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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 22 2011 9:16 a.m. MST

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Sandpiper Air
Salt Lake City, UT

He must be a good man if he listens to the Eagles.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Mitt Romney tells 'People' about Jesus, beer, his iPad music' - Title

Why can Mitt Romney talk about Jesus...

but not anyone else?

*'President Obama's purported 'weird'-Mormon strategy against Mitt Romney will backfire, pundits say' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 08/10/11

To date, Obama has said ZERO about Mitt Romney's faith.

Others have though:

*'Rick Perry backer decries Mitt Romney, Mormons' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar, Deseret News - 10/08/11

"(Robert) Jeffress described Romney's Mormon faith as a 'cult,' and said evangelicals had only one real option in the 2012 primaries. ... Asked by Politico if he believed Romney is a Christian, Jeffress answered: 'No.' "

Mitt Romney is NOT a man 'of the people.'

*'Let Detroit Go Bankrupt' - By Mitt Romney - NY Times - 11/18/08

*Mitt Romney: Corporations are people...my friend - By Phillip Elliot - AP - Published by DSNews 08/11/11

And, in my opinion, only in it for the money.

*Romney campaign battles Dems, Press over issue of transparency By Barrett Haake NBC News 11/17/11

There it was this morning, on the front page of the Boston Globe, a headline no campaign ever wants to read: Before leaving office, Romney staff wiped records.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Rather than Mitt Romney's jesus...

I would rather talk about Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney on Job creation:
From 2003-2007 job growth....0.9%.
In rankings with the rest of the country...MA was 47th in Job creation when Mitt Romney was there.
- Think Progress Travis Waldron 06/02/11

*'Let Detroit Go Bankrupt' - By Mitt Romney - NY Times - 11/18/08

'Mitt Romney as job creator clashes with Bain record of job cuts' - By Lisa Lerer, Bloomberg News - Published by DSNews - 07/20/11

'Employees who lost jobs at Bain-controlled companies more than a decade ago say they still hold Romney responsible.
"I would not vote for him for anything," said Phyllis Detro, 68, who lost her job...'

*'Mitt Romney steers clear of Ohio health, union issues' - By Dan Sewell - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/25/11

*'Mitt Romney reverses himself, supports anti-union law' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/26/11

*Firm dissolves after giving pro-Romney PAC $1 million' - By Ken Thomas - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/04/11


*Mitt Romney: Corporations are people...my friend - By Phillip Elliot - AP - Published by DSNews 08/11/11

BYU Track Star
Los Angeles, CA

Mitt, I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you.

Oh, the Humanity

or is this a ploy to appear as a "Man of the People" to Future Voters? Not some Goody-two-shoes? Why do I feel I'm being manipulated with this new bit of information?

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Mitt, thank you for sticking by your faith and defending it. That's more than we can say for some other candidates running this time.

Mitt is our only chance to defeat Obama and save our country. I hope everyone will jump on board now.

runarg
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

@Pagan

If youre so smart...why don't you just run for President?

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Oh, Cats, you crack me up with the whole "save our country" propaganda. Our country will be just fine no matter who is in there, just as it has over the last, what, 250 years. We all seem to survive and recover no matter who we want in as president. By the way, it's not even the president that makes most of the decisions about this country, so you should be more worried about defeating dems in the house and senate.

As to anyone who is surprised about Mitt's drinking and smoking - and I'll bet he cursed up a storm also as a teen - if the vast majority of teens - Mormons also - deny they did those things, then they are only fooling themselves. Kind of like my brother, who had us hide beer in a Pepsi can so he could drink it without being caught (by the public), but his faith would tell him that God knew exactly what he was doing. He was fresh off a mission at that time, so about 21 years old. This is the problem I have with religion and politics and those who protend to take the high road of Christianity!

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'@Pagan
If youre so smart...why don't you just run for President?' - runarg | 10:24 a.m. Nov. 22, 2011

Are you saying you would vote for me?

I head no idea that's what the article was about.

Can't defend Romney?

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Mitt is our only chance to defeat Obama and save our country.' - Cats | 10:17 a.m. Nov. 22, 2011

I thought our country would be 'destroyed' if we ELECTED Obama?

Now we need to 'save' it, FROM Obama?

FYI, our country has been doing fine WITH Obama.

As exampled by:

*'Osama bin Laden Killed: 'Justice Is Done,' President Says' - By DEAN SCHABNER - ABC News - 05/01/2011
'Osama bin Laden, hunted as the mastermind behind the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil, has been killed, President Obama announced tonight.'

*'We have been waiting for this moment': Libya confirms Gadhafi is dead' - MSNBC - 10/20/2011

*'Obama announces total Iraq troop withdrawal' - By Ben Feller - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/21/2011

Will our country be the same under Republican leadership?

*'GOP contenders argue on Iran' - By Kasie Hunt - AP - Published by DSNews - 11/12/11
"If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon. And if you elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon," vowed the former Massachusetts governor.'

I cannot say.

All I know is I will not support ANOTHER war based on 'WMDs.'

rlsintx
Plano, TX

Angry Birds ?

I'm shocked. Just shocked, I tell ya.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Admit it Pagan, you won't vote for any Republican, let alone one who is LDS.

Boring.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

From the dept of labor: from Jan '09-Apr '10, private sector job growth was 67.5K monthly. After signing Obamacare, job growth plummeted to 6.4K monthly.

From the Economist:

LAST month Barack Obama, following his approval ratings, headed south. He took a three-day bus tour through Virginia and North Carolina, both of which he had won in 2008, reversing a decades-long erosion of Democratic support in the South. He met soldiers, students and teachers. Virginias Democratic politicians, however, stayed away. Tim Kaine, a former governor now running for the Senate, pleaded a full schedule elsewhere. Others were less kind. Phillip Puckett, a Democratic state senator, declared, I dont plan to support President Obama for re-election. Churlish, perhaps, but it worked: on Tuesday Mr Puckett won his own re-election battle.

Ponch#
OGDEN, UT

I think that Mitt lacks some of the qualities that Repubs seem to like:
-Ruggedness, getting your hands dirty.
-Insensitivity to animals, by hunting regularly in some sort of way
-Being able to throw a beer down while watching the game, like millions of Americans do
-Wearing some blue jeans that has dirt from actual work

I know this is all stupid, but George W. Bush and Sarah Palin had these qualities and it didn't seem fake. It gave a sense of connectiveness and created better electability by relating to the rural common folk.

Me, being a white collar worker, Mitt still seems to much like a disconnected CEO to me.

Pete in Texas
Copperas Cove, TX

xscribe? Your excuse for not liking the LDS church, and religion in general, is based on the lies that your brother is telling? So you're gonna judge every religion based on that, and in essence everyone who is religious? Wow... glad to finally meet someone so open-minded and willing to see things as they really are. For a minute I thought you might be one of those hateful, grudge-holding kind of folks. Glad to know you're above anything so trivial....

BTW... for everyone anxious to call people who believe in religion as "hypocrites", I'd only offer this one thought:

I'm happy to bear that label. At least I have a moral compass or code to try and live by. Sure, I fail from time to time, but I'd rather be labeled a hypocrite for trying to live a higher set of standards and failing occasionally than someone who has no standards or guidelines at all and therefore cannot live at all hypocritically.

Kind of like walking in a pasture full of horses and cows: I'll try and avoid stepping in anything stinky as much as possible. In the end, I stink less than the guy who doesnt care.

Boston
Spanish Fork, UT

@Pagan
"Our Country" is not doing fine! A candidate professing his belief in Jesus may give the USA a chance, but even that... This country is in a downward spiral while riding in a hand basket carried by a downright selfish gov't, democrats and republicans alike. Again, this country is not doing fine and if you are serious in saying the aforementioned, you are one blinded individual!

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Should Mitt have a bit of a fit, the DN will have it writ. We git hit now with news that ol' Mitt even lit!
Will the Mormons now have a snit?
Stay tuned to hear Mitt's got a zit.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

Democratic Pollsters: Obama Should Abandon Run for Second Term:

Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen argued that just as Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson decided not to pursue additional runs though they could have, Obama should do the same. He should abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but more important, of governing effectively."

From Politico:

Roughly a year out from the 2012 presidential election, that may be true. But already, as Obamas most recent forays into battleground states indicate, there are growing signs that many Democratic politicians dont want to get too close to him, either.

In trips to Michigan, North Carolina and Pennsylvania all states that he carried in 2008 members of Congress were notably missing from the presidents side. Though none came out and said they were deliberately avoiding him, they didnt have to: Dodging a presidential candidate whos riding low in the polls is a time-honored political practice.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Hey, Pete, how about reading my post again. I did not judge anyone but my brother. I have no problem with you practicing your religion, Mormon or otherwise. If you read my post without getting all defensive, you will see that what I have an issue with is those who have "sinned" and then take the, I'm better than you because of my (insert religion here.) Even you insinuate that because you are religion, you have a moral compass, but apparently those, like myself, do not have that same moral compass. You are flatout wrong about that. I do not believe in God, but if there is such a being, I have zero worries about what my fate might be. I can guarantee that I live a more moral life than a lot of my so-called religious acquaintances, and follow the teachings of Jesus more than my so-called religious acquaintances. And guess what, I even have a beer on the weekends!

And since you bring up hypocracy: One is a hypocrit if one intentionally does something against their supposed beliefs. Happens a lot! Mistakes are one thing; intention is another!

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

From US News & World Report:

Even Democrats Criticize Obama on Energy:

Instead of expanding access to new areas, the new plan restricts drilling access almost exclusively to the Gulf of Mexico. As a result, the announcement drew the ire of those who support domestic energy production; it even brought jeers from Virginia's Democratic Sens. Mark Warner and Jim Webb.

From the UK Telegraph:

Democrats doubt Barack Obama's reelection chances
President Barack Obama is facing mounting doubts within his own party about his re-election prospects, with fellow Democrats beginning to ask if Hillary Clinton would have made a better president. Finding it hard to defend his often listless and repetitive performances, Democratic strategists and commentators are privately agreeing with Republicans and comparing Mr Obama to Jimmy Carter, another Democrat who remains the post-war benchmark for a failed president.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

From the WSJ:

Wayward Senate Democrats Keep Distance From Obama:

Sen. Joe Manchin was among thousands of visitors at the Preston County Buckwheat Festival . . . The Democratic lawmaker barely mentioned President Barack Obama. "We're trying to keep him straight," he told the operator of a ribs stand. "Trying to help him." Bob Taylor, a Republican who supports Mr. Manchin, was blunt about the gulf seen here between the two Democrats: If the president campaigned with Mr. Manchin, he said, it "would be the kiss of death" for the senator's 2012 re-election bid. "The most important thing that Joe Manchin has done is not get on the Obama bandwagon."

From CNN:

For Democrats, second thoughts about Obama?

Perhaps no one is questioning the 2008 results more than Democratic politicians who must face the voters next year. Right now, it looks like President Obama, rather than offering coattails to those below him on the ticket, may instead be serving up an anchor. This is ironic, when you look back at what actually happened during the Democrats' 2008 primary, and at who made Obama the party's nominee.

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