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  • radically_independent Orem, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2011 10:43 a.m.

    What I don't get is the group who is complaining about Obama's comments are the very ones who on these boards complain that over 1/2 this country is lazy, only want the entitlements, and are bent on taking this country toward socialism so they don't have to work.

    So which is it? Or are you just complaining to complain.

    I think we know the answer to that question.

  • pacificblue55 SANDY, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 4:24 p.m.

    there are some very ignorant commenters here who think Romney was not lying when he accused Obama of saying the American people are lazy. read the whole context of his speech and you'll find out that he was talking about the govt. for not aggresively seeking to secure jobs for the Ameican people. it is obvious that Romney a temple recommend holder has deliberately lied to get some political points.

  • misplaced American Fork, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    If the President's comment are read in context it is clear that the Romney campaign took the President's comments out of context and intentionally misrepresent them. The president said that the U.S.(and in the context he was speaking, he was talking about the U.S. government, specifically past and present U.S. presidents "had been a little bit lazy in attracting overseas business investment"). This intentional mischaracterization does not speak well of the Romney campaign's honesty. And even if the comment were as Romney dishonestly tries to characterize it, is America perfect? Are above any criticism? Is the U.S. without fault in try to attract new overseas business? The Romney campaign and it's supporters can be clearly criticized for embracing dishonesty for purely political purpose.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 18, 2011 3:29 p.m.

    SSOLDMAN - much of what you say is sound, but using arguments like "the falling dollar".... that just doesn't hold any truth. The only place the dollar is falling is in Glenn Beck's silly presentation he made (and advertiser supported by a Gold Brokerage). Fact is the dollar is very stable right now, and if anything is getting stronger - which concerns US firms more as it raises the cost of US based goods and services abroad.

    The other thing you do is put Germany and Greece in the same economic condition. The ironic thing is the two couldn't be further apart. Germany currently is leading the world in economic output growth and is funding much of the Euro zone bailout.

    It is fine to have a differing view on much of this, but misrepresenting facts doesn't help anyone. It is too bad that in today's society the media of all sorts is not held responsible for their distortions and sometimes all out lies. But since winning at all cost (or earning money at all cost) seems to the rule of the day, I don't see that part changing anytime soon.

    Nov. 18, 2011 9:28 a.m.

    Socialism does not work.(It didn't even work among the most righteous, with the united order.) Communism does not work. Any Government that does not allow free trade and the acqisition of wealth by the ambition of the regular population, will fail. Redistribution of wealth is morally wrong and stealing.No one has the right to someone elses hard earned money. People want freedom to live as they wish.

    Nov. 18, 2011 9:17 a.m.

    Those who actually employ people are not "lazy". They are very nervous, between government regulations, logistic costs, and the falling value of the dollar; they have the need to be careful. At this moment in time, those who have a job are lucky to be employed.
    The continued harassment and taxing of American business will stop employment.
    Unless of course you all want to work for the government.
    Then we can have communism and work two weeks for a set of hand towels, like the people of the Soviet Union did.
    Or we could have socialism like Germany, Greece and many other European countries ;and go bankrupt as a nation trying to provide for all those who won't work. (As a matter of fact we are going broke!)

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 17, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    the only thing America has become lazy at is being informed citizens and screening horrible candidates as in the 2008 election. Lazy in understanding what a candidate actually believes in. Lazy in understanding a candidates shady past. I would suspect that after 4 nightmarish years of Obama folks won't be lazy anymore...not in 2012.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 17, 2011 8:46 a.m.


    While in college, I didn't like doing research papers. As I sail into old age, I realize that researching and self thinking is an important skill. It clears the fog from sensationalized news reporting. I agree with you on the media.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 17, 2011 6:49 a.m.

    Worf - I can't post links here but just do a search on "brazil oil contracts". Many of the contracts awarded are listed there in either press announcements and articles. Plenty of industry coverage out there. The other thing you will find is that the 2 Billion is a drop in the bucket of what is being spent. This money was to secure (guarantee) loans to purchase US based services and products. The overall budget for exploration in that region is over 200 Billion. From FSBOs to subsea pipelines, there is a lot going on there.

    What is frustrating is the cherry picking of information to make news sound more sensational. News across all sources is being sensationalized trying to out shock the broadcast just down the dial. It has always been done, but the mass volume of it is becoming overwhelming. Even the WSJ have stopped being the unbiased reporters of business.

    Taking comments like Obama made and twisting them to make headlines is part of what they do now. And if Obama looses and a Republican wins, they will do the same again - and I will be against it then as well.

    Honesty should rule the day.

  • bluejean Farmington, UT
    Nov. 17, 2011 12:36 a.m.

    When Obama talks about America getting too lazy, he should know. He speaks from experience. His lead from behind with too little too late solutions have led us into a crippled economy. Let's just hope the Supreme Court steps in to save us from death by Obama-care.

    Romney is right to expect a little more positive cheerleading from our Commander in Chief instead of airing America's dirty laundry in front of world leaders.

  • liberate Sandy, UT
    Nov. 16, 2011 11:08 p.m.

    Geez, I'd be happy with Obama out as well but this is about as out of context and the pot calling the kettle black as it gets. Obama was saying this in regard to overseas investment by Americans in an off hand remark, that we have not done enough. That is neither offensive nor far from the mark. Normally Republicans are the party of responsibility, telling the OWS they need to get a job, do something positive, not be so lazy, etc. But as soon as Obama uses the term, the Republicans get all worked up about it. I think sometimes whatever the opposition does is wrong and whatever we do is right, even if it is THE EXACT SAME THING.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 16, 2011 10:30 p.m.


    To make Brazil a leading oil exporter, Americans are right to wonder why Mr. Obama is underwriting in Brazil what he wont allow at home. If you can post any news of sub contracting benefitting our country, please do it. I haven't seen it with the several articles I've read on it. I do know of several people who recently worked with oil drilling in the gulf, and are now laid off.

    Fifteen trillion dollar debt? Must be more than Beck and Limbaugh after the money. I don't think they caused the national debt.

    And yes, I've been in all fifty states, and (like you) pay more taxes than most households earn.

    As for Obamas college and life. Citizens should know much of their leaders. Ignorance has been the downfall of many civilizations. We as a country, should demand knowledge and high expectation of those who effects our lives. Sorry, if you and others disagree. I won't vote for Romney because of his past stance on abortion. I do study those running for office, rather than listen to their pep rally speeches.

    Only a fool would vote for someone with no history.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 16, 2011 8:04 p.m.

    Wort... You have made the same quote about the loan to brazil..... And yet for a Texan really don't know how the oil business runs. A good portion of that loan funded sub contracting work right back here with your local Texas based oil field management companies. Investing in western hemisphere energy supplies provides a strong wedge between us and dependency on middle eastern sources of energy.

    And no. I am not Pagen, so sorry for answering for him. But yes, I did vote for Bush, no I am not soft, yes - i have been to most states, yes, I am one of the five percent - I pay more taxes than most households make - and no I will not vote for any candidate that panders to the mind numbing platform of the tea party. I will leave that up to those who still believe Beck and Limbaugh really do care and aren't in it just for the money.

    As to you list of questions about Obama's college.....let's see Romney and Perry do what you ask then we can talk. Same standard, all candidates please. Otherwise your list is just a partisan joke.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 16, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    Well Pagan,

    * Are you lazy and soft?
    * Have you been in fifty seven states with one more to go?
    * Was our trillion dollar stimulus really stimulating?
    * How is the jobs bill going to create jobs?
    * Did you vote for George Bush?
    * What's going to happen with folks who can't pay for health care?
    * How much is Australia going to pay for our new military presence?
    * Should we really wait till after the election for the Canadian oil pipeline? It's would only supply twenty thousand jobs anyway.
    * You honestly believe BO was born in Hawaii? What happened to his law license? From his college transcripts, what were his grades like? What does his former roommates think of him? Did he have a girlfriend in high school? How about junior high or elementary school? What does his college professors recall about him as a student?
    * Could BO pay alittle more to cover his fair share?
    * How much does BO pay for his golfing?
    * In the past three months, how many of it has been in Washington DC?
    * Why twenty two billion dollars to Brazilian oil drilling?
    * Why almost sixteen million for Finland car factory?

    You're easily deceived.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 16, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    Pagan must be paid by the democrat party to monitor the deseret news and insert quotes from left wing media. You notice pagan never uses real data or information, just articles clipped out of the newspapers. Which isn't a real reliable source.

  • ksampow Farr West, Utah
    Nov. 16, 2011 1:05 p.m.

    Christy: "just a jab at Obama's 'otherness'. "

    No, it was a jab at Obama never having held a job outside of politics.
    Romney has often taken jabs at his 'otherness' (specifically his religion).

    By the way, does any one find it interesting that while Romney is being assailed for belonging to a churh that believes in modern revelation ... Cain says that God told him to run for President, something Romney has never claimed of his own candidacy.

  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 16, 2011 11:20 a.m.

    It's amazing to me that Romney has continually stayed at or near the top of the polls inspite of attacks from both the right and the left in the mainstream media and on Fox News. They contend that nobody wants him, but he has a following that stays with him inspite of all the attacks.

    I believe those supporters are people who have researched his positions for themselves rather than relying on headlines and distortions promoted by his opponents. Most of the comments here show ignorance of Romney's experience and background, though they think they know all about it, having read the headlines and soundbites.

    You are not an informed voter if you accept that Romney is a "flip flopper" without going to his own website or reading his book.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 16, 2011 9:14 a.m.

    Thank you for making my point about GM and Chrysler and confirming Romneys comment about letting them go bankrupt. There should have been no auto bailout, regardless of who signed the law. You cannot use bush as the foil on this one. Had they gone BK without a bailout as Romney said, we would have saved $14 billion. (source SIGTARPs 10/27/11 report to congress)

    As for the financial bailout you love to demonize? According to the same SIGTARP report, table 2.2, the CBO estimates we MADE $16 billion on the capital purchase program (commercial banks), we MADE $7 billion on Citibank and Bank of America, and lost $14 billion on AIG (not a commercial bank). So the financial bailout MADE $9 billion, while the auto bailout Romney says should not have happened cost us $14 billion. And the housing bailout is costing us $13 billion, not counting the fannie and freddie rathole we're still throwing money down thanks to barney frank.

    The fact that Romney was able to win ANY general election in the peoples republic of Massachusetts is an incredible feat and speaks volumes about electability.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 16, 2011 8:14 a.m.

    What Obama's campaign manager was quoted in this article. So then it's true, Obama has started campaigning. So his visits to "key" spots on the country are not only "presidential" as he has pretended.

    I doubt Obama could tell the truth even with a telepromter. I'm tired of a president who is always blaming it's citizens for the problems we have. So far we "the people" have been called rude, arrogant, racist, unintelligent, and now lazy by Pres. Obama.

    Here's another term Obama can label Americans with...Unemployed.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 16, 2011 7:20 a.m.

    Impeach obama! Who is he to deem one lazy over another? The man who has golfed and taken more vacations than the rest of working America combined. Barack has been lazy on kicking his smoking habit, which was a campaign promise to quit. The only thing obama has not been lazy on, is printing and spending our money.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 16, 2011 12:07 a.m.

    Lazy and soft describes BO. This guy is on a constant vacation. Is Michelle there with him in Hawaii? oops? Australia? Us lazy people will pay all expenses.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 8:24 p.m.

    Not saying that Romney is Lincoln, but Lincoln didn't do much until he won the big election either.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 8:22 p.m.

    A Real Dad:

    When my taxpayer money went to bail out some of these companies who had given their CEO"s millions of dollars while bringing our economy to the brink, that's WHEN it became my business! When after receiving bailout money, and these companies still paid these CEO's millions of dollars, that's WHEN it became my business. And even as a stockholder of say a computer company that went belly up costing me several thousand dollars of own money, that's WHEN it became my business. So I guess it was MY BUSINESS as both a taxpayer and a shareholder. I hope I answered your question.

  • okie BIXBY, OK
    Nov. 15, 2011 8:14 p.m.

    Our country needs someone who has the ability to see and know what is lacking in leadership at the helm of our country. Mitt Romney is no push over, he knows what he needs to do to get the job done, and he will not waste time getting it done. I feel, despite what we hear on the news, our government is on the brink of collaspe. We need to elect a competent person like Mitt Romney. Like him or not, he is the one.

  • ThinksIThink SEATTLE, WA
    Nov. 15, 2011 8:01 p.m.

    Republicans have been preaching that American's are lazy, relying on hand-outs, etc. for years. Why the change when President Obama says the same thing?

  • Kirk R Graves West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 7:59 p.m.

    Romney took over as governer of Mass in 2003. At that time, employment numbers were dropping steeply and had been for 2 year. 1 year after he took office, employment began an upward curve, not steep, but a definite turn-around. Interestingly, Romney left office in 2007, in 2008 employment took another steep drop.
    Perhaps we should look to another reason why Mass. was having issues with employment other than their governor. It looks like Romney was accomplishing in Mass what we need him to accomplish in the U.S.

  • I-am-I South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 7:43 p.m.

    Politicians use rhetoric to gain followers. Rhetoric is made up of three parts, pathos (emotional), logos (logical), and ethos (credibility of speaker. )Most people are easily swayed by their emotions. What Romney is trying to do is get all the people who don't want to be known as lazy to vote for him. It's probably a smart move. The average American (lazy or not) probably doesn't want to be known as lazy. The average American does not care enough to research what Obama said to one group of people on one night. Whether Romney interprets and understands what Obama was saying doesn't really matter. People respond emotionally to being insulted (or a perceived insult). As a rhetorical speaker goes it was probably a smart move. Tell people Obama thinks they are lazy and they will go against Obama....... That all being said. I would much prefer if politicians used more logos to convince us of why we should vote for them. I have never seen a politician sit down and mathematically show us why his tax, health care, or any other change, would be the most beneficial.

  • Kiyo Washougal, Washington
    Nov. 15, 2011 7:38 p.m.

    It's time to turn up the heat on BHO........... draw him out into an open debate..............go Mitt in 2012!

  • speed66 Heber City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 7:26 p.m.

    People hear what they want to hear and interpret the story to fit their internal dialog. To suggest that Obama doesn't like success is absurd. To suggest that he doesn't like America is equally ridiculous.

    I'm not sure how the discussion of Presidential candidates turns to such inane topics. Aren't there more substantive arguments to be made?

    I understand what Mitt is doing. He's looking for a headline, a storyline that he can run with. The fact that his comments are inaccurate is of no concern - especially to Mitt. He has only a casual relationship with the truth. If a democrat had held as many varying positions as Mitt, he'd be crucified by the very people who are attacking Obama.

    I don't pretend to be objective. I don't like or respect Mitt. I don't think Mitt is the right guy for the job. I don't trust him. I'm also not convinced that he has the GOP nomination sewn up. Gingrich is now ahead or neck-in-neck in every poll and ahead in Iowa. Mitt's inconsistencies are not being ignored.

    We need real debate instead of name-calling and talkshow hate speech. That may be too much to ask.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 15, 2011 7:17 p.m.

    Hi Pagan,

    After reading your first post I am curious: Do you, in fact, support corporate bailouts?

    You speak of Romney's opposition to the auto-maker bailouts as if it were a bad thing. I assume this means you are in favor of corporate bailouts with taxpayer dollars. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, and you actually think that bailouts are a bad thing.

  • southmtnman Provo, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 6:05 p.m.

    For Romney to get the nomination, he must be "electable".

    Here is his track record on elect-ability:

    Romneys campaigns:

    Won-1994: MA Senate Republican primary: Romney 82%, John Lakian 18%

    Lost-1994: MA Senate general election: Ted Kennedy 58%, Romney 41%

    Won-2002: MA Gubernatorial Republican primary: Romney runs unopposed

    Won-2002: MA Gubernatorial general election: Romney 50%, Shannon OBrien 45%

    Lost-2006: MA Gubernatorial primary: trailing in polls for the general election to Deval Patricka guy whod never run for anything beforeRomney declines to seek reelection.

    Lost-2007: Presidential primaries: Romney won only three states where the vote was a straight-up primary: Michigan (where his father had been governor); Massachusetts (where he had been governor); and Utah (Mormons).

    On other side of the ledger, Romney lost primaries in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, California, Arizona, Connecticut, Illinois, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Oklahoma, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Virginia, and Maryland.

    Overall, Romney has a 17-year career record of 5 wins vs 18 losses.

    The only reason Romney gets taken seriously is his money. Period.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 5:37 p.m.

    If you need ceo's to send money to you to support your campaign, you probably should not tell them what they need to hear.

  • A Real Dad Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 15, 2011 5:36 p.m.

    Hey, Howard Beal. Who made you the guy to determine what is too much or not enough at another person's company?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 5:21 p.m.

    'Pagan: You take up way too much space. ' - Tom in CA | 4:47 p.m. Nov. 15, 2011

    And you wonder why no one likes you Tom.

    Resorting attacking me, personally...

    instead of focusing on the ARTICLE, only shows you don't have any argument to make.

    And it shows the low standards of the moderator, to perpetuate hate speech, instead of the civil discourse, it claims it is trying to support.

    Is this how Romney supporters act?

    Insult the messenger, instead of dispute the message?

    Mitt Romney on Job creation:
    From 2003-2007 job growth....0.9%.
    In rankings with the rest of the country...MA was 47th in Job creation when Mitt Romney was there.
    - Think Progress Travis Waldron 06/02/11

    0.9% job 'growth'...

    BEFORE the 'financial meltdown?'

    Why is this supposed to be impressive?

    At least Obama got our economy to stop HEMAROGING jobs at the tune of -700,00/year to zero job losses.

    For, all 50 states.

    Mitt Romney, couldn't even get 1% job growth for MA.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 5:15 p.m.

    live4uid, If you read my previous criticism of your comment- sorry! I read part of your comment and accidentally scrolled down and read part of another comment. This mistake lead me to believe that you were blaming Romney for those who don't have jobs. Completely my mistake.

    I lost a job and gained it twice, so when people say 'you don't understand what it's like... I've lost my job' and I see many of those same people sitting around all day- I can't help but think "Really? You're going to blame the world while you do nothing to provide for your family?" and so on.

    That mentality honestly infuriates me. I know so many people who've done things like that and similar worse things that I can hardly comprehend.

    Again, sorry for the confusion.


    Anyway, as a general comment to everyone: I just thought of another thing that stands to show how Romney is different from Obama.

    One did drugs, the other didn't. I know who I'd rather have in the White House. For some reason, I believe in holding candidates to a higher standard.

  • A Real Dad Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 15, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    Christy, you cry too much. Because someone disagrees with the Prez you play the race card. Grow up.

  • A Real Dad Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 15, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    Hey Mr. Prez. Two jobs and 66 hours a week. Sorry I am lazy.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 5:04 p.m.

    I think CEO's work hard, very hard, but they are still grossly overpaid.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 15, 2011 4:47 p.m.

    "Just seems silly to present a headline as some sort of factual evidence to support an opinion"

    metamoracoug: You were referring to Pagan, and hit it on the head.

    Pagan: You take up way too much space. Could you make it just a little less verbose? I'll give you one thing, however - you're a great water carrier for your boy.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    Nov. 15, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    "Romney's campaign stood by its characterization of the president's remarks. Romney has been emphasizing the economy and jobs as he tries to give his campaign a lift."

    So even though the Romney campaign is shown the error of their position they will still stand by their mischaracterization of the President's remarks and hope that no one will notice. Until this moment this moment I had no idea how empty the Romney team was on creative ideas to get the country moving forward.

    Just say whatever you like, misquote and twist the words of others or taken their words out of context. Whatever it takes. Just win baby. "Oh, I got elected president? Now what should I do?"

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    Nov. 15, 2011 4:25 p.m.

    Romney's backhanded comments about Obama not really 'understanding America', and needing to be replaced 'by a people who believe in American principles' is just a jab at Obama's 'otherness'.

    How pathetic.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    Romney knows how to cut spending, set and stick to a budget. When did President Obama ever solve anything without throwing more money at it? When did he ever stick to a budget?

    Americans may seem lazy, as so many jobs are now sitting at a computer screen...I'm not sure our youth have been taught how to work, I mean really work...leading to the "entitlement" issues...

    When there is incentive, something to work towards, when effort is appreciated and hard work a hallmark of respect...when something really needs getting done, I believe most Americans would answer that call...

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Nov. 15, 2011 4:16 p.m.

    I find it amusing that there are some who quote newspaper headlines and articles as though the left-wing media is actually factual in its presentations. Its sort of like going to a a Nazi German rally to find out our my life has been trashed by Jews. Our local rag once had an article in it about stay at home fathers. I was included in the article, but the author got about half the facts regarding me wrong. Do you think they are any more accurate in the "big city" papers? Yeah, I don't either.

    Just seems silly to present a headline as some sort of factual evidence to support an opinion.

  • David B. Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    Obama has some nerve to call the American people lazy! He had better look in a dam mirror first! Anybody that spends more time on vacation and being incompetent at the same time isn't much of a leader. Why do you think he sealed his school records and such? It was because he was a flunky that's why! If he gets re-elected he won't be there long.

  • sergio Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 15, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    Romney is making himself look foolish with all his petty picayunish griping about president Obama. He is starting to sound like a silly little school girl. What can he do for the country; we already know he is of the opposing party and he dosen't like Obama. He doesn't need to keep repeating it. Get on to bigger matters. He needs to grow up and act like a presidential candidate.

  • live4uid PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    I just have to ask a question to all these people who keep saying unemployed are lazy and refuse to take a job beneath them. Have you ever lost your job? Have you been asked to take a 40% paycut? Because until you have, you can't comprehend it. Also, I don't think Americans are lazy. I think some are, just like some are in every country, race, populace in the world. I'm American and I'm not lazy so yes it is offensive when our President tells us we're lazy and I agree with Romney, President Obama just doesn't get it sometimes.

  • mightymite DRAPER, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    OK, Mr. Silverspoon, stick up for your entitled brothren. Mr. Romney, can you tell me what you have done lately -- I mean with your own merits?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    in case you missed it, GM and Chrysler DID go bankrupt.' - lost in DC | 3:04 p.m. Nov. 15, 2011

    You mean the auto-bailouts?

    You mean, the auto-bail outs...signed into law by Republican President George W. Bush?

    *'Bush signs $17.4 billion auto industry bailout package' - By Nelson Ireson - Motor Authority - 12/19/08

    Or do you mean the Wall Street Bailouts?

    Signed into law by Republican President George W. Bush on 10/03/08?

    *Bush signs $700 billion bailout bill AP Published by Denver Post By Tom Raum 10/03/08
    WASHINGTON President Bush quickly signed into law a far-reaching $700 billion bill to bail out the nation's tottering financial industry, calling it "essential to helping America's economy" weather the storm.

    I'm glad Mitt Romney gives you 'hope' for better jobs lost.

    *'Mitt Romney as job creator clashes with Bain record of job cuts' - By Lisa Lerer, Bloomberg News - Published by DSNews - 07/20/11
    '...still hold Romney responsible.
    "I would not vote for him for anything," said Phyllis Detro, 68, who lost her job...'

    I'm sure you'll do better off than Phyllis.

    a 68 year old woman, fired from her job.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 3:14 p.m.

    Pagan, I have a few points regarding yours-

    Are you saying that Mitt Romney's financial dealings and successes make him less eligible to run this country? Do you know much about the men who formed this very government? If you're so much wiser than Romney, why don't you run? And as you always preach about Obama's health care- how does socializing health care reduce government spending? But I guess Romney letting Detroit go under is bad, but Obama letting America go under is okay... right?

    A guy who lost his job and blames Romney does not have ANY credibility in forming a logical or rational argument.

    What has he done for me? Well, he came to my state and cleaned up a corrupt Olympic games and made Utah a shining example of how the Olympics can be funded without hurting the economy that hosts the games.

    That's pretty commendable in my opinion.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 3:13 p.m.

    'flip flops on all issues' - ute alumni | 2:52 p.m. Nov. 15, 2011

    Reply fact:

    *'Mitt Romney reverses himself, supports anti-union law' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/26/11
    'FAIRFAX, Va. A day after he refused to endorse an Ohio ballot measure that limits public employee union rights, Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said Wednesday that he is "110 percent" behind the effort.'

    Zero to 110% in 24 hours.

    Nope. Can't beat that.

    But instead, I should resort to insults, like yourself. And refer to the first black president as....


    what has your boy done for us?' - ute alumni | 2:52 p.m. Nov. 15, 2011

    Now, go ahead and accuse me of 'race baiting'...

    instead of:

    *Senate Republicans likely to kill Obama jobs bill By Andrew Taylor AP Published by DSNews 10/11/11

    The facts.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    in case you missed it, GM and Chrysler DID go bankrupt.

    you have a problem with people being successful? You must, and that's why you LOVE BO so much, because everything he has tried has been a failure.

    What has Mitt done for me? First, he has had no responsibility for me, never having held a position of authority over me. But he has given me hope that we can eventually undo the damage BO and his cabal have done.

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    Romney? Since Obama has been President, what have you been doing? Heck you haven't even held a political office! I can see how you might misunderstand what the word "lazy" means.

    Nov. 15, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    America has become lazy. President Obama is correct; except it's that we have 9% unemployment and many of those people refuse to work "beneath" there status in life. That's why farmers and agriculture people can't find anybody to work but those who love to work - immigrants and illegals.

    Yep....we're lazy!!!

  • BobP Port Alice, B.C.
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:56 p.m.

    Impeach Obama . . .

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:55 p.m.

    I wasn't sure how I felt about either statement from either person, until I read the following quote from Mitt Romney.

    "I'm convinced that America is not lazy รข is not soft; has not lost its ambition or its inventiveness," Romney said. But "they're being held down today by a government that is too big, that thinks it know more than it does and that needs to be replaced by a people who fundamentally believe in American principles and the American future."

    I don't care whether you like him or not, agree with him or not. I don't even agree with him on a few issues. But the man is intelligent and this quote only stands to support it.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:53 p.m.

    there is nothing lazy about sitting in a park, with a tent and a sign railing against people who get up and go to work every day to put food on their tables, right Occupy unemployed?

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    yomama has a deep dislike for successful Americans. Of course he thinks we're lazy. He has to blame someone or something everytime he opens hs mouth. 14 more months and the c.o. is back to hanging placards on lightpoles.
    The guy is PATHETIC.
    what has your boy done for us?
    high umemployment
    health care mess
    no business activity
    lowered our standing to the world
    flip flops on all issues
    keep drinking the kool aid....this is the short list and I don't even have to cut and paste other's comments, because I am living life with this empty suit "leading" the country..

  • The Hammer lehi, utah
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:42 p.m.

    Obama is more of an annoyance now. You here about him and its like a fly buzzing in your ear. The dude should step down.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:17 p.m.

    'Romney criticizes Obama's 'lazy' comment to CEOs' - Title

    Can't criticize CEO's...

    *'Mitt Romney raises $18.25 million, but Republicans worry it might not be enough' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar - DSNews - 07/07/11


    *Firm dissolves after giving pro-Romney PAC $1 million' - By Ken Thomas - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/04/11

    *Mitt Romneys wealth raises new questions By Jamshid Ghazi Askar DSNews 08/15/11
    'Romney owns between $250,000 and $500,000 in horses.'

    CEO's are Mitt Romney's bread and butter!

    And yet:

    *'Let Detroit Go Bankrupt' - By Mitt Romney - NY Times - 11/18/08

    *'Mitt Romney as job creator clashes with Bain record of job cuts' - By Lisa Lerer, Bloomberg News - Published by DSNews - 07/20/11
    'Employees who lost jobs at Bain-controlled companies more than a decade ago say they still hold Romney responsible.
    "I would not vote for him for anything," said Phyllis Detro, 68, who lost her job...'

    Mitt Romney.

    Ever at the defense of CEO's...

    *Mitt Romney: Corporations are people...my friend - By Phillip Elliot - AP - Published by DSNews 08/11/11

    what has he done, for you?

    The average American?