Comments about ‘It's now time for 'occupiers' to hit the road’

Interesting the ruling that protesting can't take up permanent residence on public land by New York's supreme court.

I don't support Occupy's aims or don't relate with its populus, but I would defend their right to civil protest as long as they wanted to do so. Our Constitution gives them that right, and we must stick to the Constitution.

Regardless, their movement is slowly coming to an end. Hope their job hunt goes better than their attempts of corporate protest.

OWS is an attempt to educate the public in certain economic facts. Thanks to OWS the public actually understands that there is a 1 to 99 - that 1% hold 90% of the wealth in this country. The public has learned this - they didn't know it before (no they really didn't). Capitalism is entering its final phases, so expect to see more and more OWS and movements like it.

Remember when Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford's was shot in Tucson, Arizona?

Do you remember the continual calls for civility from President Obama and others?

Remember how journalists and bloggers were continually pointing fingers at Sarah Palin and others for allegedly encouraging violence against Democrats?

(As a side note, remember the fact that John Roll, the judge who was killed in the Tucson shooting was appointed to the bench by President George H.W. Bush? A fact that was rarely if ever mentioned by the mainstream news media)

Now, fast forward to this week when an Occupy Wall Street protestor was quoted as saying:

"Theyve got bricks, weve got rocks and in a few days youre going to see what a Molotov cocktail can do to Macys."

My my, how times have changed so quickly.

There is a Constitutional right to protest. There is, however, no Constitutional right to "occupy".

"The 1 percent of earners controls everything. Yeah, so?"

well there's the problem bud. It doesn't bother you, perhaps because you are benefitting from the system that benefits only a few.

You may be a lapdog of the 1 percent but really, they will kick you down the road as soon as your articles say something they don't like. Turn against the 1 percent and we'll see how long you work for the DN.

I live not far from Pioneer Park, and I used to occasionally take children there to swing on the playground equipment, or to play kickball on the grass. However, it is not a very desirable environment because the park has been essentially taken over by homeless people. Sometimes when the children were there, they heard or seen things that bothered them; rude and unnecessary things from irresponsible adults. For the past several weeks the Occupy people had taken up much of the park, and the environment there wasn't much better. At a minimum, people should not be allowed to camp in the park; stopping that activity does not deny anyone their free speech rights.

"It's time for occupiers to pull up stakes and get involved politically to see if their message resonates. My guess is it doesn't."

I think this is why they've taken to the streets. The political system is broken. Unless you're a Wall Street fat cat or big foreign oil company, your voice doesn't matter.

We use to be a government of, by, and for the people. Increasingly, it is one that favors the "job creators" so that they'll possibly create some jobs domestically to help the little guy. Unfortunately, the "free market" says creating jobs in America isn't profitable for Wall Street -- need to go to China and India instead.

Wall Street and the banks got a bail out, but Main Street didn't.

Our politicians worship and cater to the "free market" god and its Wall Street and banker servants. Those Americans not blessed by the free market god and left behind are simply perceived as leeches onto society.

"After 10 minutes or so of this, the villain, dressed in a suit and tie with pretend dollar bills attached the personification of the greedy banker was handcuffed and led away by another actor."

The image might have been depicting a greedy banker or it could have been a recreation of the picture recently shown of one Republican candidate, very popular in Utah, with his colleagues at Bain Capital showing that yery image - men in dark suits with paper currency falling out of their pockets who can't seem to wipe the smiles from their faces. It's a picture that camndidate undoubtedly would like to destroy but unfortunately it exists.

And that is the issue that Occuly Wall Street is protesting - not that capilalism is bad or that business is bad or that making money is bad - it is that politicians being bought and paid for with money that is obtained by creating misery for others is an image that is anathema to the ideals of the American experience.

Jay suggests that OWS "pull up stakes and get involved politically to see if their message resonates." I think that his article and others condemning OWS means it already has.

The conditions they are protesting have not been resolved. They do not need to hit the road. You just want the status quo, to be led down the primrose path to get more of what we have been getting.

It amazes me how the 1% seem to manage to get some of the 99% to argue against their best interests. The rich get richer, the middle class pays the price, the banks and Wall Street get their billion dollar bonuses on the backs of the taxpayers through bailout monies, and still the average citizen is to blame.
Unbelievable!

Reality says that a day-after-day protest this can't go on forever,
and it's difficult for the "working" class to show their support.

The Tea Party did massive ONE day turnouts, and of course were able to muster larger protests.

So, What I'd really, Really like to see is a WorldWide ONE day protest....

Heck - Even if only 8 BILLION people showed up, that would finally silence all the nay-sayers about who OWS really represents (the 99%) and who actaully supports them one and for all.

Here is what I do not understand about these OWS protesters. About 80% of all federal income taxes are paid by the wealthiest Americans while almost 50% of Americans pay no federal income taxes at all! Of all people, these OWS protesters should thank the rich for carrying them, paying the lions share of their entitlements and providing their welfare. Like bawling for steak with their mouths full of a free lunch! Reverse economics anyone? It sure worked well in Europe hasn't it? If the "rich" are punished, who will pay the bills?

ClarkHippo - Your suggestion that the OWS protestors are not civil or not peaceful is inaccurate. The individual you mentioned who threatened Macy's with a molitav cocktail was arrested, as he should have been. But the images shown in so many newpapers and websites of police clashing with protestors is only showing one thing - that police are the perpetrators and protestors are the victims of brutality that has not been inflicted on protectors since the civil rights movement or the Vietnam war protests (remember Kent State?)

There is an organized effort by the corporate owned and operated media to paint the protestors as harmful to America, harmful to communities. Jay's essay is an example of that very effort, complete with the picutre of protestors clashing with police. But just look at that picture and see who is losing the battle. You want civility? No OWS protestor shows up at a rally armed with automatic weapons like the Tea Party protestors but look at the difference in the repsonse from police (maybe the police were afraid of the Tea Party protestors.) The bottom line - OWS is representing the common man but the power brokers want to stop them.

Mr. Evensen, the point you fail to understand is that those of us who support and understand the 99% movement already know that the political system is corrupt and it would not be effective to just call our "representative" to get things done. It has come to this because protesting in the streets is the only way to be heard.

If you want to publish articles in a "newspaper" please do your research.

"squirt" is so right. Read Sen. Coburn's (R-OK) report, "Subsidies of the Rich and Famous", released this week. This is not a party issue. The tea party crowd got sucked into the GOP, so reform is not going to come from them.

The Tea Party and OWS both occupy the extreme ends of the political spectrum. They both have points to bring to our national conversation. I think it's interesting though that the many seem to embrace the extremism of the Tea Party in their everyday lives and put down what the OWS is even trying to say. I don't think the conflict is going to go away because the ideas, the problems, and system aren't going away either. Maybe it's time we all start talking and solve some of the issues both sides bring up.

I agree with Jay Evensen, time for 'Occupiers' to hit the road, head to Washington DC. If you were a member of the "so called" Tea Party/GOP Congress, are against spending, aka, "ENTITLEMENTS", as they call them, would you put in a appropriation Bill, tucked into this $182 billion measure intended to keep the federal government running through Dec., a Federally funded, subsidy package, for a Union, $50 million dollars used to hire, provide housing and food for more than 4,000 additional law enforcement officers from across the region who will provide security at a event and fund several other bureaucrat agencies in 2012 ?. Where's those GOP jobs for us?. The middle-class are hurting, the poor get poorer, more homeless on the streets, the elderly suffer, the disabled and Veteran's rot, the hungry rot, Congress could care less about them. That made the Republican National Convention, to be held in Tampa next year happy. By using Homeland Security as a pawn pork bill title. But, where's all the monies RNC collected for their own bash?. Get it off of the Koch Brother's, and K Street, not us tax payers.


"NO Subsidies of the Rich and Famous."

I had hoped that after this article some one in this forum would have been able to bring up a mission statement about what these people are protesting against, and what they want to accomplish! I've followed these events with interest since they started and haven't seen any form of mission statement yet. How can I determine if they represent me or not? Well, back to work.

TO "LDS Liberal | 7:09 a.m." the problem is that the OWS protestors do not represent the 99% that they claim to.

They are anarchists, socialists, communists, marxists, or are from other political ideologies that would destroy capitalism. They don't represent conservatives.

Do you want what they want? A world that is one of the many flavors of socialism (Not United Order), and is run by tyrants?

"pay no attention to that man behind the man behind the current" (Wizard of Oz)

Remember in the Wizard of Oz the great and "phony" Oz had to distract Dorthy and friends away from the truth. Well today we have the same thing going on in Washington. The great and phony Barack has to attempted to distract folks away from his sick economy by orchestrating this union funded occupy movement all in an attempt to fuel the "hate the rich" fire that is so important to Obama going forward. This occupy nonsense is about as genuine as professional wrestling but much more entertaining. You have hippe want-ta-be's everywhere carrying with them the same stench, drugs, filth, and clueless rhetoric. I fully expect Obama to conger up some other distraction once this occupy sillyness dies out because the man has no record to run with for 2012 - just plenty of distractions all in a hope that people in this country are dumb enough and gullible enough to follow along...