Small-market NBA teams facing tough times
@Large Tunaim sorry buddy but the Spurs got Lucky...their bad season
without Robinson...got them Duncan...if Robinson didnt have that injury...they
would never win a title...sometimes you need those sure fire draft picks to win
one...and that guy is loyal enough to stay...the reason why LA Clippers is not
folding...its because of the sponsorship...the TV deals...available in LA...its
not the same in Utah or Milwaukee or in Cleveland...i would still watch...since
im not paying anything to watch because im not in the US...so i just watch it on
the tube...but without the NBA its fine by me...but i still want the Jazz to win
lots of championships...but as long as there arent any games...i'd do the normal
stuff that i do...there's lots of things to do in this world anyway...
Why is DesNews not approving my comments? I didn't use any bad words and I
didn't say anything that isn't true. The fact of the matter is, the Millers have
seriously looked into moving the team to Las Vegas and they have also had talks
to sell the team to a couple that wanted to keep the Jazz in Utah. Where they
stand now, I don't know. But there is no question the team is a money pit and
Greg is not passionate about it like his dad was. Heck, he hardly ever even came
to games until his dad actually died. I'm sure the powers that be at DesNews
don't want people to know this though so they will censor this one as well.
The sport is too big time for Utah.
To the people who say Utahns can't afford Jazz tickets so we should send them to
a city who can: get real and quit being so melodramatic.There are
only 19,000 seats in the ESA. There are nearly 2 million people along the
Wasatch front. Something tells me that economic issues won't be a problem when
it comes to filling the arena. It's about wins. You win, people will come.
You lose, they won't. I seriously doubt the Jazz are going
anywhere. However, that's what Brooklyn thought about the Dodgers in 1957.
Anything is possible I guess.
If the Miller's cannot book a profit, they should sell. It is more fun to watch
kids that really care play for their high schools and colleges.
@ J-TX | 9:48 a.m. Nov. 21, 2011The NBA has the best athletes in the
world? Really? 4 words: Michael Jordan Curve ball. There are like 3
NBA games a week. Heck, even MLB plays 5 to 6 times per week.No way
is the NBA as physically demanding and stressful as the NFL. As much
as I detest DeSean Jackson now & Deion Sanders back in the day, their
diva-like antics pale in comparison to the average NBA players. As
for your listing of Hockey scores, you could easily be describing 2 or 3 soccer
games with your listing of scores. At least, in the NHL, you can hit people.
Soccer is like remedial outdoor hockey @ 1/2 speed.
I would love to see the Jazz fold or for them to leave SLC and move to Seattle.
Call in the scabs! There is no shortage of skilled basketball
players in this nation. I'll wager that you could find enough good players to
field all the teams and then some for $50,000 a piece... little lone millions.
LivinLarge, I don't know if you intended to, but you just stated everything that
is wrong in the NBA. The large market teams have an incredible advantage over
small market teams. Small market teams don't have much of a chance to keep the
"stars" of the league let alone trying to get one via free agency.I am not sure what will end up happening with the Jazz and the NBA. The
Jazz have done pretty well considering the disadvantages against small market
teams. I hope they stay in Utah with the Millers owning them.However, with no NBA, I have saved some money and have really been enjoying
the NFL and college football and basketball. Life is good.
Garbage!The Jazz are going nowhere, they're staying right here in
SLC. Most teams in the NBA have turned-in sluggish income statements the past
few years, the latest CBA was terrible. The NBA won't settle on business as
usual. On top of that, the Jazz have mismanaged their salary cap a little the
past 2 years, they have already fixed that (thank you AK). The
future appears strong. We have a ton of good players, and an amazing fan
base.I repeat, the Jazz are going nowhere.
The only reason I go to Jazz games, 5 or 6 a year, is to see the talent from the
other NBA teams. The Utah Jazz really is a backwater NBA town and never will
have the horsepower of the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, etc. Franchises like the Jazz
will really take a huge hit if the season is cancelled, HUGE!
I used to like the NBA but no more. Too many guys who came right out of high
school and were paid 100 million right out of the gate. Unsustainable. Also if
you notice the NBA has less and less who can actually shoot the ball anymore.
Most players are just dunkers with big shoe contracts. Jimmer will be a throw
back to the better days of the NBA. I have no interest in watching regular
season games anymore and really don't even tune in until the later playoff
rounds. Games are way too expensive and there aren't any great players anymore.
I can't see the NBA coming out of this lost season on any sort of positive note.
NBA basketball is boring, period. There is no team concept. They came up with
the defensive three second rule so you can't play a true zone defense. The
college game is exciting, and teams have to be strong in all level of the games.
There are no hack-a-shaq rules made to protect a star's weakness, and they don't
make eight players on the court a sideshow to the main attraction of a
one-on-one matchup.I submit to you that life would be so much better
without the Jazz. There would be a lot more attendance at college games.
Youngsters would see technically sound basketball. We wouldn't have many players
declining to play on the Olympic team. After the new rules, small market teams
will be doomed to fail anyway. Increasing prices with decreasing performance,
only a matter of time before fans stop going.I agree with IMAN. Make
a bid for the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Phoenix Coyotes. Those are some
entertaining sports. I can't respect a sport that plays music by Nu Shooz during
live action. I'd rather watch curling than the NBA--SERIOUSLY.
Checketts was the guy that said the lock-out was over they had an agreement. I
wouldn't put too much stock in his ability to predict who will do what.
I could care less about the over-paid school yard boys playing basketball and
making their millions, but I do not want the Millers hurt.The
Millers have done more for the State of Utah in the past decade or so than any
other person or organization. They are a pillar of humanity in our state and
for their sake I hope that do not find them in a position of having to sell the
team, but if they do, my respect will still remain the same. Which is more than
I have for the self-serving players.
IMAN said, "Utah should do everything they can to get NFL and NHL
franchises. Both sports are far more exciting and the display of athletisism in
those sports greatly exceeds basketball."Let's take these one
at a time:Utah should do everything they can to get NFL and NHL
franchises. Too small to support NFL. NHL maybe would survive, but let me ask
- do you have minor league hockey that is thriving? In big markets, not only do
the major sports all thrive (look at Dallas), but their suburbs support minor
league teams. Our small town of 55K population has both arena FB and minor
league hockey.Both sports are far more exciting (yeah, NOT. Waiting
30-45 seconds in-between 7-second segments of action in the NFL cannot compare
to the fast-paced high-flying scoring in the NBA. In Hockey, with final scores
like 1-0, 2-1, 2-0, it's a yawn-fest.) and the display of athletisism in those
sports greatly exceeds basketball. (NBA has the best atheletes in the world.
even bench players can run for hours and jump 11 feet high to dunk. NFL players
would die if they ran like that.)
bravesirsparrow, you always crack me up. You bash Jazz fans for their
"vitrio", for pent up anger? It's called passion my son.You
really need to get out and attend a few games back east.It's a big world
out there sonny!
The players getting 57% BRI (tickets, TV, concessions, etc) is a foul. What is
a bigger foul though is calling 57% of that go to players and allowing large
market teams to keep much of that BRI while not distributing it evenly. It's
like saying the players get 57%, big markets get 35%, small markets get the
remaining 8% to compete. It needs fixing and as much as I would love to see the
Jazz play again, I'll miss a season to see a fair system installed.
Hopefully TV networks here in Utah will do everything possible to televise all
major college remaining football and all of the basketball season. Then I and
many others will get their fix for sports and the NBA greeds can argue and fight
until the 2nd coming of you know who for all I am concerned. Accept NFL like
contracts NBA or your days of financial successes are toast. This whole
guarantee "everything" for the players, agents, media and owners
leaving out the payee(the public) will kill the goose that laid that golden egg!
I already miss the Jazz and agree with this article that the system is completly
broken for small market teams. People say the Jazz enter into bad contracts,
what they do not realize is that NBA small markets have to overpay in almost all
cases in order to keep anyone that develops into a star. The Jazz have made
trades in the past where the player has refused to even show up! They are at a
disadvantage finacially but also geograhically to big city teams. NBA players
usually come from these big cities and want to return to them so brush off the
teams that draft them. Some critics point to teams like Chicago that did not
pay as much as the Jazz did last year but went deep into the playoffs. D-Rose
however is still on his rookie contract adn will command a max contract in the
near future. Several other on their team will be in a similiar situation.Revenue sharing would go a long way (in this I agree with the players).
It the Lakers had to split %50 of their $3B TV deal with small market teams they
would over spend far less.
My only concern when the Jazz are gone (either by extinction of the NBA or sale
of the team) is where will Jazz fans go to release all that pent-up anger?
Seriously, in my entire life I've never heard so much vitriol spewed en masse as
I've heard at Jazz games. I've been to NBA games in many other cities and it's
not half as bad as it is here. All you Jazz fans will have to go somewhere else
to act like spoiled children and say/do things you would never do by yourselves.
I have a question for all you whiners who are complaining about the possibility
of the Jazz leaving Utah. How did the Jazz get to Utah in the first place?
With these ridiculous contracts the players want, sell the organization and
bring in an NFL team!
Lds liberal, yeah right. Checketts knows more than you and he says the millers
won't sell. And even if they did there are a lot of potential buyers who would
keep the team in utah
Just wondering. If your home in Utah is in foreclosure and/or if you are up to
your eyeballs in debt, if your don't have food storage, if you don't have
savings, if you are wondering how you are going to get the money to pay for
Christmas, etc., is it OK to purchase tickets to the Jazz games? I really think
that many Utahans cannot afford the games anyway, so send the team to a City
that can, if there is such a city in today's economy.
To the owners and players, It's all about the $$$It's a business and a job
to them.Fans are the only one's who "feel" any sense of
loyalty.Trust me, The fans in Seattle wanted the Sonics to
stay there, by the owners got alot more money moving the franchise to
Oklahoma.Follow the money -- The Jazz in Utah will be gone.Besides -- That's business,Free Market,and
Capitalism....everything Utahns say they support....loyalty and good of the fans
and the local economy be darned.
NBA is as good as gone if they don't settle their differences. Time for Utah to
look for an alternative!!!
@iman"Most fans polled nationally could care less if the NBA
folds".Where are you getting that statistic? I know there are
fair weather fans in every sport but true NBA fans like me do not want the NBA
to fold. Many fans are upset with the lockout and have issues with both player
and owner greed in this lockout, but are hopeful that things will get resolved
so our teams can get back on the floor.To state that both NHL and
NFL are more exciting is just your opinion. While I would love to have an NFL
team in Utah that is probably not going to happen in my lifetime, and I could
care less about NHL ( that is my opinion only too).I can sit this
year out watching NBA games if it will truely help the smaller market teams in
the future, but I for one want the game back again as soon as possible.
@romorgI agree with you for the most part, however, if the team
didn't go into the tax range so much, would they get as many fans? This year is
a bad example, as the newer deals were bad deals. The Jazz had to try something
to win and get Williams to stay, but that just didn't work out at all. At least
AK's contract is freed up. Maybe the Jazz can get him back for a good deal and
get rid of a couple of other contracts to get under the cap. After that,
hopefully the new guys on the team from the dwill trade last season and the new
drafts can make something happen to generate fan interest and give the team a
positive outlook. The team has a good base, just a few bad deals are killing the
IMANSpeak for yourself. I can't watch the NFL or NHL as it is. I
want Basketball. Those other sports can fold and die.
This is terrible writing. The story starts off based ona false premise."The ongoing NBA lockout situation presents a dilemma for the Utah Jazz
and their fans.Everybody wants basketball to be played, not delayed by a
labor mess."This is a flat out inaccuracy. Most sports fans
polled nationally could care less if the NBA folds. If the NBA somehow survives
this "labor" dispute(doubful) and the Jazz get sold it's simply the
free market in action. Utah should do everything they can to get NFL and NHL
franchises. Both sports are far more exciting and the display of athletisism in
those sports greatly exceeds basketball. Sports fans in UT. would forget about
basketball in a hurry if they had those two great professional sports to watch.
Claiming that the Millers will sell because they lost 17 mil last year is
ridiculous. They lost 17 mil because they chose to extend Memo's contract for
two years at over 10 mil per year and they gave Raja over three mil per year for
three years. Those were both very stupid moves. Memo was clearly sliding
before that extension and he's a center that doesn't play in the post or defend.
Raja hadn't done anything in years and it was insane to give in to his demands
for a three year contract. Forget the AK contract (decision made
years ago), just the Memo and Raja deals cost about 14 mil per year. Then add
to that the matching money the Jazz had to pay over the cap and the money they
would have received for being under and you have profitability. The Jazz
willingly went over the cap with a full knowledge of what it meant to their
bottom line.Why would the Millers sell when they can so easily turn
a profit if they so desire?
Sounds like the hand the NBA dealt them was already a bad deal!
Personally, I think it's time for the NBA to hire Replacement Players and bring
back any former NBA players who are willing to play under the new rules.After all, who else is going to pay them an average of $5 million
dollars a year to play a game?