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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 22 2011 6:01 a.m. MST

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rlsintx
Plano, TX

"Kopp was the only head coach in BYU history that was not LDS".

That may be true for football, but the (men's) wrestling coach in the late 70's was also not LDS. Fred Davis - coached almost 20 years I think

Provo4Life
PROVO, UT

Winning percentage is often overblown. I want to know how the coaches peform against ranked teams or teams with a winning record. That shows true greatness because it allows us to see how they prepare a team and how they adjust during close games. Take this season for example, we are 8-3 and still not happy with the outcome of the season. We beat up on bad teams and play close with average teams and lose to teams equal to our level. Lavell lost his share of games to poor competition, but his body of work and where he took this program was phenomenal. Even his bowl record stunk though, 7 bowl victories when he played in 19? Bronco may have the highest winning percentage, but is far from the greatest coach. As for me and my house, we will take LaVell

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

Congrats to Gary Crowton for coming in 4th. Imagine where he may have landed if the Cougars had been more patient.

BYUfaninWashSt
Everett, WA

Never has a coach had such lopsided competition during his tenure (far more cupcakes than any other coach, as compared to his teams' talent, on paper). With fair competition, Bronco would likely have a losing record. We know that ... and thus the article.

jackstraw
Manti, UT

This article was ranked great until the very end. There is no way that you can put Bronco above what Lavell did. Bronco is a great coach and great for this team, but there is no way that he is the best coach BYU has had. That is Coach Edwards. You can't even begin to compare the two.

jackstraw
Manti, UT

Ok now I go back and look closer at the title. Don't post on messages until the caffiene has kicked in and you are fully awake. My mistake.

defibman
Syracuse, UT

@ rlsintx

Uhhh, look at the story headline. It was about "football". Why would they bring up anything about wrestling or anyother sport when the article is about Football?

Please people read the story headlines, then the article and then if you have a ligit comment, write.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Provo4Life

Bronco isn't done.

Beating teams with winning records isn't necessarily a divine sign. Utah beat us. Ironic that BYU is discounted because of the competition we've played, yet the same folks are eager to count us as a quality win.

LaVell was the greatest. Bronco has gotten off to a faster start.

doc24
PROVO, UT

Creating a ranking system where Bronco is above Lavell is a disgrace. The two should not even be compared.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Provo4Life | 7:36 a.m. Nov. 22, 2011
PROVO, UT
"Winning percentage is often overblown."
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Agreed.

Winning is way over-rated.

Give me a coach with a high losing percentage anyday...

("As for me and my house, we will take LaVell..."
I don't let my house make those kind of choices...)

Levin
Hightstown, NJ

@BYUfanInWashSt: I don't see a real difference in the scheduling between LaVell era and Bronco era. For every Pitt, there was a UTEP. For every Miami, there was a UTEP. For every Texas A&M, there was an Arkansas State.

COUGARNATE
Lyman, WY

@ Provo4life. I like your point, but you are mistaken. LaVell did not coach in 19 bowl games, he won 19 Conference Championships. He actually coached in 22 bowl games, with a 7-14-1 record.

Aggie238
Logan, UT

You can't rate the current coach with much left to prove better than a legendary previous coach like Edwards. It's unfair to both of them. Bad form, DesNews, bad form.

Edwards is clearly the better coach as it stands now. In another 10-15 years, who knows? But for now, you can't even begin to compare Bronco's body of work to LaVell's. Edwards put BYU on the map in the world of college football. Bronco has won some games against a less-than-stellar schedule, but doesn't have much to show for it in terms of keeping BYU in the national football conversation (no, interconference drama doesn't count as the national football conversation). Until he does that with BCS appearances/wins, wins against marquee programs, winning records against at least a semi-challenging schedule, etc, then you can't even mention them in the same conversation. Bronco may or may not become a better coach than Edwards was, but to compare them now is laughable.

Noblepromise
PROVO, UT

Interesting comparison of BYU head coaches; Lavell Edwards is the leader in BYU Head Coach history when it comes to winning Conference championships, team playing in post season bowl games, number of seasons finishing as Division I-A top 25 team, and winning national championship. These measurements as well as number of bowl wins mean more than winning percentage.

How much influence does the Head Coach have on football scheduling? Is their consultation and if so, is the Coach asking to play teams that are not from conferences that are competing in the Bowl Championship Series (BCS)? Outside of BYU's current coach, all the previous head coaches were affiliated to a Conference and did these Head coaches have input on scheduling of non-conference opponents?

If one compares Coach Mendenhall (BYU) and Coach Whittingham (UofU) on the parameters mentioned above, UofU would have hired a more successful head coach for the same time period.

mightymite
DRAPER, UT

Is this an attempt to save bronco's job? Hmmm, who would have ever thought the dnews as pandering.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

Actually, I believe Coach Mendenhall is justified in being at the head of the list. Coach Edwards had allowed the program to becomre barely competitive by the end of his tenure leaving with a 6-6 record and losing consistently in the rivalry game to Utah. Coach Crowton enjoyed one great year and then the program took a real dive. Coach Mendenhall revive the program and made it competitive again. It is true that the team is not dominate as it was in the early 80's under Coach Edwards. But, it plays much better competition including over the past several years a very, very good TCU team and the occasional stellar Utah team. It will be interesting to see if Coach Mendenhall can keep the Y relevant now that it is independent with no BCS, no conference championships, and all the challenges to scheduling independence brings.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

A Utah fan perspective.

LaVell Edwards was and always will be the best. He is one of the greatest Utahns of all.

Although I find Bronco to be somewhat smug, he is the right man for the BYU job, and he has done well despite all of the naysayers.

Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

This article should be renamed, "WAC winning percentages"

CaptainFD
LITTLETON, CO

More Spin and Hype. How did the spin work out for BYU with the "better than every previous QB - freshman year stats -Jake Heaps"? Bronco is not in the same league as Lavell.

Mike in Texas
Cedar City, Utah

Too soon to make Bronco number one. Until he has kind of career that Edwards had he shouldn't even be ranked.

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