deepblue....seriously 9 months later people are still saying its the girl from
ASU? She had NOTHING to do with brandons suspension!! And you as well have no
idea what type of scrunity she has been under or what her life has been like
being blamed for something she didn't do!!
CalmDownAs an ASU athlete, she hasn't had to deal with the intense
public scrutiny that Brandon was subjected to; as to how she's doing, I'm
guessing she'd probably prefer to keep that confidential.
SG, you and I had very different experiences at the Y. When I was there from
1981-1986, I had plenty of friends and acquaintences at school, and with the
exception of a couple of the hundred I knew personally, the students and faculty
were striving to live what they had committed to in signing the honor code. Two
of my children who are currently enrolled there can speak for the environment
now.Based on the tone of your comment, the broad generalizations and
the fact that you are hiding behind a screen name and give no supporting facts,
I don't believe your story at all. Back it up, or fess up.
Brandon Davies is a very special kid... Few people will ever know what he had to
go through to get back to where he is today... They say that the measure of a
man is how well he bounces when he is knocked down... This kid got knocked down
about as hard as anyone can be knocked down and he was able to pick himself up,
go through the pentance process and return to the hardwood with a blue and white
BYU uniform on... I wager that very few people could or would have done that.Brandon is a talented guy.... I hope he has a career year and that he
develops into a solid pro prospect... I will always follow this kid's career
wherever it leads because he is someone that deserves respect and deserves to be
Brandon, thanks for showing class and representing well! We wish you much
success and happiness. May you have an great season this year - and more
importantly, may you have an awesome life! Take the moral/ethical/spiritual
lessons learned from the experience and make yourself a positive role model for
others. You're a big man physically on the court, but with the attitude you've
had through all this, you're an even bigger man on the court of life! God bless
Kudos to Brandon, who cares about anyones opinions. BYU will never lose sleep
over those who don't want to go there and sign the honor code. It is all about
principle and those who scoff at it are just ignorant because they know that
they could never live the code so they stoop to low levels to blast it.
Kudos to Davies for coming forward with it and getting things taken care of.
That takes guts in his situation. However, BYU should have suspended the idiot
that leaked the more specific nature of his wrongdoing. IMO that is almost as
bad as what he did, given the already high profile nature of the incident. But
he weathered it like a champ, and although I'll be yelling at him on Friday like
all the rest of the players, I won't be making any reference to his past
actions. I'll leave that to people who might not respect that as much.USU 81, BYU 74
Come On,Thank you. Yes, you are actually correct, and you correct me.
There were two.Tom and MU,Thank you both. I hope you both are
right. But, I could guess and hope all by myself. I just thought it might be
nice to KNOW that she/they was/are well.
Tom in CA - how in the world would you know that or what her life has been like.
Plus there are two very different people that are associated with this story,
besides Brandon. One has absolutely nothing to do with the story, one it totally
CalmDown,From Brandon's comments I gather they are no longer
together so hopefully she has been able to put it behind her just as he has,
with the help of loving family, friends and church leaders. The advantage she
has over Brandon is the ability to slip back into anonymity.
sg,If what you say is true, it's the Bishops that should be ashamed.
They are the gatekeepers and the ones who have to sign off on every prospective
student's worthiness and understanding of the honor code as well as their
committment to live the honor code. Any Bishop who sends kids to BYU knowing
they shouldn't be there is wrong and is putting the school in a difficult
Calm Down - I'm sure she's doing just fine.
What an outstanding young man. I disagree with sg, too. People are always going
to disobey rules, but to call standards that every church member should be
living antiquated just shows where you are spiritually. Best of luck to you.
@SG: I 100% disagree with you. The honor code at BYU is real and it is
followed. And... it is more strictly enforced than it used to be. I have known
a few people who had no business at BYU and should have been turned into the
Standards Office. But, just because they weren't doesn't mean the code is not
real or not followed by the VAST MAJORITY of students. The vast majority of
students are following the rules and becoming outstanding people. We all make
mistakes, but in general, any mature individual has NO PROBLEM keeping the honor
code at BYU. Signing the Code is merely to make sure students know
that this is serious and they are required to abide by their word. I'm sorry
you are so embittered by your experience at BYU. Having attended another
university has made me understand that my degrees from BYU are some of the
greatest blessings of my life. I was in attendance at the Wyoming
game last year. When Brandon went up to cut his part of the net, the crowd went
wild. Everyone supported him 100%
sgBYU didn't make Brandon the poster child for BYU's Honor Code; the
media did that; the only thing BYU ever did was announce Brandon's suspension
from the team and his re-admittance to BYU.I couldn't care less
about the heresay of a member of a bishopric who would brand an entire
institution as liars and dishonorable because of the actions of a few. It's ironic that the very people who complain the most about having to sign
the honor code, are the ones who seem to have the hardest keeping it, while the
majority of those who abide by honor code, would do so even if they weren't
required to sign it.To my wife and I and five of our children who
have attended BYU, signing the honor code has been a meer formality because,
except for a few specific dress and grooming standards, the honor code simply
codified LDS standards that we were already living.
Wish I could count on Aggie fan to keep it classy when it comes to this
particular situation. I'm sure, in light of the way they acted towards Unga,
they'll bring the "creativity." Pretty sad.
I support Brandon for what he did; however, for BYU to react to his
"confession" and make him the poster child of the honor code is
unconscionable. It is a known fact among current students and alum that the
honor code is a joke. Years ago while attending BYU, my health teacher, who at
the time was the track coach and member of a bishopric in one of the student
wards declared that BYU wouldn't even have a student body to speak of if the
honors code committee knew what bishoprics knew concerning the blatant violation
of the code. Brandon should never have been subjected to the discipline and
public scrutiny. BYU is not as clean and upholding as it is made for us to
believe. Yes, I survived the Y, but I would never encourage or endorse the
school to kids I know. The whole honor code is antiquated and very ineffective.
To even have to sign such a code indicates that the school doesn't trust the
word of its students. To have to sign a piece of paper? Really.
Always good to see people working things out in their lives. As the
father of a daughter, I'm curious how the young woman is faring. She may not be
a popular athlete, but her soul is just as valuable. I hope she's doing well
Good. He's gonna need all the support he can get. Come 11-11-11, the Spectrum
will show no mercy for Davies. Go Aggies!USU 74 BYU 69
love this kid
Love the Atonement!! I love the fact and am so grateful that the Lord does not
remember our sins and in his eyes we become "white as snow". Good job
Congrats to Davies for owning up and handling it all with class. And to BYU fans
for supporting him. After viewing the Penn St mess, it is clearer than ever that
integrity matters more than winning, ESPECIALLY when winning matters, too. BYU
showed that in walking away from a #1 seed. I hope that if there is ever a case
of abuse (ala Sandusky) at BYU, they will have the courage to stop it and report
it.To all you Honor Code detractors, what in the end matters more?
For LDS bloggers: What would you say to your kids when they have to choose
between the standards of the LDS Church and the standards of the world? Why
should BYU not seek to institutionalize its values? What would it look like if
Brandon, Basketball is not the only thing going for you right now. What you
have going for you are your family, your friends, your character, your leaders,
your God. Basketball is not that important, and even if you go on to become a
great pro player someday, your family and your character will be all that really
counts, especially after your basketball career ends, which it surely will. I
salute you for keeping your head held high, for agreeing to talk with the media,
which is how you reach the public and your fans. We're pulling for you to stay
on the right path and make the most of your life. You have a great deal of
responsibility as a role model. We don't expect our role models to be perfect
because nobody is perfect. But remember that as a high profile representative
of your school, your church and your family, you can lead by example and show
others who make mistakes how to overcome them and make their weaknesses their
strengths. In the meantime, go out there and have the best season ever.
Go Brandon. You are a great example of a person moving on in a mature way. As
another poster said, you chose "the road less traveled." You decided
not to be a whiner and sniveler and finger-pointer. What a cool guy you are.
Your character will see you through tough times in the years ahead (we all have
some of those). Meanwhile, some of the whiners who never learned to man-up to
responsibilites because of their jock status will be wondering how they missed
out on some life survival skills that could have helped them off the court when
their jock status no longer mattered. (Not saying by any means that all current
so-called jocks lack character, but I think readers will get my drift here.)
I think it is awesome that Brandon is back and kudos to the BYU Men's Players
for rallying around one of their own in a time a great need. Regardless of what
happens on the court Brandon and BYU Men's Basketball or a first rate act. Wish
there was more of this type of team unity in sports. Glad to have you back with
the BYU men in Blue, Brandon!
I salute Brandon for "taking the road less traveled". We all make
mistakes, but he's an inspiration to many for sticking it out and doing the
right thing. I'm looking forward to watching him dominate on the floor this
season. It's going to be another fantastic season for the Cougs.
Just take it to the Aggies on Friday, brother! Don't worry about the rest. It's
over. Go Cougars.BYU 78USU 72