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  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Nov. 24, 2011 7:52 a.m.

    The latest. The Romney team will not apologize for their lying, and we can expect more ads like these. Once a liar always a liar. Are we are just now seeing the real Romney, and not the "weather vane" candidate of the past. If he and his campaign are so willing to lie, what can we expect of him as President--lying us into another war perhaps?

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Nov. 23, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    Does Jon Huntsman campaign like this? NO. Does Jon Huntsman stand head and shoulders above the other 7 candidates? YES. Is Utah rated as the best state for businesses to conduct their business in for the past 2 years any result of our former govenor Jon Huntsman's quality leadership? YES. Does Utahn's and the rest of the nation recognize Jon Huntsman's qualities, service to nation attitude, foreign world background, intellect and public speaking clarity? NO. This is without any doubt the best qualified man to lead this nation from it's economic, corrupt business ways, and defeat Obama of the the other laughable candidates. I say this being a life long democrat until the last 10 years of understanding the greedy filthy ways our country is managed by elected reps now being a reformed independent. There is only "1" qualified candidate up for election voters, so get on board now and vote for Jon Huntsman!

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 1:22 p.m.

    One last item to the Ron Paul list of "has never's"

    Ron Paul has never been a serious candidate.

    And a new list of "will never's"

    Ron Paul will never be a serious candidate.

    Ron Paul will never be President of the United States.

  • paperboy111 Lindon, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 1:02 p.m.

    I'm a bit surprised that Romney chose to take Obama's words; "If we keep talking about the economy; we're going to lose" out of context. If you've been following the blogosphere, you know that Obama was in fact quoting the McCain campaign during the presidential campaign of 2008. The way this video is spliced together, it sounds as though these were Obama's very own words. It's really disappointing, but I guess it's a sign the gloves are off and this is absolutely a dirty, no holds barred fight.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 12:52 p.m.

    Are there racial undertones to Romney's "Believe in America" advertisement?

    "There are three things about the racial composition of the people in the background: For Obama, whenever theyre shown clearly, theyre a mix of whites and blacks. Whenever theyre either presented in dark light so you cant see, or presented at a speed that makes them subliminal, theyre all black," emailed Drew Weston, a professor of psychology at Emory University and the author of The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation. "For Romney, there isnt a black person in the background in any of the scenes hes in. its inconceivable that his team didnt think to make sure there was at least some diversity in the crowds he was speaking to unless the goal was to juxtapose subliminal black people against white people for Romney."

  • Alaskan Ute Fairbanks, AK
    Nov. 23, 2011 12:23 p.m.

    Say it aint so Mitt - you're a liar?

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 11:03 a.m.


    "...a very dishonest person with little to none morals...".

    Newt Gingrich.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    Now Romney begins to show he's just another lying politician like the rest of them.

    Ask yourself, does he really have this nation's best interests at heart?

    Obama's approach to the economic crisis has been deemed ineffective... but I must point out that we really aren't any worse off than we were 4 years ago under Bush. There is only one small step between "not any worse" and "a little better"... do we want to give Obama another four years to make that step? Looking at the situation in Europe, things here could certainly be much worse.

    You have to know that we won't come out of this recession in one Presidential term or even two... it is going to take decades for America, and the world, to recover.

    So, in the end, do you go with the devil you know hoping for more of the same... or do you go with a stranger and gamble that he doesn't make things worse?

  • Kami Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    It is disappointing to read these boards and see some LDS trying to justify the blatant misrepresentations that have allegedly occurred in this ad for reasons such as "its politics" or "democrats do it too", etc. I thought taking the high road was an important part of the gospel, as long as a willingness to stand up for what is RIGHT. When non-members read this kind of support what kind of message do you think it is sending, both from a gospel perspective and a perspective of Romney's candidacy.

  • Andermart Pullman, WA
    Nov. 23, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    This election is not about who said what, or who is Mormon or who is without God in the world. It is about finding someone who can stop a super-power (America) from free-falling into financial disaster. Bush couldn't do it and Obama obviously couldn't do it. Please stop fooling yourselves about this. America must elect a senior executive who understands financial responsibility.

    It is not about maintaining the current distribution of jobs. It is about creating jobs, but the Government does not need to be creating and maintaining all of these jobs internally. The Government needs to create an environment wherein the American people can create jobs. Then America as a nation can step up and do their part to stimulate job creation.

    See the big picture. When companies downsize they are making themselves more efficient. Restructuring adds longevity. Then more people can benefit in the long run. Congress cannot make these tough decisions. Mitt can.

    America needs a leader who knows how to do that. The only candidate with that kind of experience is the Republican Mitt Romney. Wake up America. America needs the longevity. We need the redistribution of jobs and we need it now.

  • Mayfair City, Ut
    Nov. 23, 2011 7:52 a.m.

    Rutland vs. Medfield: "C'mon, Mitt! Be upstanding. Be honest. Be moral. Be ethical. Be the man most of these posters think you are and not the campaigner we are seeing on TV.
    Twisting words into political spin and selling out your natural man to the Tea Party is no way to win an election."

    Gotta agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    Mudslinging? These adds contain outright misrepresentations and lies. Will someone please send the good Bishop a copy of the Articles of Faith? There is a great difference between hardball politics and taking statements completely out of context. Obama did not say Americans are Lazy, he said that government and corporations have not been as diligent as they might have been.

  • Sandy Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 1:02 a.m.

    I've been a long-time Romney supporter but I don't support this nastiness. This is exactly the type of thing McCain did to Romney last time around, and it made me despise him. He did not get my vote in the final election because of it.

    Romney's the only politician I've ever supported with my wallet, because I believed in his principles. I'm really sorry to see this behavior in his campaign, and of course I won't be sending any more money unless it's clear he can get back on the high road and stay there.

  • Kiyo Washougal, Washington
    Nov. 23, 2011 12:07 a.m.

    The left cries "distortions" in Romney ads....I call it playing hardball.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 22, 2011 10:00 p.m.


    Since you like asking questions. How good are you at answering some? Read & answer:

    Oct. 20, 2011

    With the approval of the Obama administration, an electric car company that received a $529 million federal government loan guarantee is assembling its first line of cars in Finland, saying it could not find a facility in the United States capable of doing the work.


    1. When we need jobs here, why is BO creating employment in Finland?

    2. With our enormous deficit, why send our money to another country?

    3. Building the Canadian oil pipeline would create over twenty thousand jobs and bring the price gas down. Why did BO stop this project?

    4. Why did BO send billions of dollars to and for Brazilian oil drilling when it could have been used here?

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 9:38 p.m.

    Lying is neither moral or show that you have values (unless you value being a liar).

  • Well Read SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 8:46 p.m.

    I fear Romney is pandering too much to the right wing of the republican party and will turn off the moderates in the country who will decide who the next president will be. I worry about a person who has such a massive personal fortune. It seems he is trying to buy the presidency. While I realize one can buy anything with money it seems a shame that the presidency can be purchased with money. We as a country should be above that.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Nov. 22, 2011 7:23 p.m.

    It should be against the law for any politician to take snippets of speech and use them out of context. Generally they are outright lies, and that should not be tolerated. But as the artical noted, it gets the desired result. However, I'm not sure how anyone can feel good about winning through lying and cheating.

  • Dart Thrower Ogden, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 6:17 p.m.

    Romney's ad misrepresented a quote from Obama, but it doesn't matter because the ad had the desire effect. Really? It's OK to bend the rules, lie, cheat, stretch the truth so long as you get the desired results? Isn't this what we are all trying to eliminate?

  • dobberdobber Ivins, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 5:39 p.m.

    I am extremely disappointed in Mitt Romney. I thought he would take the high road but unfortunately he has stooped to the Karl Rove type of campaign. The only two Republicans I see that have any honesty are Jon Huntsman and Ron Paul. Even though I don't like a lot of their stands on issures, they seem to be the only ones that will tell the truth. One big problem in this Country is most people don't want to hear the truth if it conflicts with their party's stand. We seem to get what we deserve as we turn a blind eye to the truth and it is destroying this great nation.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Nov. 22, 2011 5:31 p.m.

    This new ad is not new Romney.

    Last week Romney was saying Obama called Americans "lazy."

    And didn't Romney write a book entitled: "No Apology," essentially claming Obama was going around the world apologizing for America? When, in fact, Obama didn't apologize. When, in fact, Obama pointed out great things America has accomplished and contributed to the world, while acknowledging America isn't perfect.

    Well, this type of stuff--twisting, distorting, lying is like catnip to Republicans.

  • Honest Abe Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 5:17 p.m.

    While I hope the future leader of our nation will hold conservative family values and a similar set of beliefs, the fact that Governor Romney and I share the same faith makes it even more important how he manages his Presidential Campaign. I would rather see Romney lose the election with keeping an honest campaign rather than win with smear tactics. Politics does not give us permission to "[commit] a little sin; yea, lie a little, take the advantage of one because of his words, dig a pit for thy neighbor..." Unfortunately however, this is exactly what is being taught.

    If I were Romney, I would recant the advertisement, graciously admit the error, then dutifully shape up the campaign.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 5:16 p.m.

    'Mitt is Just pointing out Berry's failure as President of The United States of America. Also how Berry has been a divider of the American people.' - Dadof5sons | 3:21 p.m. Nov. 22, 2011


    Party rhetoric instead of facts.

    The REASON people are loosing faith in Mitt Romney is:

    1) He changes his position on stances so often, that people dont' know WHAT he would/will not, support:

    *'Mitt Romney steers clear of Ohio health, union issues' - By Dan Sewell - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/25/11

    *'Mitt Romney reverses himself, supports anti-union law' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/26/11

    2) Romney, is the one who is not being honest:

    *Firm dissolves after giving pro-Romney PAC $1 million' - By Ken Thomas - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/04/11

    *Romney campaign battles Dems, Press over issue of transparency By Barrett Haake NBC News 11/17/11

    There it was this morning, on the front page of the Boston Globe, a headline no campaign ever wants to read: Before leaving office, Romney staff wiped records.

    WHY, is Romney taking Obama quoting someone AS Obama's words and 2:

    WHY is Romney wiping his records?

  • MormonDem Provo, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:58 p.m.

    C'mon, Mitt. I'm not a supporter, but as a co-congregant I'd like to at least think that you'll represent our shared faith honestly.

    Today, defending this ad's blatantly dishonest editing of Obama's words, Mitt's spokesman said "He did say the words. That's his voice." That kind of rationalization of a lie is simply evil.

    Mitt is already receiving a hailstorm of criticism for this dishonest ad from all sides. And that criticism is well-deserved. All Mormons--indeed, all Americans--should be embarrassed by this.

    (Hint: if you think you're the good guys, and the other team is the bad guys, and that's how you justify doing bad stuff to beat them, guess what: you're not the good guys any more.)

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:48 p.m.

    Can Obama take what he dishes out?

    What about Republicans wanting to starve people or letting old people die? This guy is a cry baby.

  • sid 6.7 Holladay, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:45 p.m.

    Are you for real Grammy?

    "Good man with morals and values"? You need to do your homework young lady!

    How dare you indeed!

  • FDRfan safety dictates, ID
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    Hyundai is a proud partner in the American dream creating over 94,000 U.S. jobs at manufacturing plants, dealerships and suppliers, among other operations. Weve never lain off a single U.S. manufacturing team member not one.

    American capitalist sent job overseas. Foreign capitalists bring jobs here. Ill support the latter any day.

  • Grammy3 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    Rutland vs Madfield. How dare you say that Mitt Romney does not have the honor of President Obama. I honor the fact that Mr. Obama is the President of this Country and just that he is the President but as a human being I think that Mr Obama is a very dishonest person with little to none morals. Mitt Romney whether or not you like him he is a good man with morals and values. He might not be what people want him to be as far as running for the office of President but as a man he is a good man.

  • Rutland vs. Medfield Seattle, Wa
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:06 p.m.

    C'mon, Mitt! Be upstanding. Be honest. Be moral. Be ethical. Be the man most of these posters think you are and not the campaigner we are seeing on TV.

    Twisting words into political spin and selling out your natural man to the Tea Party is no way to win an election.

    You do not have my vote, Mitt, because you do not have half the honor that President Obama does.

  • Ms Molli Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:05 p.m.

    If the ad was untruthful, an honest leader would accept responsibility for his staff, apologize and move on. If the ad was untruthful, a politician who cares about winning and nothing more will claim he didn't no. Let's see how this plays out. This could be a real test of Romney's credibility as a leader.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 22, 2011 3:50 p.m.

    Somebody get me a violin. Obama would never blast anybody.

  • Dadof5sons Montesano, WA
    Nov. 22, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    Obama can not run on his own record. Mitt is Just pointing out Berry's failure as President of The United States of America. Also how Berry has been a divider of the American people.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 2:50 p.m.

    if GM and chrysler had gone BK pre-bailout, we'd have saved a few billion dollars.' - lost in DC | 2:30 p.m. Nov. 22, 2011

    Annnnd we would be out, 3 million American jobs.

    *'How Many Jobs Depend on the Big Three?' - By CATHERINE RAMPELL - NY Times - 11/17/08

    'In both cases, there would be major short-term shocks to employment; depending on which scenario you use, a contraction of the Detroit Three would result in direct and indirect job losses of 2.5 million to 3 million in 2009.'

    This would also, make Mitt Romney 'right.'

    Just, at the expense of 3 million American jobs.

    Oh, but we would save 'billions.'

    The auto-bail outs were signed by...a Republican President.

    *'Bush signs $17.4 billion auto industry bailout package' - By Nelson Ireson - Motor Authority - 12/19/08

    Tell me, would YOU be impacted by the US saving $3 billion dollars?

    Or by Mitt Romney ending over 3 million American jobs by 'saving' us that money?

    The Republican party has put themselves in quite the pickle.

    Cut the budget, like Hill AF base.

    But neither Bush nor Romney, have honesty.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    if GM and chrysler had gone BK pre-bailout, we'd have saved a few billion dollars. So when you keep posting that quote, you're saying Romney was correct.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 2:26 p.m.

    'I wonder why Romney deliberately lied about a quote from President Obama?' - Dixie Dan | 2:09 p.m. Nov. 22, 2011

    'Critics say the ad uses some of the Obama clips out of context, especially when the president says "If we keep talking about the economy, we are going to lose." It appears that in that instance, Obama was quoting an aide to then-2008 opponent Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who had used those words anonymously in an interview.

    That might be beside the point though...' - Article

    'The Prop 8 campaign employed the basic dirty politics tactics.' - Truthseeker | 2:12 p.m. Nov. 22, 2011

    Not just the Prop 8 campaign, it looks like.

    Seeing as how the entire add is taking Obama QUOTING someone else...

    and then INJECTS that, into 'Obama's words.'

    I enjoyed how the article actually brought this up...
    and then claimed it was 'beside the point.'

    Lying, is beside the point now.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Nov. 22, 2011 2:12 p.m.

    While I agree with your semtiment, if the Prop 8 campaign is an example of the Church's work, I wouldn't recommend Mitt follow their lead. The "I'm a Mormon" campaign was the positive messaging the Church normally does. The Prop 8 campaign employed the basic dirty politics tactics.

  • Dixie Dan Saint George, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 2:09 p.m.

    I wonder why Romney deliberately lied about a quote from President Obama?

  • Ms Molli Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2011 1:13 p.m.

    JustTheTruthMan | 12:21 p.m. Nov. 22, 2011
    Bountiful, Ut
    "If you need assistance on how to best advertise consult with the church's advertising department! I'm sure they'd be more than glad to help. :) "

    And THAT would have the church crossing the line into endorsing a candidate. I'm sure many would hope the church would help, but not for the reasons you are likely hoping for.

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2011 1:11 p.m.

    "I'll make sure that America is a job-creating machine like it has been in the past."

    Oh my goodness. LOL

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 1:01 p.m.

    'Titled "Believe in America," the 60-second ad begins with a number of audio clips of Obama talking about fixing the economy...' - Article


    Because Romney, cannot stand on his own record of job 'creation.'

    Mitt Romney on Job creation:
    From 2003-2007 job growth....0.9%.
    In rankings with the rest of the country...MA was 47th in Job creation when Mitt Romney was there.
    - Think Progress Travis Waldron 06/02/11

    *'Mitt Romney as job creator clashes with Bain record of job cuts' - By Lisa Lerer, Bloomberg News - Published by DSNews - 07/20/11

    'Employees who lost jobs at Bain-controlled companies more than a decade ago say they still hold Romney responsible.
    "I would not vote for him for anything," said Phyllis Detro, 68, who lost her job...'

    *'Let Detroit Go Bankrupt' - By Mitt Romney - NY Times - 11/18/08

    At least Romney is 'of the people'.


    *Mitt Romney: Corporations are people...my friend - By Phillip Elliot - AP - Published by DSNews 08/11/11

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:54 p.m.

    We'll have to see how Romney makes it through the Republican primary elections. If he can get through and get the nomination without having to yeild too much to the Tea Party wingnuts, he may maintain a modicum of honor to appeal to the Independents. Just saying "Obama is a failure" is not enough to get the vote of anyone with a real concern for this nation. He needs to be specific in what he would do differently from the current administration.

    As has been noted elsewhere, the real heavyweights of the Republican Party have chosen to sit out this election cycle. Few with any real sense of the state of affairs and the economy would envy Obama and the job he has to do. Simplistic rhetoric will only translate into failure regardless of who is president. And with Christie and Rubio both looking ahead to 2016, if not Obama winning a second term, they sense a Republican president in 2012 would probably fail and only have a single term.

    Re: ute alumni | 12:20 p.m. Nov. 22, 2011 Tengoku, UT

    Sounds like a football rally in some small, Texas town. Go Team!!

  • MonkeySpider Lindon, ut
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:37 p.m.

    Brief Overview of Congressman Pauls Record:

    He has never voted to raise taxes.
    He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
    He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
    He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
    He has never taken a government-paid junket.
    He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

    He voted against the Patriot Act.
    He voted against regulating the Internet.
    He voted against the Iraq war.

    He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
    He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:23 p.m.

    OH the nerve of this RINO's first Romney TV ad blasts Obama. Oh I'm sure now, Mitt Romney will buy up all these failed companies, that the GOP crashed back in 2008, lay everyone off, then sell them to China. Then Mitt Romney will candidly talk about the central role of Jesus Christ in his faith, drinking and smoking once as a teenager, and what music he has on his iPad. The Treasury Department sold $35 billion in 5-year notes. 5 YEAR 0.89% on Tuesday at a yield of 0.937%, the lowest level on record and below where traders expected the sale to come. Bidders offered to buy 3.15 times the amount of debt sold, the highest since May and above the average of 2.82 times at the last four auctions. Indirect bidders, a group which includes foreign central banks, bought 45.3%, versus an average of 43.5% of recent sales. Direct bidders, a class which includes domestic money managers, purchased another 9.6% compared to 13.2% on average. After the auction, the broader bond market erased losses. After the auction, the broader bond market erased losses. Yields on 10-year notes.

  • JustTheTruthMan bountiful, ut
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:21 p.m.

    Please Mitt... Be legit! Keep your campaign clean of any mudslinging... You are above it... At least so your religion says! :) Focus only on why we are going to be a better country with you not why we have been struggling with someone else or would struggle with some more of the same. If you need assistance on how to best advertise consult with the church's advertising department! I'm sure they'd be more than glad to help. :)

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:20 p.m.

    can't blast him hard enough. obama has to go. an additonal four years will do horrible damage.