BYU football: Cougars feeling good as they face another off week


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  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    Duckhunter Hunter

    since when did the Sun or Alamo Bowl become the end all of bowl games? And playing the Buffs is basically a bye week. Any peewee team could beat them. the ONLY reason the Utesies have a winning record is because the latter part of their schedule is right up cupcake alley. the Pac has 2 maybe 3 legit teams. Stanford, USC and Oregon in that order, the rest are mediocre to pathetic.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 10:05 p.m.

    For you BYU fans that are giving up now, don't bother to renounce your fandom. You never were fans. A real fan stays through the good times and the bad times. If a six year history of winning seasons, most of them double-digit wins,is not enough to carry you through a bad year, you have no loyalty. As we see with Texas, Ohio State, Florida and Florida State, no program stays up for ever - they all have their ups and downs. Furthermore, everybody knew going into the season what the schedule was going to be. It is not easy to get a great, challenging schedule with only a few months warning.

    However, those of you who are bailing out because of growing pains, that's fine. It will make it easier for the rest of us to get better seats in our season ticket packages.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Nov. 21, 2011 6:47 p.m.


    Thanks for a straight answer!

    I do wish the ute team well. For some of the ute fans, those last three would be tough to swallow, liberally seasoned as any one of them would be with their own words.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 6:06 p.m.

    @ cougfanintx

    Ok so you get to keep all your bowl money from the Armed Forces bowl? What does that pay 1 mil? the PAC splits 12 way with 2 BCS bowls (Oregon & Stanford) which equals 34 mil... Divide that by 12. Then we divide the money from the other 5 bowls the PAC gets... And all of 5 of them pay more than the AF bowl. So the money Utah gets from the 2 PAC BCS invites far exceeds the money BYU gets from their bowl...That is not even including the other 5 bowl games the PAC gets. I think Utah's bowl options are superior...

  • GACougar Atlanta, GA
    Nov. 21, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    Until BYU beats someone with a winning record and is not embarrassed by the Utes then they have accomplished nothing. I no longer get excited about beating a bunch of nobodies.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 21, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    Duckhunter Hunter
    "Where will the Utes be playing, top to bottom what are your bowl options? All of the options are superior to BYU's invitation."

    It depends on how you define superior.

    If U define superior as how much money each school will make from their bowl appearance - BYU wins hands down since U get zero this year. Even in future years, we don't split our bowl money with 12 other teams. We keep 100%.

    If you define superior as the destination city, 99.9% of Americans would prefer to spend a few days during the holidays in Dallas than in El Paso (the Sun Bowl looks like the most likely option for U at this point).

    Please tell us your definition of superior, because I think BYU's bowl options are superior.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    Y Grad / Y Dad -- Options now are:

    Rose Bowl (complete longshot - but fun to dream)
    Alamo Bowl -- only if Oregon to Rose and Stanford to another BCS game
    Holiday Bowl -- good chance
    Sun Bowl -- also good chance
    Less likely - Vegas Bowl, New Mexico Bowl, Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Nov. 21, 2011 2:10 p.m.

    Duckhunter Hunter

    Pretty sure not or you would have answered the question. It was sincere, you owe me an honest answer.

    Because the Vegas bowl is not a better option than anything. We have years and years of Utes who told us so.

  • Duckhunter Hunter Alpine, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 12:30 p.m.

    "Where will the Utes be playing, top to bottom what are your bowl options?"

    All of the options are superior to BYU's invitation.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 12:02 p.m.

    For the trolls who continue to bash BYU schedule, the first year of Indy is what it is. By the way, their last two games they won by a combined score of 84 to 14. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSSED TO DO. Period. And to the trolls, Colorado, Washington State, Arizona, bragging that they may sneak into the Pac 10 championship game because USC is on probation, and we don't have to play Stanford or Oregon, is comical. I hope anyone but the UTES are in the Pac 10 championship game.......because honestly folks, it will be an embarrassment. You know...I used to cheer hard for all of our Utah schools, but Ute fans, you make it hard to root for you. And for you Ute fans that will tell me that all of you aren't like this....Sorry, one bad apple spoils the whole darn bunch. Same for Cougar nation. All of you are Band of Little Brothers.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Nov. 21, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    Thanks for playing, trolls!

    Now some of you under the bridge gang make yourselves useful. BYU fans have known where we would be playing since we bit six wins. Where will the Utes be playing, top to bottom what are your bowl options?

    I really WOULD like to see your team play for the roses. But I'd like to see some of YOU head to Las Vegas. And have ticket snafus. Couldn't happen to a more humble, worthy bunch of dorks.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    BYU is doing all it can - really. All of you fans who expect to see Michigan or Miami playing in Provo any time soon better return to reality. BCS conference teams usually schedule cup cakes for their non conf games or schedule against other BCS conferences where they have something to gain by winning. BYU isn't a cup cake and they aren't a BCS conference team so why play them?? Nothing to gain for most teams. To upgrade the schedule BYU is going to have to do so as road games and not home games. Expect more Idaho's etc.. for home games. The fact that sunday play was a factor for BYU not getting a serious look by the BIG 12 pretty much locks the Y out of any BCS conference so if I were betting I would expect the coming years to look pretty much like this year schedule wise. Not a pretty picture - especially as recruiting falls off as it most likely will over the next several years.

  • Duckhunter Hunter Alpine, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 11:43 a.m.

    "BYU will be playing Boise State to end the season every year for the next 12 years."

    The next 12 years? Where is this being reported?

    PAC-12 > Big Least

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2011 11:18 a.m.


    "How does Year 2 or Year 3 of Independence look as far as November scheduling?"

    Since the schedulea haven't been released yet, nobody knows for sure, but it's likely BYU will be playing Boise State to end the season every year for the next 12 years.

    Boise State > Colorado (it's not even close)

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2011 11:12 a.m.


    "Nothing like a bye during rivalry week..."

    Unlike Utah fans, at least BYU fans won't have to sit in the snow for four hours during their rivalry week bye.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    I confess I come away from this season disappointed. It's not the schedule, I think the BYU fans understand the challenges there. It's the fact that in the 4 biggest games of the year (one of which we won - at Ole Miss), we made soooo many mistakes, both offensively and defensively. And in the Utah game, we just did not show up. It was embarassing. The coaching staff has to improve, they have to figure out how to get the team ready for the big games. I dislike the Utes intensely, but give Whit credit that he tends to come up big in the important games. Bronco and staff should learn.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 11:08 a.m.

    BYU should have no problems with Hawaii this year. I think they are down to their 3rd string QB, and this is the weakest they have looked in years. USU rallied and beat them on the islands with their backup, I watched it on tv with my dad who is a big Aggie fan, so yeah now that BYU is playing better, and Heaps is finding a rhythm with his receivers, there should be no problems.

    Now on to bigger things. I heard Craig Bolerjack say that BYU was basically invited into the Big 12 but started making a lot of demands (the Sunday deal wasn't the hangup) and the Big 12 just stopped talking with them.

    Now the board is deciding whether to join the Big East. The church or BYU is not hurting for money, if the reports are true, BYU should have accepted the deal with the Big 12 and should accept the Big East deal now.

    If they don't, and keep the same 8 green-light games a year independent schedule, they will lose any respect and the recruiting will suffer. Take the deal--it worked out for the Jeffersons!

  • mac_clan3 PANGUITCH, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    The schedule hasn't been to BYU's advantage but for their first year of independence they had to make due with what came their way. They have beaten those opponents from the WAC the way they should have and they competed in the other games that not too many people thought they would win. Yes the Utah loss was really bad but for the most part BYU has played well this year. Look at some of the games they have coming next year though. Boise, Notre Dame, Texas, Utah who will be a lot better next year again, Oregon State who will be better and they will most likely put TCU on the schedule again. Stop hating on the Cougars because of who they are playing. It is part of the Independence process. At least they are doing what they should be doing against those teams.

  • fan in orem Orem, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    Remember when ute fans said that they were leaving BYU in their rearview mirrors now that they are in the PAC-10? When exactly does that kick in? I look forward to it.

  • CT98 Saint George, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    I think the players have high motivation going into this bye week. They have a family Holiday coming up with some down time to rest up and then an exciting game in the islands the first of December. A bowl appearance follows and I believe the Cougs will play very well the final two games of the year. As a fan I am much more excited to watch the next two games than I was to watch the previous two.

  • lvsportsfan Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 21, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    Duckhunter hunter:

    Are you implying that BYU should not be concerned with Hawaii? That they should overlook them? hmm...

    Additionally, I wonder if you have ever played competitive sports when you think suggest that BYU has nothing left to play for. You play to win, that should be enough.

    The utes have cu, who are arguably worse than Hawaii. Let's hope for your sake that the utes are "concerned" with them

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    Rikitikitavi - OK, How does Year 2 or Year 3 of Independence look as far as November scheduling?

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 21, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    Once Moniz (Hawaii QB) broke his leg, the Warriors became just another WAC team. This should be another easy win for the Cougs, but never overlook your opponent. Just ask Oklahoma State or Oklahoma what happens if you look beyond next Saturday.

    For the fans complaining about the November schedule, we knew the first two years of Indy would be like this. But hold on for December 30. It looks like the Cougs will get a pretty good C-USA opponent with either SMU or Tulsa. It should be a much better game than last year's bowl, and will likely be the fourth best team we face this year.

    I loved seeing Marshall run for a TD and Edwards catch a TD pass. On their last game at LES, we could not have scripted a better highlight for these two outgoing seniors.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Nov. 21, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    I am growing increasingly weary of so many fair weather fans. Get real folks, could any of YOU have pulled the proverbial rabbit out of the hat in YEAR ONE of independence? Give it a rest already.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Nov. 21, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    "After demolishing a pair of Western Athletic Conference opponents by a combined total of 84-14 in back-to-back games, BYU heads into another bye week." Interesting statement on two accounts: (1) A collective 84-14 scoring total over what level of opponents? Nothing said about this is the precise type of scoring that was expected against the level of competition we played; (2) WAC opponents. Enough said there. Certainly glad we're winning, but it's also ridiculous to have a bye the 2nd to last week of the season. BTW- Just spoke w/ my Cougs freshman son, and he said the feeling to his fingers has finally come back from Sat. night's game! I love my Cougs but would like to read a little more balanced, constructive criticism feedback about the program. I obviously realize such will likely never occur (I understand who owns the school and DN), but I can always wish.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 8:53 a.m.

    Nothing like a bye during rivalry week / Thanksgiving weekend to drive home how empty Independence is.

    On the bright side, the Bronco poll has the Cougs ranked in the top 25 this week.

  • Duckhunter Hunter Alpine, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 8:36 a.m.

    A 2nd bye week? What an interesting schedule! Bye weeks before 2 of your most difficult games: Idaho and Hawaii.

    Hawaii is not any good. I watched them play SJSU earlier this year and there are no real threats on either side of the ball. If you are expressing concern about the difficulty of this game you are either doing this for 1 of 3 reasons:

    1 - To kid yourself into thinking there is anything left to play for;
    2 - You really are concerned;
    3 - Coach speak

    If you answered 1, 2, or 1 & 2, then the BYU program is worse off than you thought.

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    Nov. 21, 2011 8:29 a.m.

    "Our team continues to improve" seriously, against PEE WEE Football Teams?

    Nov. 21, 2011 8:04 a.m.

    @flatlander: "BYU was not in one of those games and never will be again so as a fan I might as well move on. I did not even bother to stay up and watch on Saturday." Not really what I would call a fan. Good luck with your new team.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Nov. 21, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    If Bronco is happy and pleased with the last few games then why not join their conference and be king every year. There were some fantastic games the last couple of weekends with top teams playing each other and a lot on the line for each team. BYU was not in one of those games and never will be again so as a fan I might as well move on. I did not even bother to stay up and watch on Saturday.

  • One of Vai's Cousins DC, Washington
    Nov. 21, 2011 5:39 a.m.

    "We're not satisfied. Nor will we be satisfied after the bowl game," said linebacker Kyle Van Noy

    I think Kyle speaks for many BYU fans too. This season has felt so strange and empty compared to seasons past. I have to hand it to the coaching staff if they can somehow keep the players motivated and improving because from a fan's perspective I am more excited for the Spring game then the rest of this season's schedule. They should open up a few practices over the next couple of weeks just so fans could see some actual competition. Oh, the joys of independence!

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 21, 2011 2:11 a.m.

    Another bye? Were mighty BCS quality foes like Salt Lake Community College and Snow College busy this weekend?

  • localblue Sandy, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 12:41 a.m.

    Hawaii game will be fun. Unfortunately the other recent games have been yawners. Glad to get this first year of independence in the past. We need some more quality games and wins or it won't matter how much we are on tv. Let's take care of business and look to the future and better quality teams.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:18 p.m.

    cougs need to use the bye-week preparing for all of the intangibles going into the Hawaii game. I think it would help the Cougs a lot to go a few days earlier and get the trip to paradise distractions out of their system and game prep hard on Thursday and Friday going into game day.

  • SoCalTrueBlue San Diego, CA
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:52 p.m.

    There's a history for Hawaii playing over their heads when facing BYU at home. Cougar jet lag, Island humidity, and Pele anger over all the quality Polynesian players that opt for BYU can motivate Hawaii to play its best game of the year. BYU needs to take this game very seriously and not get behind in the first half.