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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 26 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Good for Mitt!!!

Cedar Hills, UT

I didn't see anywhere in the article where Romney said he was "against" the Ohio measures. Just more of the media, and apparently most people on these comment boards, engaging in the type of "gotcha" journalism and dishonest characterizations that seem to dominate the dialogue today. Take a nuanced or vague statement, blow it up to the very most extreme possible caricatured interpretation, and create a false controversy to stir up the fan base.

Although I fear an avalanche of inane, irrelevant, and out-of-context headlines in response, a perfect example is Pagan's remark "Zero to 110% in 24Hours." Where was the "Zero?" It did not exist in the first place. Just another wildly dishonest exaggeration to characterize someone in the most negative manner possible.

Disappointing that Huntsman feels the need to engage in the same type of dishonest exaggeration, pandering, and "gotcha" politics.

safety dictates, ID

"A Fox News poll released Wednesday shows support for Cain has quadrupled among GOP primary voters since late August."

This plus the latest data on income distribution ought to alarm Utah voters. The Republican Party is not your friend. Mitt Romney can do the country little good by going the Goldwater route.

Casa Grande, AZ

If Romney is the best republican candidate Obama will have no trouble winning 2012.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

This will definately cost him. Too bad... he could have made some good ground by supporting the working class...now he's...going to be tossed into the fishy smell with all the other elitists who will sell this country even further down the river.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

Seer...first of all bank tellers are not skilled craftsman, teachers. government servants or first responders...That's a major difference that obviously you don't understand. The banking industry has never been a unionized trade. I really don't think you need to worry about being forced into collective bargaining

...and Vocal Local...just so you know... if you feel that you are being paid sufficiently for whatever it is that you do...it's more than likely that prevailing wage laws have a lot to do with it...and Unions predominatly are responsible for those prevailing wage laws in most areas of the country... and without those prevailing wage laws your standard of living most likely would be far less than it is...so you might want to reconsider what you wish for.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

Politics is a flip flop profession...It wasn't that long ago thar Democrats were the conservatives and republicans were the liberals especially in the South

West Hills, CA

Re: Where's Stockton???-5:42 pm

Since when are government servants "skilled" workers?

Mcallen, TX

People aren't very wise when picking leadership, and history proves this. Obama has given billions to other countries and helped build their economy with our American money. Created jobs abroad, while causing hatred here. As a country, we're broke, but the spending continues, and nobody cares.

Nobody seems upset at this? Unbelievable! All we can do is criticize Romney and blame Bush for evberything?

Mcallen, TX

"Obama reverses himself, supports other countries:

Oct. 20, 2011

With the approval of the Obama administration, an electric car company that received a $529 million federal government loan guarantee is assembling its first line of cars in Finland, saying it could not find a facility in the United States capable of doing the work.


(2.) Obama administration to support offshore drilling in Brazil

Posted by Steve M on August 18, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Share via e-mail

The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazils state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazils Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazils planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials.

Romney flip-floping? Isn't this a flip (from our country to another)?

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

kk818...You need to reread...where did I put skilled "workers" and government servents as being one and the same. I believe I inserted the word teachers in between and used the word craftsman instead of workers. You obviously aren't able to properly distinguish the differences. At leasst pay me the respect to qoute me correctly before you show your short sightedness. But... just for argument then where would you put first responders skilled in what they do... if not under government...or any workers in government that put thier lives in danger for the public good...I suppose you think of only congressmen and senators and other elected officials...what about the guys who ensure that you have electricity or running water or clean your streets or pick up your garbage...You don't think that they need representation too or do you think that people like you should just treat them as pions as well.

Beverly Hills, CA

Mitt, Mitt, Mitt, your flip flopping is now legendary.

Durham, NC

kanaka818 - you ask "Since when are government servants "skilled" workers?"

Oh I don't know... since they keep several million travelers safe as they cross the country each day at 30,000 feet in several thousand flights...

Oh perhaps those people who come to accident scenes and extract the injured and get them safely to medical treatment...

Or perhaps those guys thta dropped into a foreign country and took out a terrorist... I would call them skilled.

Or the guys when I was on a cruise and a passender had a heart attack - who flew in and hovered over an ocean liner at sea that was still moving and extracted the poor man... very skilled.

I would even wager just a few of the police in your area, fire fighters, rangers, teachers, professors, researchers, judges, prosecutors who send bad people away... all skilled. Even the people who do work you look down on like engineer highways and build roads - pretty skilled.

The arrogance of conservatives, looking down on those who work to keep our lives safe as "unskilled" is probably one of the biggest reasons I can't associate with that crowd.

Arrogance isn't attractive on anyone.

West Hills, CA

Re: Where's Stockton??? 7:16 pm

Wow, must have struck a nerve. Four misspelled words in your response. Although your sentence structure is somewhat questionable, by your explanation, you apparently don't equate government servants with skilled craftsmen, teachers and first responders.

Think DMV, Tax Collectors Office, Business Permit Office, etc., etc. Aren't these goverment servants very similar to the job descriptions of bank tellers and bank customer service reps? Why do goverment servants need unions and not bank employees?

West Hills, CA

Re: Utah Blue Devil 8:57 pm

I'm so confused. Where's Stockton ??? doesn't believe government servants are the same as skilled craftsmen, teachers and first responders. You say they are. In any event, just why does anyone working for a government, national or local, need to join a union?

CHS 85
Sandy, UT


For the same reasons that other workers belong to unions. The union I belong to works to keep management from taking advantage of labor. An example was when I was forced to work overtime for twenty hours in a pay period. The amount of money I was paid was less than my normal hourly wage due to a management loophole. The union filed a grievance for several of us and we were awarded back pay for that time. That was one example.

The notion that every government worker is a fat, lazy, slob with no skills is very outdated. Not every government worker sits behind a desk in a cushy office drinking coffee. Many of us work shift work in dangerous, highly skilled professions requiring advanced degrees and years of experience. Unions insure that safety regulations are met, overtime is paid properly, shifts are fairly divided among the workers. Those are the same issues that private company unions deal with.

Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: CHS 85 | 11:05 p.m. Oct. 26, 2011

The liberal Democratic Mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emanuel, is following the example the Governor and legislature in Wisconsin and is turning up the heat on Chicago's unions. He has ridiculed the practice of paying heavy equipment operators overtime just to get ready for work. He's invited private trash haulers to square off against city crews to see who does a better, cheaper job. And he's called out transit workers for getting paid time off not only for their birthdays but for the day they landed their jobs.

Well Read

Another example of Romney's finger in the air testing which way the wind blows. He will say anything or do anything to win the Republican Presidential nomination. I certainly hope the Republican Party cam yet come up with a Republican Candidate with more integrity.

Murray, Utah

The unions have pushed the jobs overseas. The union have made it so our car companies are not competative. The unions make it so that we cannot get rid of horrible teachers teaching our kids. They are able to bargain for more money and better benefits at the expense of the tax payer and the consumer. Consumers and tax payers are tired of paying for full retirements after 30 years of work until they die. Private sector employees are given retirement plans and full benefits after they retire.

When the public has a say at the bargaining table, then I may support unions. Until then, they are a bane on our society.

Durham, NC

Mick - huge issue with your assumptions here. If it were true that Unions were to blame for the domestic car makers problems, how is it that European car makers, such as VW, now the number 2 or 1 car maker in the world, lives with European social progressive governments, is unionized, and build next to none of their cars in Asia. Same with BMW, Mercedes. The French were even able to buy controling interest in Nissan.

Horrible teachers are fired, check your facts. Our competitors overseas do offer full retirement benefits (Asia and EMEA) to their employees where our companies don't, and yet they compete.

The public does have a say. YOU elect the representatives of the public who negotiate with the unions. These people who sign these contract are hired by you and your neighbors. If they aren't doing their jobs to keep things in balance, hold them responsible.

It is about balance. Either side having too much power ends badly. We saw it with companies doing very bad things to save money, and we have seen it with unions too. Removing one side from the table will not fix things.

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