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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 25 2011 9:01 p.m. MDT

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yarrlydarb
Ogden, UT

Coach Kyle says: "Jon Hays is a tireless worker. He studies lots of film, he prepares, he's competitive, he's tough. He just needs to continue to get more experience at this level."

What else can he say but paint the rosiest picture of his quarterback as possible for this year?

It's not like he has any other option.

I feel for him and his team, but the Utes' entrance and first year in the PAC-12 is anything but noteworthy.

Maybe the extra money over what they had in the Mountain West will allow him to "purchase" a top quarterback the next recruiting season.

By the way, how long ago was it that Chow had a good season? It wasn't with the Bruins, and it wasn't with the Titans, and it wasn't for his last years even at USC, and lastly, it wasn't for the last few years with the Cougars.

What makes us think he'll have any good years in the PAC-12 with the Utes?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah 34
Oregon State 10

billybubba
South Jordan, UT

Thanks c.b. you did it again now the U has no chance of winning sad faces all around

Qwest Perfected
Salt Lake City, UT

I can't wait to see DeVonte get back on the field. The Utes need not only his playmaking ability but also his leadership on the field.

As for Kyle, I don't think he is trying to paint a rosey picture for anybody. He has been very straight forward with his assesment of the offense. Also Chow coached a pretty good game against byu this year so I don't pin blame on him either.

This team simply needs more depth at key positions not just at quarterback but we need more guys that can play on the O line. We need to have some guys on the sidelines that we can rotate in and out of those positions with no significant drop off of talent.

I do find it funny with all of the coug fans commenting on how bad the coaches are handleing our current situation. How do you like the way your coach has handled the cougar QB situation? He likes how Riley plays so much he refuses to name him the starter. Yeah that's a great idea.

neimfrence
layton, ut

The only good thing about the Utes being down this year is that it has cut down on the use of the omnipresent "block U" hand gesture at Rice Eccles.

Never mind that Ute fans adoption of this gesture is an unmitigated and blatant rip-off of the University of Miami, it is absolutely sophomoric in its own right. Perhaps the only fan-base that looks more idiotic in its use of a hand gesture is the University of Oregon with their two-handed O.

Think of the riducule BYU fans would endure if, at every TV crowd shot, Cougar fans were shown making a claw gesture...Oh yeah, TCU fans do that, and it looks pretty stupid. Its bad enough that we have to tolerate the insufferable Cougar growl over the sound system at LES on every first down.

Here's hoping that the Ute program goes into a deep recession until such time as the fanbase drops the ignorant gesture of their own accord.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

yarrlydarb:

"By the way, how long ago was it that Chow had a good season?...it wasn't for his last years even at USC, and lastly, it wasn't for the last few years with the Cougars."

Depends on your definition of a good season. In 2004 he went 13-0 at USC. That was 7 yrs ago. NFL coaching is different from the NCAA, so there can be no conclusion to draw from there. Saban lost big in the NFL, but won big at Alabama.

Chow had only been running the Utah offense for about 4 months now, and Hays for 3. What did you expect from a D-II level QB? A Nat'l Championship?

And Chow had done just fine while at the Y. At 37-15 [0.712], his record mirrored that of Lavell Edwards' [also 0.712]. At USC, his Trojans went 42-9 [0.824], with 6 of his losses amid his first year there. Ergo, he closed out his tenure at USC averaging 1 loss per season. Is that too pedestrian for you? At NC State, he went 8-4 [0.667], and collectively, his FBS record is 102-50 [0.671].

54-10!

sports-junkie
West Jordan, UT

More studying film, less practice flashing the "U" sign and Jon Hays will be just fine.

(did I see Jon flash the "U" after a 3 and out? weird.)

Utesby3
Sandy, UT

Qwest Perfected: Good point. As I recall Bronco didn't exactly handle the QB situation well last year either. Heaps would play for one possession, then Nelson the next. That wasn't a real winning strategy.

MiP
Iowa City, IA

Saturday's game is crucial for the Utes to move toward a bowl game. It would get the proverbial "monkey" of their back. Plus a win over the beavers would be a good omen for them as OSU has beaten two teams the Utes have yet to face: Wash St. and Arizona. I take solace in the fact that Tino Sunseri of Pitt threw for over 400 yards tonight (against mighty UConn). I'm not convinced the beavers are any better than Pitt.

Establish the run.
Score in the red zone.
Force the Beavers to turn the ball over.
Hays, hold on tho the ball.

Game.

Go Utes!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Trying to make a comparison between BYU's qb situation and utah's is laughable. Certainly the 2 qb system BYU tried last year had a poor result, thus it ended. But utah's system of recruiting mid level high school qb's and turning most of them into defensive players, then being caught with basically nothing at qb other than a d2 reject and a walk on is the most serious blunder I have ever witnessed.

BYU on the otherhand has multiple capable and highly touted qb's on their roster at all times. One doesn't perfom (Heaps) then bring in the next high school all american and see if he can get it done. It seems to be working quite well right now, as opposed to utah's method of using that d2 reject.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Duckhunter:

"Trying to make a comparison between BYU's qb situation and utah's is laughable...utah's system of recruiting mid level high school qb's and...then being caught with basically nothing.....BYU on the otherhand has multiple capable and highly touted qb's on their roster at all times. One doesn't perfom (Heaps) then bring in the next high school all american and see if he can get it done. It seems to be working quite well right now..."

According to Rivals the U and the Y recruited and signed 9 highly touted QBs since 2006. Try your best to follow along with the below matrix:

Yr - Recruit - Star rating - Position Rank

For the cougars...
2006: James Lark, 3-stars, #25 [Nelson was a 2-star USU recruit]
2007: Jason Munns, 3-stars, #15
2010: Jake Heaps, 4-stars, #1 [*snicker*]

Now for the Utes...
2007: Chad Manis, 3-star, #6 JUCO; Griffin Robles, 3-star, #12
2009: Terrance Cain, 4-star, #1 JUCO; Jordan Wynn, 3-star, #22
2010: Brian Blechen, 3-star, #14; Tyler Shreve, 3-star, #20

Conclusion: Utah has MORE highly touted QBs...

...and QBs more highly touted than the Y.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Duckhunter:

So perhaps the reason neither Larks nor Munns had been given the keys to the offense is because theyre no better than the higher rated QBs on the UTAH bench.

Once again, you have nothing more to offer other than your "tradition[al]" frantic and emotional conjecture.

Had the Big XII called yet?

LOL!

Mid-majors forever.

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