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Logan...in a blow out.
Logan is the best and most talented team that I have seen in 4A this year,
regardless of their perceived "classless" insertion of their starters
(just plain foolish as far as I can tell". I truly don't think that there
is a team in 4A that can beat them if they all play their best games, but, as we
know, especially in HS football, ....on any given day! With that being said, I
think that Highland (at full strength) or east (at full strength) can possibly
present some difficulty to Logan, First, Logan has not had to play a game in
which they have had to battle for 4 quarters to win, secondly, both Highland and
East have a physicality that Logan does not have much experience with. Both
teams are capable of long, time consuming drives that results in scores. The key
is not Logan's offense, but Logan's defense. If their "D" can control
the game, Logan wins handily, if not, very interesting!
Stang08 sounds like Mitch Jessop, haha you are just upset because you guys went
7-5 including a LOSS to timpview, guess thats what happens when you start
Freshman QB Kuresa.
I'm actually not going to be quiet until you provide some semblance of a valid
arguement or point that makes sense.I don't just think logan is the better of
the two teams,they are better in nearly every single statistical category.
Common opponents, east and bountiful There aren't "a lot of better
teams" out there. Logan blew out both east and bountiful, they're
undefeated (remind me who else is without a loss in 4A?) I don't make excuses,
all I've said every single time is that logan will win, so far my prediction
record 11-0, yours 0-11. For what its worth, Logan averages 45.9 points per game
while only giving up 15.5 a game on the flipside, Highland scores 34.1ppg and
allows 19.9. Common opponents include east and bountiful. Logan went 2-0 in
those games with a combined score of 102-45. Highland went 0-2 with a combined
score of 49-3. Highland wont stop DJ. He's thrown for 2636 yards this year
including 40 touchdowns (both more than chase hansen for what its worth) and
rushed for 1287 yards and 20 TD's. Good luck.
I don't make excusses. That is the logan fans. Both teams are good. I believe
Highland is better. You believe Logan is. We shall just see what happnes. If
Logan wins then congrats. They will not come away with a title. There are just
to many better teams out there to win it. If Highland wins will you give credit
or come up with an excuse? That's all the people on the Herald Journal do.
Good luck to both teams and braydan please be quiet.
I do find it strange that your posts (stang) continually are the same.
"Logan will get dominated this week by the -insert current week
opponent-" logan will be tested by the highland rams, but not beaten. I
highly respect their program and they have a talented team and good coaching.
Logan just has too many weapons, phenomenal coaching, and they show no signs of
slowing down. Highlands biggest weakness is their pass defense, whereas logans
biggest strength is their passing game. Its inevitable that they will pull
players out of the box to compensate, and open up logans running game for
schmidt and nelson. What will your excuse be to discredit logan when they win
state? I'm interested to read it. For what its worth, I do need to compliment
herrimans young program. To be as successful as they have been in just 2 short
years is nothing less than amazing. Hats off to you. My prediction Logan:45
Anything can happen in football!! remember that.
@plebianThe Rams will beat the grizzlies. It's a fact and even the
grizzlies know it. Good luck to both teams but I hope Highland runs Logan over.
Sorry to burst the East High mantra of the coach purposefully throwing the Logan
game. Not true. Sorry false hope and pride are very unattractive.
The scoreboard reflected the story very accurately. The Grizz are the class of
the 4A schools in 2011 no doubt.I was at the game and the Mustangs
simply did not have enough weapons. The Huge QB was awesome, loved his style and
hard play. The running backs again tough, big, and super low center of gravity
when they got there shoulders square running north and south they would be all
the Grizz could handle.Sadly the Mustangs could not sustain a long
drawn out drives against the very good and nasty Grizz defense.Yes
DJ was to much to handle for the Mustang defense and the Logan High Grizz
rightfully prevailed.Next up a tough bunch of Rams from Highland.
This will be a very good test for the Grizz.
Highland has the best shot at beating Logan. They are dangerous with the qb
being back...but, I don't think it is enough. Hope not.I worry about
a healthy Highland more than East. All the remaining teams, except Westlake,
seem good enough to beat anyone on any given day--well, perhaps every other
given day against Logan. (no offense intended Westlake...but MC is iffy, and
there is no signature victory...prove me wrong).
@MMMustangs/@GoStangs - I agree...Logan/Nelson was awesome...due to 4 straight
turnovers...the score should have been more like 42-21 or 42-28. Logan will be
hard to stop.In regards to the senior issue...its hard to say either
way. I think its the philosophy of the coach to build for next year/future. I
actually agree with the direction he is going...because at this point he really
has no other choice. The past 2 years he has had to establish a young base of
players to give them experience that they can then pass on to those coming
behind them.I think the plan is coming into shape because next year
we will have an all-senior, all-returning starter defensive backfield. Our
linebacker corp will all be returning starters...2 will be juniors and 1 will be
a senior. Our line will still be young, but 2 will be returning starters. Same
on offense...2 of our 3 receivers/TE will be returning starters and our QB and
TB will be returning starters. Our O-Line will be young, but should have some
returing starters too.
How many coaches start every senior in the program on senior night, regardless
of where they are on the depth chart? Cause that is what Herriman did against
Clearfield. That's what Senior Night is for. It is an insult to the program to
think that they would put anything less than their best personnel on the field
in a playoff game or any other, though. If this program is all about building
for the future, why have they not done what most first and second year schools
do and just play all the young kids from the get go? They played a ton of
seniors last year when they could have just built for the future, and this
year's senior class was smaller in number than last year's. If this year's
juniors were better players than a lot of the seniors, that is not called
building for the future, it is called putting your best kids on the field.
Playing time still has to be earned. I counted 8 seniors who were starters this
year and who did not play much last year, and only a couple were studs, the rest
were pretty average.
There were several parents by me yelling to put in the Seniors. The reserves
they put in were obviously not the seniors. Nice job coaches, way to reward the
kids who have given 2 years to help build up your program. One lady was very
upset. I actually felt bad for her. The team was built around the Junior class,
which will dominate next year. At least the OC figured out they need to throw to
the TE more, which they did the last few games and he was a stud and one of the
bright spots for Herriman on Sat.
Hey just sayin' I thought Woods Cross was good. Well at least you won....ummm..
well at least you scored.
Logan was awesome and Nielson lived up to the hype. When he scrambled, the
Herriman D was just way too slow. He looked like he was playing a video game.
HHS did not have their best game throwing, but it would not have mattered.
Herriman's only chance was to pound the ball and keep the Logan O off the field.
Turning the ball over at midfield a few times in the 3rd was a disaster. I read a few comments about the starters/backups. Ask anyone who has
gone to HHS games, they are playing for the future. If the senior was not a
clear cut stud, they never played. The special teams and backups they basically
moved up Sophs. The coaches are trying to get them experience for the future.
Basically the way a college team is run. I personally don't think a HS team
should be run that way. What kind of message does that send to a Senior that is
not a starter next year? Might as well hang it up. Contrast that with Alta,
Bingham and Timpview every year have several first year starters as seniors. It
keeps the juniors working hard in the offseason.
Wow, I thought the Mustangs were good? Oh well, it least they won the play-in
game. That's something to hang your hat on.
Remember folks, East rested a ton of guys against Logan and even when they
brought some of them in, they were just flat uninspired and not mentally ready
to play because they were not planning on getting in. I do not know if the
result will be different, cause Logan is really freaking good, but I would be
curious to see East at full strength. Highland could cause Logan some problems
but I am just not sure if there is a defense out there who can defend them.
I hope we can play PHYSICAL football this Friday. Our DBs have a lot of work to
do, Passing teams usually put up a lot of points on the RAMS. It will be a high
scoring game and i believe we can hang with Logan if our offense can keep up. I
trust coach Benson, Wyn and Jensen, i know they will prepare these boys with a
perfect gameplan. Fish and Sione are great, but its those undersized O-Line boys
that are the heart of our offense.anything can happen in football,
that is what makes this sport special.Goodluck RAMS and may the best
@KSDBN - I have a son that is a junior starter on the Herriman defense. Next
year I will have a senior and a freshman on the team. So I am Herriman all the
way. As far as Bingham, I have a couple of nephews on this years team and over
the past 6 years have had about 5 nephews that have played for Bingham and 1
cousin that has coached for Bingham.@markymark - As I have stated in
an earlier post, per UHSAA...any play-in game is considered the playoffs. Its
similiar to the play-in games that occur during the NCAA basketball
tournament.Of the 4 quarterfinal games in 4A...I believe the Logan
vs Highland game and the Timpview vs Westlake game will be the most exciting.
In the other 2 games....I believe Olympus is able to handle Bountiful and the
East vs Skyline game is a toss up. I believe East has the better team, but
Skyline has the better coaching.Herriman starts today on rebuilding
for the 2012 run. 5 starters need to be replaced, but Herriman will be a more
experienced team next year. GO MUSTANGS!!!!
Lone Peak beat Bingham 45-24. You would be a fool to think that was just a
fluke. Bingham for thrashed soundly, and unless something terrible happens like
Chase Hansen's arm falls off I really don't have much faith in the Miners doing
any better. Bingham's history is irrelevant here. Their past victories don't
help them on the field which Lone Peak showed them all night long @ Bingham High
School.Don't even get me started on what OL:C did to them. 42-7.
my team is out4A Highland goes does this week. I wouldnt count
Timpview out. I know they are flying under the radar...just like they like it.
They snuffed Logans offense very easily last year, so they know the scheme. I
wouldnt just mark East in the Finals. If you do, you are crazy. I think the TV
and East game will be good, with TV winning.I also think Bntfl beats
Oly. And Logan beats Bnftl again, but 35-21. TV vs Logan in the Finals. And I
am taking Logan 42-35. But it will be a barn burner to watch.So SLC
schools will lose both 4A and 5A titles. Lone Peak wins the 5A (big shocker).
4A a healthy Highland and 5A is Bingham. If you don't think I am right you
should look at it this way. The best QB in the state in Smithson is back for
Highland. He's the heart of the Highland offense. And Bingham has the longest
win streak in state history, they are consistantly good every year. Unlike the
grizzlies. And they have what 3 or 4 straight 5A titles. You would be a fool
to pick against either team. I know Logan is #1 but Highland is back and
powerful as usual.
Gerri an still hasn't won a playoff game, they won a play-in game. That's not
the playoffs, that is to get to the playoffs. My previous comment was talking
about DJs brother, not him. I was just making refference to poor decision making
in the tcu game, but I was just kidding.
BigBenzo, I thought you were a Bingham guy?
I really don't see any realistic upset coming for Logan or Lone Peak this year.
The one school that I thought could beat Logan was East, and they got
demolished. A rematch could be interesting to watch, but I don't think the
outcome will change. Logan is a well oiled machine this year, and no one in 4A
is up to the task. Highland might have a shot, but I wouldn't bet on it.Far as 5A goes. Lone Peak all the way. Likely without even much effort
Good on you Pleblian for stepping up and giving Region 5 their credit. Now it's
time to really find out who the toughest region this weekend. It would be no
surprise to see all the #1 seeds advance but I'll be cheering on Westlake and
Skyline (even though it pains me). They both have a good chance.If
Westlake's LB's and DB's hold up early, that D-line will create havoc all day.
They're still the best D-line I've seen all year so far. Timpview has toque it
a track meet or they'll get grinded.If Skyline keeps it close like
Orem did against East, they will win with Coach Dupaix and his staff outcoaching
Matich. East better pull away early.
Herriman was a good team. Given how well they controlled the line of scrimmage
on offense, I was surprised the game got as out of hand as it did. One thing
which is obvious, Logan missed its three defensive starters. I wonder if Favero
will allow them to play next game. Administration made their statement, Favero
never did.As for the rest of Region 7, I stand corrected. I thought
they were the weakest region coming in, and they dominated Region 5. Surprise.
Herriman, 8-4, did not look like a #4.
Congratulations to the Herriman Mustangs football team. Good game against a
very strong Logan team. This was an incredible season with a record of 8-4, 2nd
straight playoff berth in 2 years and 1st playoff win.Herriman
doubled in wins from last year going from 4-7 to 8-4. The 4 losses to Skyline,
Olympus, Westlake and Logan were hard fought games to some really good teams.
All 4 losses were to teams that have advanced to the 4A quarterfinals.
Congratulations to Region 7 for getting 3 teams in the quarterfinals and
continue to represent in the state playoffs.Tomorrow is the time to
start rebuilding for the 2012 Region 7 & State Championship run. Herriman
only loses 2 starters on offense and 3 starters on defense.@Adam -
Per UHSAA, the play-in game is a playoff game. Your comments again underline
the lack of personal development that many posters have. I have no regrets for
anything I post on here because they are what I truly believe. I do not put
down any other schools...only uplift Herriman. The fact that you can find
something bad in my comments says a lot about you.GO MUSTANGS!!!!
Then why we're the Herriman parents doing yells in unison to get all the seniors
in the game with just a few minutes to go.
@hsfbfan#1 - completely accurate. SoUtHapa, you make wrong and innacurate
assumptions. Maybe better to find out the facts first. Cannot for the life of me
understand why Logan's coach would be so foolish to risk an injury to ANY of his
starters, not just his QB, with 3 minutes to go in a game with a running clock
and a bunch of 2nd/3rd string defense players in for Herriman mostly 9th and
10th graders with some very seldom used seniors, and a win "in the
bag". Congrats to Coach Wilson for letting those players stay in the game
and having a well deserved experience in a playoff game. I'm sure that there
were some Logan players who deserved the same. JMHO.
I don't think Logan will get past Highland if they do Bountiful or Olympus will
have a crack at them. After all that they will have to face East which will be
waiting for them.
You don't onsides kick the ball when you are getting killed. When the leading
team concedes and puts subs in, the losing team can still try to score, but you
don't onsides kick the ball and try to score on the 2nd team. It is classless
and I think most coaches would do what Logan's did.
Enjoy some good reading from a few Herriman posters this year: This is
the team to beat in 4A. Now, Deseret News you need to rank them in your Top 5.
Way to go Mustangs! Posted by: UteFan21 in August.12 more wins until we
get the Utah 4A State Championship!!!I am predicting a Football 4A State title
for Herriman in either 2011 or 2012...and possibly both years. (Posted by:
BigBenzo88 in August).I played for 15 years at almost every level. I know
what to look for in players and teams...and Herriman is a good team. They will
make they playoffs, get Region 7 crown or runner up and don't be surprised if
they get to Rice-Eccles. Next year they will be a pre-season favorite for the
Region 7 crown and for the 4A Championship (BigBenzo88 in September)Congrats to Herriman on their 2nd playoff berth and 1st playoff
win!!!(BigBenzo8) NOTE: A play-in game is NOT a playoff game Benzo!
(DJ) Nelson just played against Herriman and apparently markymark he was good
enough and then some...
@markymarkObviously an expert. With all the experience you have, an
opening for a D1 coaching position should be in your cards.
Nope, just don't think he is a good qb. He looks good against Idaho state, but
when he plays a decent team he loses the game for them.
Herriman's offense played 1 series against Logan's 2nd defense. Herriman's
starting defense did not play a snap against the 2nd offense from Logan.
Herriman subbed in their 2nd defense, who got a pick 6 on Logan's 2nd offense.
Herriman's 2nd offense then got a 2 point conversion against Logan. Herriman
tried and failed with an onside kick which any team would do when down. There
were 3 minutes left and Logan was up by 27 points when they put their starting
offense back in, against, Herriman's sophomore defense. With 3 minutes left,
the starting offense for Logan was throwing deep for a TD. Completely
markymark,Sour grapes?Football lesson, coach: Maybe Logan put the
1st team back in because you still had yours in beating up on Logan's back ups
of back ups. Having not been there, I can only guess this is what was happening.
If so, when an obviously dominating coach gives you the opportunity to let some
of your back ups get some state playoff time by pulling his 1st team, it's a
good idea to humbly accept the gesture.
Does anyone know if those boys that stole from their teammates played? If so,
shame on the coaches and administration.
Logan wont win it. Mark my words.
@markymark Right, because HS and college players are identical in
skill, talent and experience.
Hope his brother took some notes last night
Watched DJ Nelson and Logan dismantle CWood earlier this year. They are by far
the best team in 4A. They drilled #2 East!! Anything less than a championship
will be an epic failure for sure!!!
This was a cake walk!
Gotta love the grizzlies! Look for hem in the championship game and don't be
suprised if the win it big. This is a great team with great talent. I don't
know if DJ will be a good college QB but he very exciting to watch...just like
his big brother. This team playes with alot of Grit and Heart. Fun to watch.
D.J. Nelson threw for 6 touchdowns and ran for 2. The article says he threw for
5 touchdowns. Just for a point of clarity.