I don't think Mitt is a bad guy. I just think he's a RINO and not conservative
enough. A RINO would be better than the progressive we have now, but for a real
turn around, we need Ron Paul.
Now he has a chance to please his own and he got a "The speech got a tepid
response because the crowd was largely made up of fiscal conservatives"He is nibbling at the edges. What will save more, loading the economic
woes of the country on the backs of the elderly or taxing Exxon?The
military is one of the worst economic offenders in the country, strike that they
are the worst economic offender in this country and he is going to give them
back 400 billion. He has friends in the military. The postal
service that is outdated will continue to lose a billion every single month.
Lets all chip in for that one.Reduce international or foreign
aid..that would be by how much? 1% maybe half a percent. This speech is too
much like his other fiscal plan to put US back to work where even Rush had to
poke fun at it, as did the GOP congress. Warm and fuzzy plan with
no teeth other than the unbridled threat against the seniors. What about the
department of energy. Mitt you are in a barrel of fish, shoot some.
Motappin said:"but for a real turn around, we need Ron
Paul"Sorry sir - Ron Paul doesn't get it when it comes to Iran,
etal. Romney will never please the tea party ultra conservatives,
and bible thumpers, but he is the most likely to defeat The Anointed One - goal
number one. Might as well come to terms with it, folks.
I have supported Romney's campaign on the basis that I feel he is best qualified
to lead our country out of the mess we are in. I hope he wins the Nomination,
and cannot wait for the Obama debates. America wanted an actor for a President
with Obama.. a smooth talker with zip experience who vowed to change Washington,
got elected and realized he had no team of his own, and hired all the retreads,
hence the same old problems.
Re: Motappin; Ron Paul will take us back to the dark ages. Doug 10.
Sure, I think we ought to tax the daylights out of Exxon and every other company
and keep on taxing them until they bleed. Wait,companies don't pay
taxes! They don't pay one single cent in taxes. They have never paid taxes and
never will. They just pass those tax costs onto the consumer by raising prices
and write the check for us. I wonder what would happen if we had to
pay more in income taxes and have no taxes on anything we buy, but shift that to
the income tax.
"Romney is running in an atmosphere in which it is extremely difficult to
remain serious and substantive. Yet he is doing it. Democrats should not
underestimate him."Hmmm I wonder what will turn out to be the
largest mistake. Some democrats underestimating him or some republicans
overestimating him. I guess only time will tell.
MItt is the best candidate to date, but I too would like to see him axe the post
office, or sell it off; gut the bloated department of energy and re-evaluate
military spending...I like that foreign aid goes down, but does it go deep
Go MITT! Let's take down the Washington machine of corruption and
overspendingand bring honesty and integrity centered leadership to the
Cougar Blue: finally someone points out the truth that corporations don't pay
taxes. the only one that pays taxes is the end consumer!
Could the Deseret News be any more blatantly bias in their coverage of the
Republican Presidential race? Come on guys! Be a real newspaper!
@MotappinAmen! Right with you all the way!@Tom in CA"Sorry sir - Ron Paul doesn't get it when it comes to Iran,
etal."Ron Paul gets that going into Iran preemptively on
trumped up allegations (like we did in Iraq) will only result in the loss of
live and billions of dollars and many undesired unintended consequences. You
may disagree with his assessment, but few can match Paul's ability to look into
history to perceive future mistakes. Those who are so certain we must go to war
with Iran must be the first willing to enlist.@CougarBlue"Ron Paul will take us back to the dark ages." A
frightening scenario, to be sure, but how do you back up that assertion. In
what way would returning government to its Constitutional bounds return us to
the "dark ages?"
@Tom in CA"Ron Paul doesn't get it when it comes to Iran,
etal."While I agree with Ron Paul in principle, we can't take
our eye off Iran. It's not a matter of if they start a war, but when. Mitt Romney isn't my ideal candidate, but then, nobody is. What I do
like about him is that he brings a vast amount of experience in financial and
economic matters, which we are desperately lacking in the White House now.But more important than that, I think Romney has solid judgment and the
right tone to keep this nation from killing each other. Everyone else is VERY
polarizing. Our last three presidents have been polarizing figures and the
country is worse off for having elected Obama, Bush and Clinton. We need a guy
who is actually qualified and has good judgment.
I have learned something from this election. There never will be a
"perfect" candidate. So do we let religion be a factor, to vote for
or not? Do we let past ideas be a factor? Do we let a persons past be a
factor? Do we let alleged pasts be a factor? Well, I do have two factors, one,
who can beat Obama and two, who can turn our economy around. There are things I
like and don't like about each candidate, well kind of. I don't like much about
Michelle anymore, she annoys me as much as Obama does. Some of these men would
be easier to support then others, I would have a hard time with Perry also, I
just don't buy his act. But the rest, I would be comfortable voting for, but I
do want to vote for the person who will beat Obama.
"[Obama] puts his faith in government. I put my faith in people."The People ARE the Government; those employed in government ARE PEOPLE.
Private equity firms like Romney's have outsourced American jobs to China and
India. Where will the PEOPLE Mitt fires go for work?"I will
make government simpler, smaller, and smarter."Limited
government should not refer to its size, but to its domain of authority. We need
as large a government as necessary to carry out the purposes of government
mandated in the Constitution:- "Provide for the Common
Defense- Promote the General Welfare- Secure the Blessings of
Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"Notice
"Ourselves" comes first, followed by "our Posterity".Without jobs and opportunity for the current generation, there will be
no future generation.People today are putting off starting families
because of the economy. Wall Street cares more about profits than about
Americans. Wall Street's International/Global Corporations doesn't care about
American families. They will just cultivate "markets" in China and
India.Our self-governing Government has a moral imperative to the
current generation first, and our posterity second."Under
God"? Not our sovereign Nation, and not 12% of its non-believing citizens.
Poor Huntsman, the only way he can get his name in the news these days is to bag
on Romney - so much for civility in politics.While the rest of the
field has had supporters hopscotching from one to another at a dizzying rate,
Romney alone has maintained steady support. The only reason that Cain hasn't
had his support hop on down the road is that they are running out of other
"real conservatives" to hop to. This menagerie is a sad commentary on
the Grand Old Party and it seems to me that the hopscotchers are the real RINOs.
Mitt Romney wants to restore the right of insurance companies to reject claims
by declaring "pre-existing condition".If insurance
companies can vote, he'll win in a landslide.
Cut the federal payroll by 10 percent while removing cuts to the military? If
privatizing health care saved money, then America would have the most
cost-effective system in the world. Not. Mitt, don't forget it was your father
who signed the legislation that gave collective bargaining rights to public
workers. You have a proud, progressive heritage. I would vote for Mitt Romney,
if he were the man he was back in Massachusetts, not this new tea-party model.
Just reflect to history voters and commentors. This man has a
"history" of saying what to whomever he is talking to wants to hear.
In other words he is nothing more than one of the biggest flip-floppers ever.
That is proven by his past records and history. End of story!
Folks, focus on the big picture. We have historic levels of debt and government
spending, which cannot continue. If you confiscated all the income of
millionaries you would barely make a dent in the federal deficit which is
running at about $1.4 trillion a year during Obama's term. During
the last 60 years, the average percentage of GDP consumed by the federal
government has been 18.5% It is now at 25%. Sixty years ago the regulatory
burden was also much less. Today, governments at all levels require individuals
and businesses to pay an addition annual 15% of GDP to comply with goverment
regulations. Combine government spending with local and state annual spending
of GDP, which is about 15%, and we have 55% of our economy being directed,
controlled, supervised, and/or confiscated by government. Most of
the comments on this board are like straightening the deck chairs on the
So far the republicans do not yet have a candidate who can or will beat Obama.
Romney has just warmed over all the pat republican ideas of the past. The only
thing they all can agree on is the fact that they want to beat Obama. They want
that so bad they can taste it, but have not yet come up with any ideas that will
grab the independent voters. The have let the T party get too hard a grip on the
The way is now being paved.President Mitt Romney.
to Als Atheist: agree with you that our government is made up of people
----yet Exxon Mobile is made up of people, and when they get large profits---it
is helping people (employees) of Exxon Mobile----tax breaks to oil companies
benefit those people who work for them, and those employees are our neighbors
and friends, and they spend their money at our businesses, and pay their taxes.
Christoph,So do the government employees.
My first thought was to note the way that Ron Paul's ideas are taking hold, very
slowly, on more mainstream Republicans. If Mitt Romney can talk about reducing
the federal payroll by at least ten percent, talk of at least reducing the
funding of the National Endowment for the Arts, and reducing foreign aid, then
it seems that people are listening to Paul although his ideas are so diluted
with Romney that they cannot but have relatively slight effects.My
main criticism of Romney is that he, like so many of the GOP candidates, and
Democrats and Republicans in general, is such a militarist. Reversing Obama's
"defence" cuts and knowing his views on "not apologizing"
for America, which seems to translate largely into justifying all of America's
undeclared wars past and present, is depressing. How about a constitutional
Congress that declares wars legally and considers other approaches to foreign
problems.How about renouncing war and declaring peace, keeping
"defence" funds to defend not strike pre-emptively and killing
hundreds and thousands of those pesky "foreign" civilians and never
giving it a second thought.Romney's suggested cuts would hardly
return spending to 20% GDP. Paul is our one and only hope.
Atheist - government employees pay taxes that are then used to pay their own
salaries. Not good for the government. Not that government employees aren't an
important part of the equation but the less the better!
@Well Read"The have let the T party get too hard a grip on the
party."Is this the same Tea Party that helped the Republicans
win 65 seats in the House? I know the 'conventional wisdom' is that the Tea
Party is poisoning the GOP. That's obviously false thinking. The GOP would
probably have picked up seats in the last election, but they would never have
gained 65 without the Tea Party.So let's flip your argument around a
bit, Well Read. So far, Obama has presided over an economy with little or no
signs of recovery and 9% unemployment. No modern President has ever been
re-elected with unemployment that high. There is a reason there are so many
people throwing their hat into the GOP race. It's because 2012 is setting up to
be a landslide loss for Barack Obama. Mitt Romney is the guy who is perceived
to have the answers on the economy. Frankly, you don't have to come
up with an idea to grab the independent voters. The election of Barack Obama
proved that point in 2008. "Hope and Change" and "Change we can
Romney said: "Today, government borrows 36 cents of every dollar it spends.
If we stay on the present course, we will face tomorrow what Greece, Italy, and
Spain face today."Mitt is expert at hyperbole.Countries with Debt\GDP ratios higher than the US:#2 Japan#4
Greece#8 Italy#15 Canada#16 Germany#17 France#24
United Kingdom#25 Israel#32 UNITED STATES#35
Spain41 Vietnam#51 Pakistan#55 Ethiopia#78 Mexico#124 Russia#133 Lybia(source: CIA)So, we want to be
more like those countries on the bottom of the list?
"Ginnie Mae today reported record earnings, with net income of almost $1.2
billion for the fiscal year ending Sept. 30. The profit surpasses the companys
previous high of $906 million in 2008. Ginnie Mae said it financed nearly 60
percent of all U.S. home purchases during the year, reflecting the increasing
role FHA has been playing in the market."I hope Mitt Romney
seriously considers this news. The privatization of Fannie Mae was wrong headed.
I think Mitt can do it. While some people may accuse him of flip flopping, I
think that he's shown that he's learned from past mistakes and is willing to
change course if something isn't working. That's something both the Obama and
Bush administrations could have benefited from.
Just like the missionary model. The president gets three years and everybody
else two.Government service should not be a career.
Government and all of its workers are not producing anything to help boost the
economy because it only administer to its citizens. Private companies are the
ones producing products and income. If majority of the people of this country
works for the government, how are we different from North Korea.