BYU basketball: Cougars picked to place 3rd in WCC; Gonzaga first


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  • VAggie Bristow, United States
    Oct. 30, 2011 3:55 p.m.


    Anyone who thought BYU was just going to waltz in and dominate a conference that consistently has a team in the tournament to go multiple rounds, has a basketball knowledge that probably ends at the word Jimmer.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 29, 2011 8:24 a.m.

    At 1-2 instead of 0-3 against the WCC maybe the utes aren't irrelevant after all...

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 29, 2011 8:19 a.m.


    You're right. 2 not 3.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 28, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    I'm thinking BYU finishes 2nd, and sneaks into the NCAA tourney as a lower seed. Provided Davies stays on the team. Not bad after losing the POY.

    But being in the Big-12 would be better.

    "Actually irrelevant is losing 3 games to the WCC last year and being picked to finish last in your conference this year, not being able to get an alum to help coach the team, 4 losing seasons in 6 years, and 8 players transferring last year."

    Why do BYU fans keep thinking Utah lost 3 WCC games last year? Apparently beating Pepperdine counts as a loss?

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 28, 2011 1:36 p.m.


    Sorry to burst your bubble, but the WCC has only been a one team conference in the NCAA tournament in recent history and there is no sign this will change. Last year was a perfect example. St. Mary's had basically the same regular season record going into the conference tournament. Gonzaga won the tournament and St. Mary's got left out of the Big Dance. More bad news, you only beat St. Mary's by one point with Jimmer. That could be a tough match up without him.

    So finishing 3rd or even 2nd will not cut it from the WCC.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Oct. 28, 2011 12:19 p.m.

    Re: MESOUTE "I guess I really had a hard time believing it until it finally came down. BYU basketball is competing in the West Coast Conference." On a yearly basis, compare the MWC and MCC teams make it to the NCAA Tournmanet "dance." Outside of the Marriot, the arena's are obviously smaller, but the brand of basketball is not that much different between the MWC & WCC. When the Y left the MWC (the best decision the athletic department & school has made) and the football team goes independent, what other options were out there? I bet you won't see much difference between the number of schools the MWC and WCC send to the Tournament this next season. We'll see. I'm just glad we still get the Cougs to come to San Diego to play the University of San Diego.

  • MESOUTE Wandering, Earth
    Oct. 28, 2011 11:43 a.m.

    Classic, just classic. I guess I really had a hard time believing it until it finally came down. BYU basketball is competing in the West Coast Conference. And picked 3rd to boot. This is not good, not good at all for the BY.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Oct. 28, 2011 11:23 a.m.

    I'm fine with the 3rd place pick. How predictable are these "pre-season" picks anyhow? BYU is a new entity to the WCC. As it came down in the MWC, the "easy" NCAA Tourney pick will come down to the conf. championship. If that's different from the regular season champion, a 2nd WCC pick will all depend on who strong the rest of the major conferences are. When major conferences had a down year, more MWC & WCC seem to get into the conference. So, BYU's single goal, leaving nothing up to speculation, will be to win the WCC Tournament, not necessarily the league championship. I'm excited to see how all the pieces fit together. We'll be younger than young this season-- a ton of Freshman. Let's go, Cougs.

  • Byron Belka Holladay, UT
    Oct. 28, 2011 10:55 a.m.

    Apparently the voters didn't know that Davies was coming back.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 28, 2011 10:28 a.m.


    "I would love to measure how many more eye balls see BYU BB than Ute BB."

    Probably a lot. I'm pretty sure forcing prisoners to watch Ute BB was one of the controversial "enhanced interrogation techniques" used at Gitmo.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Oct. 28, 2011 9:29 a.m.

    BYU will be overpowered by frontlines at Gonzaga and St. Marys. They need some taller players with some beef on them. The problem regardless of their being outsized and outquicked by black players is the high school gyms they will be playing in. The WCC basketball facilities are atrocious. How can these teams think they are national teams by not providing proper courts. No national team will ever come to play them on their home floors. They all have to barnstorm and play more nationally recognized teams away and never get home and home agreements. This conference is a joke. BYU losses in these venues will be a detriment to them. They will become a perpetual NIT team. Recruiting topline basketball players to play at BYU will always be an issue. Just because BYU made the final 16 last year means little for the future.

  • David A Orem, Utah
    Oct. 28, 2011 9:14 a.m.

    Byu will win more games in the WCC than the Utes will win in the PAC 12 in the next two years or maybe three years.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Oct. 28, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    Judging by BYU's front-line size this year, I don't see the Cougars finishing 3rd. Preseason might be sketchy until newcomers get acclimated, but by WCC time, BYU will be rollin'!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Oct. 28, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    Why are the Ute trolls so pocessed with gym size? Last year the Utes wouldn't have been able to fill the smallest gyms in the WCC. Will you support your team this year, or just continue to make degrading comments about others to try and bolster your bruised ego because your team is not competitive?

    BYU will be seen by millions more viewers this year than last year with the new ESPN contract. I would love to measure how many more eye balls see BYU BB than Ute BB.

    When nobody watches your team, you've become irrelevant.

  • Deep Thoughts Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 28, 2011 8:39 a.m.


    Time to get a new schtick. You've beaten this one to death.

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 28, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    When your games are televised and your fan base is national, gym size does not indicate audience size.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 9:56 p.m.

    3rd behind Gonzaga and St. Mary's sounds right. Over the recent years the WCC has generally had 2-3 teams in the tournament so getting in the top two or winning the conference tournament should get BYU in. If they're third and don't win the tournament then they'd be borderline NCAA tournament/NIT tournament.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 9:50 p.m.

    We will easily win this conference and advance to the final 8 in the NCAA tournament.

  • TheCrow American Fork, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 9:27 p.m.

    Gym size is so over rated! Would you rather play in a packed 5,000 seat arena or a empty Huntsman Center with 12,000 empty seats?

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 9:07 p.m.

    BYU is way underrated by the coaches in the WCC. They will come in 1st in a close battle with Gonzaga. St. Mary's will be third, with the others all far behind. BYU and Gonzaga easily make the NCAA tournament, St. Mary's may get in.

  • Pawps Sandy, Utah
    Oct. 27, 2011 8:51 p.m.

    Coach Rose can't be excited playing in a High School Gyms can he?
    Is any of this WCC effecting his recruiting?

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Oct. 27, 2011 8:24 p.m.

    re: sportsfanforlife

    Definitely not a joke. BYU, Gonzaga, and St. Mary's all have a good chance to make the tournament. And although the Pac-10 had a better season last year, remember how bad they were in 2009-10. If BYU, Gonzaga, and St. Mary's have good seasons, I don't see the committee leaving the Gales out again. And I don't see the Pac-12 getting more than 3 bids. And that's if they play near the level of last season rather than the level of the season before.

    One thing I'm positive won't happen this year: Utah getting a berth in the tournament.

  • Bluecat82 Minneapolis, MN
    Oct. 27, 2011 7:18 p.m.

    How refreshing is it to be part of a conference that appreciates you rather than rides your coattails and then complains how you're wearing that coat...

  • cougarNV Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 27, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    I for one am excited to play for a championship! Having been raised in St Mary's country, and knowing USF basketball I look forward to watching the games.

    Gonzaga is going to be great again I hope.

    Go Cougars!

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    "the wcc will have more teams in the ncaa tourney than the pac 12" hahahahahahahahah that has to be a joke.

  • che loco Springville, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 6:10 p.m.


    The Cougs are so irrelevant that you just had to be the first to comment on this article...

    Enjoy those empty seats at the Huntsman Center... again...

  • Bay Area Dude San Ramon, CA
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:52 p.m.

    I think you're just a little ungrateful. Out here in the Bay Area Cougar fans are freaking stoked!! With St. Marys, UCSF and Santa Clara right here in our backyard, we will be seeing the Cougs (and Utes when they play Cal and Stanford)...often!

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:52 p.m.

    NevadaCoug: BYU will win more games in the WCC this season than Utah will win in the Pac-12 -- in basketball and football combined.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:48 p.m.

    C'mon, the MWC has consistently been a much better conference than the WCC in basketball. Gonzaga has had a few good runs, but the MWC seems to get 3 teams in the NCAAs almost every year. With Utah gone and some odd new teams joining the MWC, I can see the WCC being as good or better in basketball.

    Getting used to the tiny venues will be odd though. And it just feels strange to see teams coming to town that you have barely heard of because they have no DI football teams. It will be an adjustment, but nice to have BYU on TV more often.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:26 p.m.


    "is anybody at all excited about being in the wcc? BYU is quickly becoming irrelevant."

    Actually irrelevant is losing 3 games to the WCC last year and being picked to finish last in your conference this year, not being able to get an alum to help coach the team, 4 losing seasons in 6 years, and 8 players transferring last year.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:19 p.m.

    Isn't the WCC the conference that the Y was going to dominate iand now their picked 3rd in basketball? Oh my heck!

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:17 p.m.

    I still think BYU should have joined the Big Sky for other sports. The WCC was a one-bid conference last year, even with a good St. Mary's team. The man crush the NCAA committee has on Gonzaga is still there, but a couple of bad years could end that. Smaller gyms, time zone differences, one-bid, with this being the case, the Big Sky could have been a better offer.

    I know some BYU fans are pulling out the smelling salts at me even suggesting it, but an injured Weber State team (star player was out of the lineup) only lost by 5 points to one of the most talented teams BYU has put on the floor, and the Wildcats finished third in the league. I think the competition from top to bottom is much better than the WCC, and it could have heated up a local rivalry and made economic sense. I bet if you ask the coaches and players of all the sports teams, they would have preferred it as well.

    Oh well, good luck with the WCC. Be sure to set your DVR to watch the games the next day.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:14 p.m.

    Fact: BYU will win more games in the WCC this season than Utah will win in the Pac-12.

    Good possibility: WCC will have as many or more teams in the NCAA tourney than the Pac-12.

    The WCC is right. They got the best school from the Mtn West. BYU may not be the best any one sport, but they are one of the most well-rounded athletic programs in the nation.

  • Bo Diddley Tech SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:13 p.m.

    Disagree Patriot! The WCC has some quality teams, and I for one am excited to play Gonzaga twice, and St. Mary's is good as well. The TUN is more on the irrelevant side.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    They'll do better than U will do in the PAC 10.2. Last year they had Conzaga's number in Denver so I look for a close conference race.

    Utah, on the other hand, has been irrelevant for some time and will continue to follow that path for a few years at the least. Then maybe they'll snap out of it, just like the Jazz, right?

    So what's your point, Patriot, other than you don't like BYU?

  • billysworkshop PROVO, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:09 p.m.

    For Basketball? This is definitely a better and more competitive league than the Mountain West... Of course I am excited.

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    Much, much more relevant than the last place utes.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 27, 2011 4:53 p.m.

    is anybody at all excited about being in the wcc? BYU is quickly becoming irrelevant.