This is scary, I expect alot more out of this BYU team than what I am seeing...
Time for the Seniors to step up and perform and to challenge the younger players
to carry their own weight...We have a very good front line that will
help us in rebounds and post defense... But College Basketball is a Guard's
game.... Teams in the NCAA will go nowhere unless they have a solid guard line
and we are hurting there.... We need a solid triple threat guy on the Guard
Line. Someone that is quick enough to get to the rim and either finish or find
the open shooter... We don't have that...We are solid at the #3, the
#4, and even at the #5 (for a change).... We are even decent at the #2 (not
great but decent as we could use more quickness here on defense).... But we
simply have nothing at the #1.... December 17th can't get here too fast when we
will get Carlino but in the interim we need the back up guys to work on their
quickness on defense, and work on being a little more effective on penetration
Regardless as to how good or bad BYU is, look for Dixie to return to the Sweet
16 of the Div II tournament. This year they could win it all.
They were relatively uncontested shots. Had BYU played good defense that
percentage would and should have been lower.
Wow! Alot of coaches are posting.
VAggie, You obviously didn't get what I was saying, last night DSC shot lights
out (a given night). I will lay money USU will not hit 60% of their 3's against
Funny to read all the negativity from a bunch of people who don't get it... Who
cares that it was a close game... better than watching a blow out... and it was
better prep for USU than a blow out. Butler and Arizona (better programs than
byu) both lost to Div II teams in exhibition. BYU needs Rogers and Charles to
give consistent positive efforts on both ends of the floor (defending, not
shooting bad shots). Davies is an animal in the post, Hartsock has even learned
some post moves. Zylstra ran the show perfectly, the only problem was when he
needed a quick sub as Cusick got beat on the drive and turned it over and gave
up a 7pt lead in 2 minutes. BYU's defense needs to improve (considering Rogers
doesn't defend at all, nor other subs apparently could defend) but also consider
Dixie was shooting out of their minds. Dixie might shoot that well in maybe 3
more games all season... Cougs will do fine at Utah State
Cut out the nonsense? All right. (As Frank Layden so aply says.) The point is
BYU is going to have a long season. The WCC will expose them for what they are;
a vulnerable team, undersized, undermanned and looking for talented players. If
an ordinary Utah State Aggie team gives them trouble the next game in Logan,
then mark my words. Hey, and I'm a BYU fan when I say these things. Seriously,
a major college team; where are the seven footers and 6'10" guys at forward
and 6'5" plus in the backcourt? I know you have to be optimistic, but come
on people. The jury is out. Dixie State huh. Right.
Let's cut out the nonsense. If Rose had played his five starters the whole game
like normal, it would have been a blow out. A lot of the BYU bench warmers got
valuable minutes, and that is the biggest reason the game stayed close. In the
final two minutes, when the big dogs came back in the game, you saw how they put
up about 10 quick points, while keeping DS to only a couple of points, to seal
Guard play is weak, then again we did have the Jimmer last year. Gotta step it
up for the Aggies Ouch.
troutmanAll these AGgies are obviously jealous that they have never
had or ever will have a Jimmer Fredette. Whaddaya know, a team loses its best
player and they aren't quite as good. I have never seen that happen in sports
After that performance, I would have to give the edge to USU in the upcoming
matchup. BYU really struggles in the Spectrum and the Aggies will be ready and
hot. Poor defense against a good shooting team like USU? Bad combination.USU by at least 10. I'll be there cheering the Cougars on, though!
riddlemethis....both teams are young and need to learn to play as a
team... I was just saying lets be realistic and give both teams time to mesh and
don't do the i hate ur team garbage....go Cougars, Aggies, Wildcats, T-Birds and
The most embarassing thing about the game was the refs. That should not happen
in Provo. The final score means nothing. Dixie got ripped off. I am a Cougar fan
and that win left a worse taste in my mouth than any loss would have.
Give credit where credit is due- Dixie State is Great!!
Reality check of what? Dixie State is a Division II team. Sure they hit shots.
But the game shouldn't have been close. They are Division II BYU is Division I.
Its time BYU acted like it, instead of rationalizing almost getting beat by one.
Especially if BYU wants to make the claim to be one of the better D-I teams in
the nation. USU is much more athletic than Dixie, and has some very good 3 point
shooters. USU is guard strong with Pane, Medlin and Thoseby, which apparently
was the BYU weak spot.
BYU has be de-JIMMERED! We have some decent bigs, but the lack of guard play is
a concern. Jimmer was lucky to have Emery be the shut-down , defensive guard,
while he was able to control the tempo of the game. Zylstara shows some shooting
ability, but doesn't seem to control the game as well. Plus, there are no real
quick, defensive guards on the team. Carlino will help to run the team, when he
comes in Dec., but the team is going to struggle against good guards. The bigs
are only as good as the boys feeding them the ball. I'm hoping for a good year,
but have concerns. It reminds me of when Ainge moved on and the team took a big
step down following.
VAggie, if you think USU's offense in better than DSU's was last night you need
a reality check.This game showed me how badly the Coug's need Matt
Carlino, Zylstra is a really nice player but he's a 2 guard, there wasn't enough
of a flow offensively. The back up point guards are not going to cut it either.
Where was Winder while DSC was raining down 3's, even as a freshman he plays the
best D of the guards from what i've seen, I think he should be under
consideration as the back up point guard. I would have liked to have seen more
of Harrison and less of Abuo. One freshman mistake and he's on the bench while
Abuo made blunder after blunder and didn't play defense even close to his normal
self, seems to me mistakes are mistakes whether your a freshman or a senior.
Offensively DSU's shooting was off the charts, BYU was totally off from outside,
that's what kept the game close. Charles Abuo needs to quit listening to the
writers saying he needs to pick up some of the scoring slack, he's trying to do
to much, every time he goes one on one it ends up in disaster, a reality check
is needed with him. He needs to go back to the way he played last year,
scraping, hustling, crashing the boards and taking the open opportunity shots.
Duckhunted:"dont lower yourself to a troll."says the guy with the "duckhunted" moniker.This team is
very young and has the potential to be good. But there is a lot of work to
Looks like basketball season will not be kind to D-I basketball in the state of
Utah. Looking forward to the D-II tournament this year, though!
I guess life without Jimmer is going to take some getting used to. I expect BYU
to be a good deal worse than last year but at least they'll still be
@cgHey, Orem Troll.I'm sure Dave is taking notes.LOL
DS played a great game. Their shooting was in the zone. BYU, just the opposite.
Coach Rose will figure it out. At least they didn't lose to Adams State.
Dixie is good. BYU has work to do. Steven Rogers is the key.
Not a good sign for BYU thus far,... I was not impressed by any performance.
Where are the play makers and the defensive stoppers at the point of attack?
Dixie State dominated much of the game, especially with their post offense and
guard penetration. Looks like this is going to be a rebuilding year, but only
time will tell.
@troutman......I agree.I can wear my Utah State colors loud and
proud all year long. Tonight we will show the rest of the state how divIII
teams should be beat.
Wowww.. I was worried about this game because USU is also rebuilding. But dixie
state? Really? USUs offense is much better than Dixie's, and USU usually has
pretty good defense. IF BYU plays like this it wont be a 10 point spread, it'll
be USU by 20. But I expect BYU to bring it, after all it IS a rivalry.
no fit in SG"Maybe Jimmer will return? Heard he is among
the jobless."In reality, a pending contract that will pay him
more in the next five years, than you'll earn in your lifetime, but we wouldn't
expect our Dixie troll to understand the "high math" of that
equation.-----------------------It was very obvious last
night that this is a rebuilding BYU team that's going to take some time to gel
as a time. The Cougars have alot of good players who are still adjusting to
their roll. I'd be very surprised if BYU doesn't lose to the Aggies by 10+, but
with Rose as their coach and the addition of Carlino in late December, they'll
be much better when the WCC season starts and another 25+ win, NCAA tournament
season is still realistic.Abouo needs to stop missing little bunnies
under the hoop and BYU needs to show more energy on defense.
Wa aggie, thanks for the update. I guess you can't rely on USU's own
websites.BYU does have a chance after all.
Payara, you are just a little behind. Pooh and Green are gone. Pooh playing
pro and green knocking doors as a missionary.What the y will get
Friday is a big dose of Pane and some Medlin.
Maybe Jimmer will return? Heard he is among the jobless.
Look, BYU basketball will not be very good this year, and they will probably
lose by 10+ in Logan. Y fans know this already, especially seeing they are
ranked 3rd in the preseason WCC. But please stop with the ref whining above
(seriously, you complain about reffing in an exhibition game, last year's
BYU-USU basketball game and this year's BYU-USU football game...that's just
Abouo should not be shooting 3s.
There were more fans at this exhibition game than the TUN will see for any home
game this year.Hartsock was solid all night.This was the
best game I've ever seen Zylstra play. Although it's apparent that he would be
more natural at the 2 spot, he was solid at PG. He was impressive.Davies and Rogers stepped up the last 5 minutes of the game to seal the
deal.The game next week will determine the state championship for
BB. It will take a much better effort, especially on D, to get past the Aggies.
Hey Zona Zone there is a reason for such a foul difference. Dixie State was
hacking like crazy. If you don't want a lot of fouls, then don't hack at
people. Having said that Dixie did what they had to. They didn't want to give
up easy baskets and made BYU earn their points. I am disappointed that BYU
struggled so much against a DII team, yes a very good DII team, but a DII team
none the less. At least BYU didn't lose to a DII school like Utah did last
night. Adams State beat Utah by one last night. HA. HA. HA.
Zona, agreed....refs were calling some ticy tac on Dixie's bigs. Zylstra and
Rogers may be scoring points and that may be the reason nither guard thinks they
have to play defense. USU will kill BYU with their guard play. Be ready for at
least 10 3's and numberous layups from Greene and Pooh Williams. Inside BYU is
solid but the guards show little interset in getting the ball down low, they
would rather jack up a three.Rooting for the Cougs... but all I see
now are some very slow guards with a history of weak defense. Usu wins by 10
What a disappointment! I was underwhelmed!Dixie State played great.
BYU played shadow defense. Abouo was putrid and a total liability.Come on, Cougars! Get your act together or USU will kill you in Logan.
Good thing we don't have DS on our football schedule. Would we want the
BYU's been JIMMERED!
BYU's addition of more scorers coulld offset for Jimmer, but I just don't see
anyone who can take the place of Jackson on defense. I see NIT this year, NCAA
next year, and 2nd Round the following.
Sounds like some of the BYU players are a little worried about playing the USU
AGGIES in Logan next Friday night! As well as they should be. I will tell you
basketball junkies right now....USU will really miss TAI WESLEY but this years
team is more guard oriented and USU's guards are going to eat byu's guards
alive. Mark it!As far as officiating, since when can anybody beat
byu in Provo? They always, I say always get the benefit of Calls in Provo.
Last year if there hadn't have been the fantom Call on Tai Wesley, USU would
have beaten byu then, but the refs always bail them out in Provo. Just like in
football this year in Provo. McCade Brady and the fantom so called helmut
hit....If byu brings there refs I guarantee that they will see to it that
another Aggie player gets kicked out of the game. byu can never play on an
equal playing field or court it seems. Despite the perhaps officiating next
week. The Aggies will win by 10. Good luck Stephen Rogers and your first visit
to the Spectrum in Logan. Good luck to all the newbies, Spectrum magic awaits
cougar 93Glad we have a coach like Coach Rose. He actually knows how many
time outs his team has left.yes Utah made a bad decision...and it's going
to b a tough season for my UTES.Don't lower yourself to a troll... go Utes go
Does anyone even care about Womens Basketball?
If we want to beat USU, we need a much better performance by Abouo. Let's hope
he can have a better touch next week. It would help if he got some shots off of
It was fun to watch both Judkins brothers coach in the MC on the same night.Congrats Jon on bringing in a well prepared team.Good luck
There are a lot of growing pains to get worked out but this game will do a lot
for the Cougars down the road. It is always good to have a tight game and win
it at the end. It teaches your team so many great things but mostly how to win.
It may not have been the blow out many were expecting but this team will be
alright post Jimmer. It will get even better win Carlino comes on board.Glad we have a coach like Coach Rose. He actually knows how many time
outs his team has left.
Dixie State should have won that game. The foul calls were an embarrassing
disparity, particularly down the stretch when the Red Storm's post players were
fouled out of the game on plays that replays showed had no contact whatsoever.
It was a bad night for the referees. Still, Dixie State played great. They
showed why they were in the Sweet 16 in D-II last year, and the way they played
tonight, you got to expect them to be back. BYU, meanwhile, looks OK. They've
got somewhere to do defensively, but offensively, they should be strong. I was
impressed by Zylstara. Go Red Storm! Go Cougars!