Democrats want big government, leading to more debt for our children and
eventual default.Republicans have it right in promoting smaller
government and less spending. They also have the right idea when they promote
tax cuts, but with the wrong timing. They want to cut taxes now and then work
on spending cuts. We should cut spending FIRST and then work on the tax cuts
when government is down to a manageable size.
@Larry & @onevote-----We do not have a "Republican
Congress" - we have a divided Congress, with Democrats in control of the
Senate and Republicans in control of the House. In fact, for most of the last
century Democrats have controlled one or both chambers of Congress.
UtahBlueDevil,Lady gaga? I was just clowning around. When Obama
said millionaires, pay your fair share, and you can pay a little more, I think
he meant all millionaires. I used Lady GaGa as an example of a millionaire to
lighten up peoples ill feelings toward the rich. She hasn't caused our economic
My thoughts on this may be out in left field, or somewhere disconnected from
reality, but it would appear that when the super-committee (a gross
exaggeration) convened, they had no real intent on coming up with a viable
solution to out of control deficit spending. I imagine that when these supposed
Super 12 started to present their suggestions, each and everyone objected
because it was their personal sacred cash cow that was targeted and heaven
forbid that should happen. Yes, this is an overly simplistic view, but
perception is reality, and the reality of this situation is that these baffoons
probably had no intent on making changes at all. What a scam, sham, and disgrace
to all of us citizens. 535 elected representatives and officials in Washington
need to be shown the door to the unemployment office straight away.
cut, cap and balance has become stall, sneak and spend.
DN: This does not violate your rules, and is tamer than many comments here.Deltafoxtrot is right on the money.It's time to fire some
people. Let's start with the Super-Dud Committee. Here are their names:Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, Patty Murray, D-Wash., co-chairs; Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.,
John Kerry, D-Mass., Pat Toomey, R-Pa., Max Baucus, D-Mont., and Rob Portman,
R-Ohio; Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., Xavier Becerra, D-Calif., Dave Camp, R-Mich.,
James Clyburn, D-S.C., Fred Upton, R-Mich. Their supervisors are Harry Reid,
D-Nev., Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., John Boehner, R-Ohio.I'll get to work on Hensarling, though not from my district. Who's going
to work in Nev, Wash, Cal, Ariz, Mont, where a considerable DN readership
exists?It's time for a revolution. Since I doubt we have the stomach
for violence anymore, the only way we are going to take back our country is to
take power away from the old guard congress, and elect people who will vote in
term limits and regulate lobbying.We hired them to do a job. If they
don't do it, we fire them.
Worf - where the heck did line number 4 come from? Lady Gaga? What the heck
does that have to do with anything?But let me respond to your
question. Lady Gaga, if she earned her money in the US, has very limited tools
to avoid paying taxes on current year earning she has in the US. On
the other hand, a company like Accenture, which is formerly known as Anderson
Consulting (yes of Enron fame), changed its headquarters from the US, to
Bermuda, then to Dublin Ireland to avoid paying corporate taxes. Does Accenture
have any executives based in Dublin - no. Do they have a large corporate
command and control infrastructure in Dublin - no. They essentially have a PO
box. And by this, they get to avoid paying taxes.So, yes, it is
more about US corporations that play custom crafted loop holes who don't pay
taxes. But it is also about US based millionaires who try to hide
their income too.
Neither side ever intended to complete this assignment because both sides know
that sticking their neck out on these cuts or even a mix of cuts and revenue
increases is a losing proposition at the polls. which is a sad statement on the
electorate, because many of us know that these ridiculous deficits cannot be
good for the country in the long run, but the informed few will be overrun at
the polls by the ignorant.
m.g. scottGlad to see a republican can finally kind of admit that
this mess started with the previous president. I don't like where things are
going either, but right or wrong this president inherited a disaster and he is
trying to stop the bleeding. All I have heard from the republicans as a their
solution is to cut taxes for wealthy and cut the benefits for those receiving
money through so called entitlement programs. I really don't think that is the
solution either, but maybe at this time next year the American people will give
them a chance to prove they are right. I hope since republicans get all
offended when someone references the President Bush and the problems he left
President Obama that they will take charge and solve the problems and will not
reference the economy they inherited. When the republicans go to blame
President Obama for their struggles, I would also remind them that only one
President didn't run up a large debt under his watch, and that President was a
Democrat, and he left the previous President a surplus. Just food for thought.
In the words of President Ronald Reagan, "There you go again"I looked under "Policy Difference Under Two Presidents" and it
talked a lot about Herbert Hoover. Boy you must REALLY be "one old
man."As for the Senate and fillibusters, that power really only
came after the last election. For a while the Democrats had a 60 filabuster
proof majority, until Sen. Kennedys passing. Until last election the Democrats
had 59 including one Socialist (Sanders) and an independent (Libermann). But the
Republicans had the Maine twins, who many times vote with the Dems. And maybe Bush doubled the debt, But what has Obama done. He has run more
debt than all the previous presidents combined. I don't defend Bushs' economy,
but we are NOT headed in the right direction with Obama.
Casual Observer--Partly right. We should fund a trip, all right. A
trip back home to try to get a job and earn a living in this economy that they
have created. Talk about entitlement programs--Our senators and representatives
have the biggest entitlement program in the nation--healthcare and salary for
life. Do you get that? I sure don't. Let's put them on SS and Medicare and
see what happens.
We should fund a trip to Greece for our lawmakers. They need a dose of reality.
@Utter Nonsense: Thank you! Yes indeed the only way to fix the corrupt and
broken federal government is to overhaul the entire governmental process through
a new constitutional convention. Contact your state
representatives... ask them to start calling for one.It only takes
34 states to call for a convention... and at last count we've got 26 suing the
federal govt. over Obamacare. I'm sure those states would be on board for a
convention... that means we really only need 8 more.With a
Constitutional Convention we could get things that congress in its current state
would never pass.1: A balanced budget amendment.2: Two term
limits for all elected officials.3: Campaign reform.4: Affordable
healthcare for everyone.5: Limits on defense and entitlement spending.6: A simplification of the tax code.7: Tie congressional pay to the mean
salary of the represented district.The list goes on.
* we elect leaders who lie and cheat on their on their wives.It
looks like the Republicans want to elect Gingrich.
Who in their right mind thought that six Republicans and six Democrats could
possibly find a middle ground? Not even the Supreme Court has a balanced
number. We needed 13 average Americans who weren't influenced by power and
money to sit down and simply say, "No more foreign aid. After all if there
is no money in the bank, the check will bounce." From the looks of this
blog, it is just name calling at its best....yet some more. We have enough
money, just not enough sense in how to spend it. What part of 'No' does
Washington not understand.
*'Senate Republicans Block Defense Bill, 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' Repeal' - By
MATTHEW JAFFE and DEVIN DWYER - ABC News - 09/21/10 The Republican
party does not care about you. It does not even care about national
security. As, 9/11 happened DURING George W. Bush's watch. Not before. And last, the Republican party voted against the ENTIRE military Defense
Bill... rather than allow openly gay service members.
How is this part of 'national security??' Shut down the ENTIRE us
military rather than allow LGBT into it?
FDRfan,"It is dishonest and reaffirms the Republican assumption
that Americans are stupid and easily tricked."-----Some reasons
why Republicans are correct:---* we elect leaders who put us into a
fifteen trillion dollar debt.* we elect a president with little
knowledge of his past.* we elect leaders who lie and cheat on their
on their wives.* we elect leaders who sign trade treaties and create
regulations sending our companies and jobs to other countries.* we
vote in a president who stirs anger amongst its people by creating blame.Doesn't appear our countries voting record is very good. Can you list
ways the republicans are wrong? Are we a prosperous and united nation?
re:very concernedre:m.g.scottDemocrats have a slim majority in
the Senate--not enough to override filibusters which Republicans have used in
abundance. Bush doubled the debt. Bush was still Pres. when
Democrats took control of Congress in Jan 2007. What massive spending programs
did they enact when Bush was Pres.? Tax cuts, Iraq War, Medicare Prescription
Drug Plan all took place with Republicans voting in the majority. Debt under Obama has increased largely due to substantially decreased revenues
and spending to stablize the bad economy, left to him by the previous
This is not the fault of Republicans nor Democrats--It's our fault. We keep
returning these corrupt feeders-at-the-taxpayers trough year after year. It's
time to clear the house of these nincompoops--of both parties. I swear to never
vote for another encumbent again. Throw all the bums out!
m.g.scott, please Google "Policy Difference Under Two Presidents" and
see what you find.
So taxing the rich may make you feel better, but it is not how our money
problems will be fixed. I could use a little "feel
better". At least it is something.
A broken record, but to all of you out there who seem to think it is the
Republicans who got us here, remember recent history. The Democrats took total
control of Congress in 2007. And it was not just a typical Democrat take over,
but one led by the most liberal Democrats namely Pelosi and Reid. People for
whom the terms "cut" or "stop spending" don't exist. Then
the spending problem was doubled by the addition of Obama. The Republicans only
got the House last year. So their responsibility for the debt is minimal.Bush never had this large of a dept. It's mostly the Democrats who spent us
here. As for taxing the rich, add the numbers up. If you took ALL of the
billions and millions held by the upper 10%, it would hardly touch the debt.
So taxing the rich may make you feel better, but it is not how our money
problems will be fixed.
Almost everyone expresses disgust with our broken government but look at what is
happening with Newt Gingrich. He epitomizes all that is wrong with the way
things work in Washington and the people who run it. His message is like saying
"Yeah I'm the kingpin of the mafia and as such I know how to deal with
it" I'm very disappointed with Romney's attack on Obama by
"quoting" Obama's statement on not talking about the economy. It is
dishonest and reaffirms the Republican assumption that Americans are stupid and
easily tricked. Romney needs to clean house on some of his inept staff.
figures. could anyone have hoped for otherwise?
We all need to read Tom Brokaw's new book, "The Time of Our Lives."
It's a very sober look at where we all need to go. The main message is that we
need to return to being a nation in which everyone is willing to roll up our
sleeves and join in pushing the wagon along.But there is one quote
that stood out for me when I read it: "Democrats are the party that says
government will make you smarter, taller, richer and remove crabgrass from your
lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then
they get elected and prove it."So true. But until we all start
sharing our parts of the load and learn to work together, there will be no
solutions from anywhere.When we expect others -- anyone, and
especially Congress or the President -- to do it for us, then we are going to
fail. It's really that simple.
a serious man,1. Defense creates many jobs.2. Why won't
countries attack us?3. Cutting EPA, foriegn aid, and the Department of
Education would save a ton.4. Is lady gaga and Obama greedy millionaires
not paying their fair share or is it only business men?
I have to agree with the title of a new book,, "Throw them all out".
All they do is spend their time feathering their own nests with bribes, payoffs,
insider stock deals, generous pensions, salaries, and exemptions from Obamacare
(Democrats do this as well even though they passed this disaster)among other
things. They are overpaid, underworked, and corrupt. Our ship is sinking while
these people sit around politically posturing and scheming new ways to gain an
advantage over each other. What is really surprising is that they have an
approval rating of 9%, it should be lower.
"But McCain and Graham have been working on legislation that would undo the
automatic defense reductions and instead impose a 5 percent across-the-board
reduction in government spending combined with a 10 percent cut in pay for
members of Congress."Now this is something about which I want
to learn more. A Congressman actually proposing a cut in pay for himself and his
colleagues for the good of the country. I am not a huge McCain fan, but if he is
sincere on this one, I hope to read more about it. Why not add to that
legislation that members of Congress past and present have no special health
insurance privileges and/or exemptions? Eliminate legislation that creates the
re: LarryLarry's posting confuses me a little. First,
There are two houses in congress, the House of Representatives (currently
controlled by the Republicans), and the Senate (currently controlled by the
Democrats). The Democrats controlled both houses till the elections of 2010. I
don't think we can say that the GOP congress has failed. They only control one
of the two houses, and that only recently. What I believe is that the lack of
cooperation between the two houses/parties is the problem.Second,
the policies mentioned in Larry's post seem (to me) to be those of the
Democrats, not the Republicans. The blame or credit for the failure or success
of those policies should rightly be attributed to the Democrats.
If these people worked for a company, they would all be fired! America should do
the same! Incompetent do nothing congress.
keep drinking yomama's kool aid. he displays NO leadership. yo, do the right
thing and step down now so we can let the rebuilding process take place.
I watched Scrooge last night after watching Norquest on CNN. A perfect man to
play the part of Scrooge before his life changing experiences. I can't fault a
person for truly believing the typical Republican dogma but that doesn't seem to
be the case at all. These Republicans are literally scared for their political
lives of this man. They have literally become cowards who are dying a thousand
deaths. Man up and do your duty.
The department of defense is alive and well. They have overseas bases in Korea,
South Pacific, South Africa, and Germany like it was 1967 and the sky is going
to be full of nukes headed our way.There is only so much gullibility
from the masses.General Don Arthur recently retired Navy general
said there are over 900 ships, docks and large floating pieces that could easily
be retired rather than maintained at a billion dollars annually and it would not
hurt the navy in any way.I am guessing the pentagon is not going to
be forthcoming with that information.Enough is enough with .40 of
each dollar goes to maintain this war machine they have had enough of my money.
The mindless war in Irag would have paid for better schools at home, university
tuitions, and healthcare for the uninsured.When do we get to choose
a better use for our tax funds?Aren't the people we elect supposed
to listen to us?
"If you don't make cuts, these cuts are mandatory" - unless you don't
make cuts and then we won't do anything.If someone is in debt and
can't get out, do you just increase the credit limit on their credit cards do
you? Do you give them more money? No, you have to stop spending money. Don't
spend money you don't have. I am embarrassed with this countrys inability to
manage it's finances. This is pathetic and embarrassing. Maybe we can
hypnotize Congress to get them to stop spending money. The commercial says it
helps people stop overeating and smoking.
Remember the phrase by Rahm Emmanuel that "Don't let a crisis go to
waste." If you don't have a crisis, the President invents one so he can
blame the other side, whatever that side is. He pushed heavy-handed Obamacare
and now that people are reading it after voting for it are deciding that it will
break the 1/6 plus of the economy. This made up Super-Group was successful in
"Don't let a crisis go to waste." Now we will have one-year prior to
the election to play on words and deeds to make this crisis pervade the next
year and for generations as the government will now have an excuse to take down
the Department of Defense and other critical agencies related to our national
I look down the faces on the photo and see such illuminaries as John Kerry and
realize that this was a scam from the get go. Why don't we just throw the bill
over the White House fence like he threw his dog tags?
Go ahead and cut defense. The original cuts were not deep enough there anyway.
And no, countries will not suddenly try to invade the USA, despite fear
mongering from the dogs of war.
The failure of this committee to do its job must be remembered at the voting
booth next fall. This failure must not be clouded, in the meantime, by likely
unsuccessful attempts/excuses to stop the automatic cuts or to otherwise soften
the face of the real problem. The real problem being too many middle and upper
class earners don't want to pay for their gov't services, and they appear to
want to unload what they pay to help the poor.In my voting booth, I will
vote for those who cut the military to the bone, defend our obligation to help
the poor, and continue a progressive tax rate system.Our military is long
overdue to close our European and Pacific bases. Our military needs to be
culled of lifers and return to jobs in an economy that's more butter than
guns.The poor need skills training, but some poor just need help all the
time.Our tax system doesn't need a flat rate with no deductions, but we do
need to re-argue each deduction and we do need to redistribute the income, I
liked reading about Robin Hood as a child, it now needs to happen.
The conservative right cannot govern, only demand and posture until they take
power. Then they can do another Bush Administration.
So, The GOP thinks they know what is needed.The GOP Congress has failed
and has no plan to move ahead, Not concerned about the People needing a JOB.All of the free money we received is now lost and can not be re captured.That was a good idea and could have worked if people would have spent it to
activate the Factorys to start Manufacturing.Ford and GM have now been
saved for the short fkix.
I think it's time the American people vote some of these politicians out of
office and cut their severance package as part of the budget cuts and send them
back into the private sector to earn a living!!!