Comments about ‘TSA inspections don't work for armed nation’

When the TSA first started screening airline passengers in 2001 I was stopped because I had a tiny pair of scissors in a sewing kit with my carry on luggage. It's hard to understand that they detected those yet miss firearms and explosives so often.

"A few months ago I wondered whether TSA agents looking through grandma's diapers were capable of inspecting folks intelligently at the airport. Now I'm beginning to wonder whether much intelligent life exists among the people being inspected".

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The minute grandma isn't subject to inspection is the minute that terrorists decide to make use of grandma to do their terrorist deed.

TSA is doing its job if it is picking up the guns in inspections. And who would be stupid enough to try to carry on a gun? Total idiots to try it. And why do we need to be an armed nation? It is so ludicrous.

Re: Another Perspective, I don't think so. Its been 10 years since 9/11 and they have not been able to mount an attack on us since. TSA has little to do with that. There isn't even historical precedence for your claim. TSA is a giant waste of money that takes hygiene items from paying customers, a smoke screen. TSA is not any more capable of stopping a terrorist than Grandma.

There's no doubt that we can continually be working on how to make airport security more effective and less intrusive, but the lack of any hijackings since the mass murders of 2001 are evidence that they're doing something right.

"So, probable cause has officially given way to if the slightest possibility exists(no matter how improbable) that someone could do something rash." (Goby News, 7/8/11, author "lono") The TSA even admits to a 70% failure rate in screener testing 2004-2005, with 21.9 million domestic airline departures during that time period, carrying nearly 1.5 BILLION passengers (source; Bureau of Labor Statistics) ... and all of that with no - NO - incidents... not here, not anywhere in the world. This emperor indeed hath no clothes. Let me ask you: if you are in a large restaurant (capacity 200-250 or so) eating dinner, do you know if anyone there has a CCW permit? The answer is yes, there would most certainly be someone. Are you afraid? The answer is probably no...the thought never crossed your mind. What we need here is a stop to the paranoia that's been expensively consuming this country. I for one would place much more faith and trust in my fellow passengers than to the circus we have now.

Esquire,

Go back to sleep. You clearly are not aware of how the world operates.

If you cared at all you would do something about the drug problem in your city of Springville. It is going on all around you. Clearly, you are snoozing and don't care.

Let the people who actually care worry about guns.

thanks.

While in DaVinci Airport in Rome years ago waiting for my flight home, I read this on the sign telling what (among other things) was prohibited in one's carry-on luggage: "No harpoons or catapults."

I had to leave my trebuchet in Italy, but I guess the plane's passengers felt safer...

The author of this article, Jay Evensen with the Deseret News, writes: "The other is that a lot of Americans are armed to the teeth."

My problem isn't with Americans that understand the 2nd Amendment was crafted to allow individual US citizens to protect themselves and their families. My problem is with the Obama Administration that launched a sting operation called "Operation Fast and Furious" that put firearms into the hands of Mexican drug lords and cost at least one US federal agent his life. In the aftermath of that debacle those responsible are running for cover like cockroaches when the lights get turned on.

On the other hand, they caught my overly large toothpaste and Old Spice cologne bottle and threw them away in the bin. As was obvious with the ban on fingernail clippers several years ago, the idiots at TSA always manage to go overboard on everything.

Churchill once said, "America can always be counted on to do the right thing, after it's exhausted all other possibilities."

Then again, a terrorist cannot count on someone missing his weapon, and thus, would be deterred, so maybe the screeningis worth it.

The obscene costs of silly, ineffective airport screening far outweigh any possible benefit. The shoe business is probably the most tragically funny, one idiot puts bombs in his shoes years ago, and now we all have to share foot fungus. The 9-11 attacks only worked because no one was suspecting the psychos would fly planes into buildings, I'm sure they thought they were just going to be negociated for on the next airport tarmac. By the 4th plane we figured it out and it would never ever work again! And if just 1 passenger had a concealed carry permit and his or her gun, they would have survived!

The terrorists are winning because they're getting us to flush all our money down the toilet on security, and waste untold cumulative eons of our lives in line.

Well do I remember when I had a tube of toothpaste that originally held about 6 ounces pulled from my luggage in Denver when any 3rd grader could see that there was only an ounce or less actually in it because the remainder was squeezed flat. When I asked TSA how much toothpaste they thought was in the tube they responded that it was the size of the container, not the amount it actually held at the time. I've also had a water bottle given me by the airlines and inadventently left it in a bag for a segment the next day, only to have it discovered and subsequently tossed at a small airport, and it was not even noticed at SLC.

But we're all safer because I remove my shoes every time, right?

As always if every non-criminal we're required to carry a gun, eveyone would have one and no one would need them at the rate we need them.

One of the primary reasons for creating thre TSA was a knee jerk reaction to the fact that the airplanes were hijacked on 911. The bureocracy created and backfilled to support that reaction has been a boon for creating jobs in a whole new government agency. Hooray for those who are employed, but like any other government agency, its effectiveness and management, not to mention its excesses, leaves much to be desired.

For all the posturing and harumphing by those who have convinced themselves and others that they are more safe in the air, or that the lack of hijackings is evidence of success, the TSA does little to improve threat of terror. It has the potential, but it is hamstrung by the very government which created it, in actually doing an effective job. It focusses on appearance rather than substance. Two M-16,s on the shoulders of National Guardsmen at the gate and armed (visably)sky marshalls on board would be more effective and less expensive than the multi-millions spent in TSA equipment and wages, but there would be fewer jobs and less chest thumping opportunities.

It is sad how the systematic deprivation of American's civil liberties has turned so many in this country into cringing apologists for our nascent police state. The TSA has now expanded its activities to bus and train stations and even to freeway rest stops, and all in the name of making us safer. People: keeping the populace safe has ALWAYS been the rationale of those who would deprive us of our liberties. As many of these comments bear out, this country is increasingly dividing into those who understand the rights associated with the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments, and those who put their trust in the alleged benevolence of the state. As one who holds a CCP and also a PhD, I'm sick and tired of gun ownership being portrayed as an indicator of ignorance or criminality. In any event, liberty, with all of its attendant risks and uncertainties -- including the right to keep and bear arms -- is preferable to what one of our noble founders called "the tranquility of servitude," which dictators and nanny states of every age have been happy to provide.

At Northern:

Interesting thought, but no one needing to get it will.

@Northern

I REFUSE to carry a gun with me at all times. In your world, would I go to jail for that?

The rise of the fourth reich begins with the Patriot Act and TSA patdowns.

How can any true lover of the constitution or freedom endorse this? This is way over the line and by enabling this, don't think they will stop at airports, if they have their way, they would be in your bedrooms.

Bush enabled it. Obama promised to get rid of it in his campaign but has since continued it.

Another perspective

"The minute grandma isn't subject to inspection is the minute the terrorists decide to make use of grandma to do their terrorist deed."

It is much more dangerous listening and giving into this type of propoganda. This is what they want for the ideal globalist society. "Trust nobody and spy on everybody."

This propoganda just as childish as promoting the monster under the bed. Both are just as silly. We will be an orwellian dictatorship before you know if we pay attention to things like this.

Re: CHS 85 | 11:15 a.m. Oct. 27, 2011
"In your world, would I go to jail for that?"

No, victims don't go to jail. They go to the morgue. Peace officers can verify that when seconds count they are only minutes away.