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Published: Monday, Nov. 14 2011 4:18 p.m. MST

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atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

I think it's a real question to consider how a candidate could be influenced by another (and not just religious leaders, that's why Bill Ayers kept getting brought up in the last campaign), but in this case it doesn't take long to look at the records of Romney and Huntsman and see that they're not going to be some sort of pawn of Salt Lake City.

Carson
Provo, UT

He's not the only one who believes it's all about money and power!

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

*'LDS Church's in-kind donations to Prop. 8 total $190K' - By Lynn Arave - By Dsnews - 02/03/09

'Proposition 8 was a ballot measure in California last November that changed the state constitution to restrict the definition of marriage to opposite-sex couples and eliminated same-sex couples' right to marry.'

*Mormon Church agrees to pay small fine for mistake that led to late report of contributions in Prop. 8 campaign' - By Scott Taylor - By DSnews - 06/09/10

Federal judge dismisses Summum suit against Pleasant Grove By Dennis Romboy DSNews 06/04/10

A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit against the city that claim it violated the establishment clause of the US consitution by allowing a Ten Commandments monument by rejecting one showing the the Salt Lake-based religious sects beliefs. The clause in the First Amendment prohibits government from adopting a national religion.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

The ONLY time I would consider the faith of a canidate, is if the canidate, would put those belief's ABOVE the wellfare of our country.

*'Romney: God wants US to lead, not follow' - By Steve Peoples - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/07/11
He says God did not create America to be a nation of followers.

Also:

*'GOP contenders argue on Iran' - By Kasie Hunt - AP - Published by DSNews - 11/12/11
"If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon. And if you elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon," vowed the former Massachusetts governor.'

I am in NO mood for yet another war...

based on the ever popular 'Nuclear weapons' claim or 'WMD's'...

that cost us $3 trillion of your tax dollars, and over 4,000 American lives.

*'U.S. Military deaths in Iraq war at 4,473 - AP - Published by the DSNews - 08/02/2011

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

The world doesn't revolve around Prop 8, regardless of Pagan's views on the subject.

Those who criticise the LDS leaders are ones who know them the least. That was true in Joseph Smith's day and it remains true today.

Rickety
Kaysville, UT

I suppose Bloom obtains money and power by writing about organisations that have money and power. Yawn.

Ms Molli
Bountiful, Utah

What part of what he said isn't correct?

dumprake
Washington, UT

This should be conclusive evidence that the really smart and really education people at places like Harvard, are some the dumbest people around. This guy needs to get out of his office and his books a bit more. And taxpayers pay his exorbitant salary--so who is obsessed with power and money?

Eichendorff
Olathe, Kansas

@Pagan

BLAH, BLAH, Blah, blah....zzzzzzz

Laura Ann
Layton, UT

@Pagan You must be living in a different country than I am as it is a violation of the Constitution to have an 'Official Religion.'

As of 'Proposition 8 was a ballot measure in California last November that changed the state constitution to restrict the definition of marriage to opposite-sex couples and eliminated same-sex couples' right to marry.'

Please give it a rest. There are a lot of religions, such as the Catholics, who were also against same-sex couples' right to marry.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

"Ye shall know them by their fruits". Christ taught us the method that would unfailingly show us how to pick between people. There are "fruits" enough for anyone who is willing to look, to tell whether members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are following Christ or whether they're following Christ's adversary.

It's easy to get caught up in emotions, particularly when a religion tells the world that God is dissatisfied with all other religions. That tends to cause people to take sides. It causes those who are prone to excusing their own failings even as they point out the faults of others, to overlook the good as they grovel for any fault or mistake.

Look at the lives of the 14,000,000 who are members. Compare them with any other group of 14,000,000 and see if there is not much to be admired in the way they conduct themselves and raise their families.

Perfection is the commandment, but only one was perfect. The rest of us are somewhere along that path, hopefully pursuing goodness as we try to emulate Christ, our example and our leader.

Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

Wow, we get our own planet? cool, i need to pay more attention in Sunday School. Glad the author knows everything!

falasha
Mount Laurel, NJ

I don't see how Monson's relentless service to widows while in his powerful 20's constitutes an early pursuit towards leading a church towards a plutocracy. The book of mormon itself teaches a distinct liberation theology which compels the believer to produce a society "knit together in love". A few examples: "Are we not all beggars?" Mosiah4, ridicule of wealthy prideful oligarchy: Helaman 6:39-40, Annihilation of wealth classes: "And they had all things common among them; therefore there were not rich and poor, bond and free, but they were all made free, and partakers of the heavenly gift." 4Nephi1 Insightful commentary identifying true prosperity i.e. attainment of "precious things, silk and good homely cloth." with "not send[ing] away any who were naked, or hungry, or athirst", "and they did not set their hearts upon riches", and "they were liberal to all, both old/young, bond/free, male/female, out of the church or in" Alma 1:30. The church continues to fund the PEF to avoid another great evil illustrated in 3Nephi 6:12, "people distinguished by ranks, according to their riches and chances for learning;"

Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

dumprake: Yale is a well-endowed, private university. Taxpayers do not pay Bloom's salary. That said, power and money are certainly prevalent in the Ivy League schools. But Bloom's criticism of the LDS Church as being power- and money-hungry is as off base as the recent article in Harper's, which makes the same false argument.

Madden
Herriman, UT

The funny thing is, I agree that too many of us LDS the (active, practicing, believing ones) are focused on secular life and gaining wealth. Probably have to include myself in that condemnation. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were both worried about prosperity being the thing that brought the saints down, not persecution.

But to lay that blame at the feet of LDS leaders just feels bizarre...I don't see or hear anything to make me think that money is their focus, they focus on the spiritual. Do we blame Moses for the failings of the people he helped free from bondage in Egypt? Not so much. A teacher/leader/preacher can only do so much to sway the hearts of men.

Jonathan Eddy
Payson, UT

Huh?...................

skeptic
Phoenix, AZ

If the Mormons will give serious thought to what Mr Bloom is making evident, rather than just sweep it under their dogma rug, they may learn how to better live successfully in the world of different people.

Kiyo
Washougal, Washington

Just another strategy to get BHO re-elected.

Vanka
Provo, UT

When Bloom was praising the LDS Church and founder, Deseret News published an article on it, and members were virtually gloating!

Now the same Professor Bloom elaborates on what he meant, and it is a scathing critique or Mormonism, so members attack Dr. Bloom!

Your opportunistic reactions to Bloom confirm exactly what he is saying about Mormonism and Mitt Romney. So long as it helps the Church gain money and power, you will smile upon it.

Professor Bloom hit the nail on the head.

peacemaker
Provo, UT

It has always amazed me when I hear the all knowing and wise College Professors who have only "Book" and theoretical experience based on years of time in a classroom. Many of those I have dealt with in the working world have little common sense in dealing with the realities of Society or the use of practical thinking in solving problems. The extensive education and study has filled their minds with knowledge without the advantage of practical application or common sense. With all due respect to his extensive study and teaching, his opinions exhibit a total lack of an understanding of a few basic principals.
1.Faith and living God's commandments while doing the Lords work equals prosperity.
2.That prosperity is now serving millions of underprivileged Children of God throughout the world through the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Charities charities.
God promised Adam and Eve he would never leave them alone. Modern day inspiration and revelation continue to update the needs of his children today. Professor Bloom is quick to judge followers and slow to understand who Jesus Christ is and what he taught.
The greatest education is experience...Albert Einstein

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