Honestly, Greg Bird is the best special teams player I have ever seen, and that
is no understatement
Good to see the Utes looking so good. As for them winning the southern division
championship, if they beat UCLA (as they should) that is entirely possible. I
don't see them getting past either Stanford or Oregon, but winning the south
ensures them better than the Vegas Bowl. I'm just a little curious
about Chris B, though. He was on the thread for the USU over Hawaii article,
making fun of the Aggies, but I haven't seen him here crowing about the win.
Could it be that unless he has something negative, he doesn't speak (or write)?
@Skywalker: There are no moral victories in D1 football. A loss to Texas is a
loss, and a Utes loss to USC is a loss, no moral victory from that loss either.
Saying otherwise is ridiculous. In all honesty, is anyone else sick
and tired of both fan bases being so ridiculous to each other? I've never seen
anything like it. No constructive criticism and the lack of giving credit where
credit is due is ridiculous.BYU: They have gotten much better since
the Utah game, and Nelson is a gamer. Props to their defense for remaining
consistent all year. BYU should win out. Hopefully they bring their A game to
the Islands.Utah: They're defense is legit. #1 in the Pac 12 is
nothing to joke about. Hays has shown significant improvement. They CAN win
out, whether or not they do remains to be seen.
the funny thing is, I am willing to bet that TJ said his peace, and then he
won't come back to read the responses, and he will come trolling along next week
to tell us all about how bad utah will do next year against Stanford and Oregon.
I have corrected him at least 3 times, he hasn't acknowledged it once. I am
starting to wonder if he realizes he is making himself sound foolish......
@Mormon Ute,Next year could be special for the Utes if they can get
the QB situation solidified. Defense will be solid as always and the amount of
1st round NFL QBs the Utes face will shrink next year, too. ASU with 6'8"
Osweiller still around will be the toughest road game, though.
TJ,The good news is the Utes will be better prepared next year,
after the experience of going through this year and shoring up some weak spots
with new recruits. Also, Kosta Fesenko is right, the Utes don't play Stanford
and Oregon next year. The Pac 12 schedule changes every two years, not every
year. I just checked the Utes web site to confirm this. So we will have the
same conference opponents next year that we had this year. That also should
help the Utes get their legs under them.
@skywalker, "btw, BYU only lost by 1 point at #8 Texas, a MUCH better
showing than anything Utah has done this year."Wait, losing a
game to a team that used several QBs while struggling in early season to find
it's way is more impressive than 54-10 on your rival's proud field? Or was
Utah's close loss at USC more impressive in your book? I guess you are what
they call a kool-aid drinker.
@UteanonymousDon't worry, I have never "Throughn" a temper
tantrum online. Interesting. I never pay much attention to Sagarin.
Kosta Fesenko "Texas is #8 in the country now? dang.......guess
I missed that one........"Then you don't know as much about
college football as you pretend to know.According to Sagarin, the
same rankings being cited by Utah fans for Utah and all of the other PAC 12
teams, Texas is ranked #8.But before you through a temper tantrum
and claim that the Sagarin ratings are "meaningless", just remember
that, unlike the AP poll, which Utah fans are fond of citing, even though it's
not in any way associated with the BCS, the Sagarin ratings will be utilized by
the Bowl Championship Series to help determine the two teams who will play in
the BCS championship game.
motorbikeI would suggest reading comprehension or consulting a
dictionary for definition of "dregs". MiP didn't refute a single word
of my post:"The only reason Utah fans are so confident that
Utah can win at least one of their last three games to become bowl eligible is
because Utah's new "rival", #130 Colorado, is one of the worst teams
in the country (there are 25 D1-AA ranked ahead of the Buffs) and Washington
State isn't a whole lot better.#87 Utah State - WAC#93 Oregon
State - PAC 12#94 Washington State - PAC 12#126 New Mexico State -
WAC#130 Colorado - PAC 12#135 Idaho - WACThe dregs of
the PAC 12 would fit right in with the dregs of WAC."
@skywalkerTexas is #8 in the country now? dang.......guess I missed
MiPActual pecking order in the PAC 126 Stanford 7
Oregon 19 Arizona State 20 Southern California 36 Washington
49 California 52 UCLA 42 Utah 67 Arizona 93 Oregon
State 94 Washington State 130 ColoradoCongratulations,
you're ahead of four teams that are ranked below:#60 Northern Iowa
1-AA#62 Arkansas State#66 Northern IllinoisWasn't 8th
place in the PAC 12 about where most fans were expecting Utah to finish?btw, BYU only lost by 1 point at #8 Texas, a MUCH better showing than
anything Utah has done this year.
midpacmajor -How do you feel about being absolutely exposed by MiP?
Any response?And MiP, thanks for giving us all the COMPLETE sagarin
ratings...I was headed there to do the same for our friend midpacmajor...it was
very obvious he/she had left a few teams out in a poor attempt to skew the facts
and con a few people.Bottom line, Utah is in a tough conference
now...it'll never be an easy feat to win the Pac-12. Take a look at the home and
away records of every team in the conference outside of Stanford and Oregon and
you'll see what every one was talking about when they said the Utah's, Boise
States and TCU's of the world would have a lot tougher time getting to a BCS
bowl game if they were in a tougher conference.As a Ute fan I admittedly
"get it" now and I'm fine with it. I'd rather lose to tough teams
every year with the hope of breaking through someday then go back to having your
ranking in question because you didn't play anyone.It's nice to be in a
real conference now.
What a game by Utah. Offense, Defense and Special Teams. All 3 phases came
together.John Hays is developing into a good qb. He could be our guy
for 2012.I cannot say enough about our defense. Holy Cow!Special Teams = Greg Bird---That guy is a beast! Thank you Greg Bird!UCLA is going to be an awesome game. Can't wait. Won't be able to focus all
week!It's great to be a Utah fan!GO UTES!
TJ,we have been over this again and again. Oregon and STanford are
not on the schedule next year....as far as the Utes "won't
beeat UCLA"? Are you going to show up when you are wrong on Saturday?
Here is the difference in viewpoints being in the Pac 12 vs the MWC: In the
MWC, you go to the Vegas Bowl if you go 10-2 or 11-1. I think everyone sees
that as a great record. In the PAC12, you go to the Vegas bowl at 6-6, on the
heals of a season like Utah has had this year. Bottom line, if Utah wins out,
they will not be in the Vegas Bowl. If they go 1-2, then they get the Vegas
bowl,which is exactly what a 6-6 team deserves.I have said it
before, but the Vegas bowl sucks if you win your conference or go 10-2 or 11-1
because you end up playing a middle of the pack team from the Pac 12. A 10-2 or
11-1 team deserves better than that. the biggest drawback for the MWC was that
they could never properly negotiate a real bowl contract.
They won't beat UCLA but I think they will beat WSU and CO. Not bad for the
first season in the PAC. Next year could be harder with Oregon and
Stanford although Stanford will probably not be nearly as good after Luck is
As far as Utah is concerned, the PAC 12 doesn't include Oregon and Stanford this
Bleed Crimson"I don't know why you Cougar fans take pride in
the Las Vegas Bowl..."And pray tell, what's the excuse for U,
coveting the opportunity to play there this December?The Utes 'Quest
for Las Vegas, Part Deux' is developing quite nicely.Afraid of the
match ups?Your hypocrisy is showing.
Pac 12 teams don't look at bowls other than the Rose Bowl as anything special.
It is Rose Bowl or bust. The other bowls are just that, other bowls.
"lol, talk of the "competitiveness" of the PAC 12 is quite a
spoof. The dregs of the PAC 12 would fit right in with the dregs of
WAC."midpacmajor Interesting you would quote (partially)
the Sagarin ratings as it has the PAC-12 4th among conferences and the WAC 10th
(including the indys), then try to equate the bottom feeders. The parity to
which bentheute speaks of describes the top to middle of the PAC-12. Every
conference has it's "dregs", ask Ole Miss.For those of you
wishing for a more complete record, to decide the great "spoof" for
yourself, here are the current rankings:PAC-12:6 Stanford
7 Oregon 19 Arizona State 20 Southern
California 36 Washington 42 Utah 49 California 52 UCLA 67 Arizona 93 Oregon State 94
Washington State 130 Colorado WAC:50 Nevada
69 Louisiana Tech 87 Utah State 89 Hawaii
(left out by midpacmajor, possibly because it's BYU's lone remaining
"good" game?) 103 Fresno State (left out, perhaps
becasue they are Ole Miss's lone FBS win)110 San Jose State (also left
out, possibly because it was another Y win) 126 New Mexico State
135 Idaho Colorado, the only 100+ rated PAC team.
SportsFan | 11:00 a.m. Nov. 6, 2011Besides, UCLA is now in the
driver's seat and the Bruins just beat the team that destroyed the Utes 35-14 in
RES.---------And Utah just destroyed Arizona the same
team that made UCLA look like cream cheese 48-12. Sorry, this is Utah's game to
lose with the #1 PAC-12 defense at RES.
bentheute | 8:40 a.m. Nov. 6, 2011ok stay with me here people...----------You lost me at "ok".ASU will win
the South and play Stanford for the PAC-12 title.Stanford, crossing
fingers, will win out and play LSU in the national title game. Andrew Luck will
show LSU what a real NFL QB looks like for the first time this season.Utah should finish 3rd behind USC in the South.8-4 is probable but
we need to finish the season playing like we did yesterday.Go UTES!!
Bleed Crimson It's easy to see why the Utes wouldn't take pride in
the Las Vegas Bowl3-26hang in there little brother,
there's still a chance you'll get to a bowl game this year.
does this mean that the utes are going to the rose bowl?
@ CaliforniaCougar"The Utes had a better shot at the Las Vegas
Bowl in the Mountain West, which was time and time again unreachable".When Utah wins Mountain West Conference Titles they play in BCS Bowl
Games. When BYU wins Mountain West Conference Titles they play in Vegas. I don't
know why you Cougar fans take pride in the Las Vegas Bowl.... Oh wait, I do
know! The Las Vegas Bowl is BYU's modern day Holiday Bowl. But, being
Independent you don't get to play in your most coveted bowl game anymore because
of your contracts with the Helicopter Bowl and the Kraft's Macaroni and Cheese
Bowl. lol. Hang in there Band of Little Brothers!
bentheute"parody in the pac 12 is the key to its
competitiveness."lol, talk of the "competitiveness"
of the PAC 12 is quite a spoof. The only reason Utah fans are so
confident that Utah can win at least one of their last three games to become
bowl eligible is because Utah's new "rival", #130 Colorado, is one of
the worst teams in the country (there are 25 D1-AA ranked ahead of the Buffs)
and Washington State isn't a whole lot better.#87 Utah State#93 Oregon State#94 Washington State#126 New Mexico State#130 Colorado#135 IdahoThe dregs of the PAC 12 would fit
right in with the dregs of WAC.
congrats to the Utes.
at bebtheute: UCLA just beat ASU..just sayin'
SportsFanand we just rolled over a team that DESTROYED UCLA...parody
in the pac 12 is the key to its competitiveness. i said improbable, but also
arizona st has to play a competitive CAL team and Washington St. Plus colorado
cant lost EVERY game. but like i said, whatever...unlikely. the chance that it
COULD happen though makes this season at least interesting.
It's not likely at all but for Utah to go to the PAC-12 championship, they need
to win out, Arizona St. needs to lose to Arizona and California and UCLA needs
to lose to Utah and USC.Arizona St. will probably not implode like
that but UCLA losing to Utah and USC could easily happen. With that, Utes would
just need to win out and they'd get to the Sun Bowl.Even if Utah
loses to UCLA they will still go to the Las Vegas Bowl. Not bad considering they
started 0-4 in conference play.
Hey, Utah State won! Sure glad the Utes didn't have to play them this year.
Nuff said! UCLA game should be interesting. This contest will show if Utah has
pulled all phases of their game together, finally.
bentheute"ASU loses out because they play like they did last
night"Wishful thinking. ASU lost to UCLA(5-4) on the road.
They're not going to lose to Arizona(2-7) at home.Besides, UCLA is
now in the driver's seat and the Bruins just beat the team that destroyed the
Utes 35-14 in RES.
"The Utes had a better shot at the Las Vegas Bowl in the Mountain West,
which was time and time again unreachable."The MWC Utes had
commitments to the Fiesta and Sugar bowl. The Las Vegas Bowl was equally
"unreachable" for TCU, and it looks like it will be
"unreachable" for Boise State this year.
A tale of two cities. Salt Lake City - UCLA visiting this week.
PAC-12 conference. Possible 8-4 season with 3 lossess to Top 25 teams. Although
it isn't "the best of times" (two undefeated seasons in last 10 years;
2 BCS bowl wins; beating Alabama in the Sugar Bowl: etc.) it is a Very Good
Year. Provo - Idaho visiting. "Nuff said!"
This was a fun game to watch! Utah came up with some huge plays on offense,
defense, and special teams. Utah haters have tried to spin this
victory as insignificant and meaningless but it's not. Arizona is better than
their record suggests. And with the adversity that Utah has seen with injuries
and shooting themselves in the foot with turnovers, this game was big.
Out where? most locals got it on KJAZZ.
Good solid effort by all phases. Hays has progressed. Special teams were
special. The stats were skewed by the garbage time offense by UA. GO UTES!UCLA is next. Keep on choppin'!
ok stay with me here people. utes win out and end up 8-4 and 3 wins in the
south. having beat UCLA they too will only have 3 wins in the south (assuming
they beat colorado and lose to USC). THEN ASU loses out because they play like
they did last night...3 way tie in the south...UTES have the better record and
go to the championship game. improbable-yes. impossible-no!
Congratulations to the Utes! Glad you won the game.
Coming from a Cougs fan, a hearty congrats on a well played game. This was a big
win for you guys. Well done.
2-4 in the Pac 12.The Utes had a better shot at the Las Vegas Bowl
in the Mountain West, which was time and time again unreachable.
It's too bad the game wasn't televised out here.
3 more for 8-4. UCLA is coming on. Let's get it pumped up next Saturday.