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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 15 2011 7:50 p.m. MST

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christoph
Brigham City, UT

Don't go---those teams are as bad as the teams the Y is playing this year (the exception being West Virginia and Utah State)

Canyontreker
TAYLORSVILLE, UT

AZ Blue & Red
If there is a bigger mission for the Mormon Church than the players should take off the uniform with the prophet's name before they talk to the press. I can't imagine a missionary getting on TV and saying I hate other groups of people. There are a lot of new people in the East to upset with such players and fans.
Perhaps you can learn from the Olympics. Team USA would be disciplined if they said they hate a particular country, all their fans, and everything associated with that country. BYU fans have upset the west with self-righteous remarks like no-Sunday play, because nobody plays college football on Sunday. BYU should make a lot of changes on treating guests before they join the Big East or your mission is not in line with your Church.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

SLC BYU Hater

Sorry to disappoint you, but your quest to get BYU to abandon sports is a miserable failure. You should consider finding a new obsession.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

Sagarin Rankings

Big East - West
Boise 7
Houston 27
BYU 53
SMU 57
Air Force 68
Louisville 71
Average 47.17

PAC South
USC 17
ASU 28
Utah 34
UCLA 61
Arizona 80
Colorado 111
Average 55.17

Big 12 24
SEC 37
B1G 49
PAC 50
New Big East 50
Big East 57
ACC 60
New ACC 61

Fubecao
Bellevue, WA

The thing I like about independence is a different schedule every year. Playing a home-and-home series against Houston or Louisville would be fun, but I don't want to play them EVERY YEAR. The 2011 and 2012 schedules are the result of last-minute scheduling, so you can't compare them to the potential long-term Big East schedule. I am anxiously awaiting 2013 (Notre Dame, Texas, Georgia Tech, Boise State, Washington State...) and beyond, and wouldn't want that messed up by having to play the likes of SMU every year.

Viva la independencia!

COUGARNATE
Lyman, WY

Playing Boise State on the last weekend of November is not a bad thing. Playing Air Force and Navy would be great too.

golfrUte
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

One Ute fan's perspective: I would have loved to see BYU in the PAC 12 with us to keep the rivalry tied to the same conference. My 2nd choice for the Y would have been the Big 12 just based on the strength of the football programs. That being said, if the Big East makes financial sense for the Y, I hope it works out and I hope the rivalry game with the Utes continues. No one could have predicted the volatility in conference realignments, each school has to make the decisions they feel are in their own best interest. I'm thrilled the Utes are in the PAC 12 and hope BYU joins an AQ conference. No way the Big East is going to lose AQ status with their population based political clout. Both schools in AQ conferences, plus the rivalry game continues = my best case scenario.

UU702
Layton, UT

The big east had last pick on the playground and then boise state asked if their little brother could play too. I love it!

Utah'95
FPO, AE

Snack PAC,

You are right - "Pac 12 teams are fully capable of losing to cupcakes." But that's not the same thing as the Pac 12 being "filled with cupcakes.

I-am-I
South Jordan, UT

This is only a good deal if the Big East keeps it's automatic bid. Otherwise BYU goes back to the same position it had in the Mountain West. (for those that don't remember) They were in a conference of teams that lack big football relevance. I think we've all heard this before, "well they are undefeated but they haven't really played anyone that good." How many teams in the big east are ranked in the top 25 this year? How many of those are sticking around? I think the likelihood of keeping that automatic bid that expires in 2013 is iffy.

Levin
Hightstown, NJ

@Mormon Ute: I'm not sure how Boise State's conditional acceptance would "burst some BYU fans' bubbles". We know what our team is: reasonably desirable, somewhat high-maintenance. The cost/benefit analysis didn't make sense for the Pac 10 and Big 12. Now BYU may find a partner who is willing to meet our requirements.

I'm just excited for the possibility of seeing BYU in New Jersey every couple years.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

Utah'95

Losing to cupcakes suggests that most PAC 12 teams wouldn't have fared any better if they'd played the supposedly "weaker" schedules of the teams Utah homers are whining about.

BP
Salt Lake City, UT

I think its interesting that they are considering future full membership for the football only teams. I can't imagine BYU trying to compete in Big East basketball (though the idea of being a Big East basketball team intrigues me).

Why would the Big East lose their AQ status? Most of the programs they are picking up are either on the rise, or playing their best football in years. UCF may be the exception, but Florida is such a hot recruiting spot that their poor showing this year can be forgiven. SMU has had two decent years, and will be the last team that beat TCU this year. Houston will probably play in a BCS game (unless SMU beats them), Air Force and Navy are decent, and let's not forget about Boise State (the BCS would love to have them in an AQ conference, just to stop the "What about Boise State" argument that seems to pop up every year). Remember, the Big East has always seemed to maintain AQ status, even when West Virginia was their only decent team. One could argue Cincinnati has been the best in the Big East for the last 5 years, and they're staying.

Bubble Boy
Salt Lake City, UT

We cougar fans are not obsessed with Utah! We are not holier than thou! And we definately are not DELUSIONAL!

The big least will definitely be the best BCS conference and have the biggest payout! We never wanted to be in the PAC 12 or the Big 12. Really.

ksampow
Farr West, Utah

This shows what a ridiculous state of affairs the BCS has created for college football. The BIG EAST will have many schools from the Mountain West region and probably even some from the West Coast region. And just to mess things up even more, the WESTERN division will probably include a school from Florida.
Does any one else long for the days of regional conferences and local rivalries?

CougarKeith
Roy, UT

Well, AQ status, no SUNDAY PLAY, keep the BYUtv Network, and the ESPN Contract, be in a 14 team "Super Conference", and ssy "NO"? I can't say that I see that one coming around the corner. Do I think the Big East as it's new make-up will be equal to the PAC-12? Some years yes, some years no, once in a while SUPERIOR. I do see a NATION WIDE CONFERENCE building itself up RECRUIT wise, facility wise, strength wise, and power wise. It will grow as a league, and as a Conference to become better and better! Look at Miami of Florida and Boston College, former BIG EAST Teams! As they grew they out grew the Conference! We could KILL Conecticut, even last years Automatic Bowl Team! Face it, THEY SUCKED!!! Houston deserves it, Boise State Deserves it, and BYU all Deserve it! Air Force has an oportunity to get in too! As far as joining with the other sports in the future, I think that is GREAT! I think BYU would match up well with the East Coast Schools in Basketball within a couple years for the BIG EAST Basketball Championship! I Say Go For It!!!

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

Good luck cousins. I hope it works out for you. Being in a real conference is a lot of fun.

A Ute fan.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

A Rational post redux

Reshuffling the Sagarin Rankings

BE Boise 7
PAC USC 17
BE Houston 27
PAC ASU 28
PAC Utah 34
BE BYU 53
BE SMU 57
PAC UCLA 61
BE Air Force 68
BE Louisville 71
PAC Arizona 80
PAC Colorado 111

Obviously, all of the talk about the PAC 12 being so "dominant" is just a lot of hot air.

It could be easily argued that the Big East - West is a better division than the PAC 12 - South, especially when the best PAC 12 team is on probation.

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

BYU will stay independent, or go to whatever conference on their own terms, unlike utah, who was happy as a lap dog just to be chosen as an afterthought.

Pac12Proud
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Bubble Boy | 11:20 a.m. Nov. 16, 2011
"We cougar fans are not obsessed with Utah! We are not holier than thou! And we definately are not DELUSIONAL!

The big least will definitely be the best BCS conference and have the biggest payout! We never wanted to be in the PAC 12 or the Big 12. Really."

That's funny!!

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