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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 15 2011 7:50 p.m. MST

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NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

They would probably be in the BIG12 by now don't you think based on your ramblings?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

cougar76:

"Naval lint needs to get a life. You spend way too much time researching ways to put down BYU and its fans."

It's really no trouble at all. It's not like I have to search far and wide in order to do so. All I have to do is read the unending string of frantic and emotional cougar fantasies, and retort with facts.

Cougar fans like you hate facts. You all seem to be okay with the myth that the Y was somehow injusticed for not going BCS bowling back in 2001, but become all of a sudden inflamed when you're brought back down to reality that it had nothing to do with persecution. It's as if you cougar fans RELISH being picked on.

And as much as you all hate me, if you guys wouldn't make up such ridiculous figments to justify your overall irrelevancy - or mediocrity AT BEST - I wouldn't have anything to laugh at you about. You suggest I need to get a life, but I'm not the one spending the majority of my time going around fabricating these steady streams of insane alternatives to reality.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

I have to laugh at all the cougar fans on these threads that would presume Utah fans are jealous, or would be agonizing over, a decision by the Y as to whether or not they'll join the Big East. The TRUE agony was when Y fans were fretting whether or not the Utes would get an invitation to the Pac-10, which was then followed up by the soul-crushing torment of Utah's invitation and acceptance.

Because the Pac-12 is substantially > than the conference which had been referred to by every MWC team member over the past 7-yrs as the "Big Least", and due to the Pac-12's TV package is significantly > than every other conferences' at this point in time....we have nothing to envy the Y over. No fret. No fear. Not by Ute fans anyway.

If the Y joins the Big East, they'll still lag substantially behind their big brothers on the Hill. The only thing that will change will be the Y will then have TWO big brothers north of Provo.

Special thanks to Boise State.

cougar76
Raleigh, NC

Navel lint. Sorry I touched a nerve. But let me point out that I made no references or claims about anything that you are castigating in your rant at me. All I said was that your innumerable posts say you have an obcession with BYU and spend too much time on something that shouldn't be important to you. So, get a life.

giantfan
Farmington, UT

There's no doubt that Naval has an unhealthy obsession with the team he loves to hate. He's like a jaded lover, something deep and very personal has offended him in the past and he obviously doesn't like to talk about it because he won't ever answer a post that asks him about it, even though he never misses an opportunity to respond to other things with "facts".

My guess is he got a great idea to create a calendar of return missionaries with their shirts off. It didn't sit too well with the church and the university he was attending. It turns out said university would not honor his degree even though he had finished the course work, because he was not in good standing with the church at the time of graduation. It seems he stopped going to church and since that is a stipulation for someone receiving their degree--and he knew that because it's all part of participating at the University, the whole eclesiastical endorsement thing--he was denied. That didn't sit too well with him so he's been bitter ever since.

Now maybe that's not his exact case, but it's probably something along those lines.

giantfan
Farmington, UT

Naval,

Interesting that you're so concerned with "facts" (or your definition of facts) but whenever someone presents a fact to you, you're mysteriously silent about it. So what about Duckhunter's citation from above at 9:38 a.m. this morning about Big East officials visiting Provo for months? Since it so obviously shows Big East interest, something you claim never existed prior to Boise State being invited, how do you explain away that one? Should be interesting...

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Two things.

naval lint will never respond to what I posted giantfan because it proves him wrong, not that any of us needed any more proff of that. The second thing is that based on naval lints moniker I wonder if his problem with BYU was more a a moral issue, and not the one most of us would have. LOL!

If I remeber correctly he posted a few months ago about being a former BYU fan and attending games there, so it sounds like he wasn't able to live up to the standards, no surprise there, and is now bitter about it. The only thing he can really do is show his bitterness on these boards. It is truly pathetic but it is also highly entertaining to read his half truths, distortions, fabrications, frantic postulations, and out right lies. He actually represents the university of utah and its "fan"base accurately.

I actually really enjoy it.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

giantfan:

My issue with the Y has already been asked and answered ad nauseum over the past several years. So again, in short, I was a student at the Y my freshman year. I objected to the Y's disdain for the 1st amendment, their lack of academic freedom, and their overall arrogance and sanctimoniousness. I just didn't want to be a part of that community, so I completed my education at the U.

"Interesting that you're so concerned with 'facts' (or your definition of facts) but whenever someone presents a fact to you, you're mysteriously silent about it."

Ah...typical hypocritical coug. Go to pg. 11 of this comment thread, and read the final sentence of my 2:31 p.m. post [3rd post from the top]. Mysteriously silent? I think not. "Mysteriously silent" would have been YOU when I busted up your "revisionist history" wherein the cougars were eliminated from a BCS bowl back in '01 prior to the conclusion of their season [pg 14 at 11:08 a.m. and 11:17 a.m.]. Why are now so silent about that?

giantfan
Farmington, UT

Naval,

Oh but Duckhunter did cite evidence. If you google "sltrib" and "jay drew" and the first couple lines of his above quotation, you'll find it. Clear as day. Care to refute now?

As far as your earlier post to me, I didn't dispute your "facts" because you were missing the point I was trying to make. Utah owes thanks to other schools that went before them that allowed the BCS rules to be laxed so they could "bust the BCS" in 2004, and one of the schools they owe a thanks to is BYU for 1996 and 2001. But we all know that the BYU-hating Ute faithful out there would sooner kick their dog than do such a thing.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@naval lint

I knew you wouldn't directly respond. LOL!

cougar76
Raleigh, NC

Okay everyone. Lets lay off Naval lint. In his last post he resorts to referencing three of his previous posts to validate himself. He has obviously been reduced to clutching at straws.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

What is taking so stinking long to accept this invitation??? Geeze, Get on with it aready.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

giantfan:

"Oh but Duckhunter did cite evidence. If you google 'sltrib' and 'jay drew' and the first couple lines of his above quotation, you'll find it. Clear as day. Care to refute now?"

If YOU googled that Jay Drew article, you'd see it was written earlier this month. My dispute with Duckhunter was initiated well before that article was written...in other words, well before there was ever evidence the Big East met with cougar officials. Cougar fans have made NUMEROUS bogus claims about AQ invitations, and have perpetuated it ad nauseum on these threads. Therefore, I must ask for evidence to ensure which details are accurate, and which are frantically and emotionally made up. After TCU was invited to the Big XII, Holmoe admitted they had not been approached by the Big East. So who should one believe? Holmoe admitting the Big East never approached them? Or a cougar-homer Jay Drew article that hadn't even been written yet?

And as for refuting now....that that question had already been asked and answered. See AGAIN my last paragraph from my previous post on this page at 3:27.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

giantfan:

I did not miss your point about the cougars paving the way for other non-AQs to bust the BCS. You suggested the '01 cougars were evidence that the system that existed in '04 did not exist in '01. But it did. So you were wrong. And, since there WAS no BCS system back in '96, that cougar team did nothing for us either. Just because the cougars finished #5 in the country that year, that does not mean they were responsible for paving the way for the rest of us. If it did, then Utah would have paved the way too seeing as how they finished #8 in the country just 2 yrs earlier. And that '94 team beat 4 ranked teams. The '96 team beat only 2; one of which, #22 Wyoming, was in O/T. Ooooh....beating a #22-ranked WAC team. Way to go you "world-beater" you.

No, the cougars did not pave a road along a path upon which they've never trod.

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