutually exclusive!

BTW.......what other spin did you expect coming out of BYU?

And I'm a BYU fan who is frustrated with this nonsense. The BCS won't kick out the BEAST! Just like a conference won't kick out a school regardless of how bad they are.

BYU is naive. And it will most likely cost them big time.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments