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Published: Monday, Oct. 24 2011 10:36 a.m. MDT

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Blue Chelan56
Chelan, WA

Religious Bigotry is still alive and well. The Main-tream Media and the Oboma Adm. are pushing Romney as the Repub. front runner, because they feel the "Mormon" label will work in their favor, as many Evangelical, Baptists, and other Protestant Religions just will not vote for a "Mormon". As Americans, we have come a long way in overcoming much of our Racial and Religeous Pregidice,but in my opinion, many still are brainwashed against Mormons in general by their Leaders.For most Religeous Leaders, it is a dollar and cent issue. It is their livelyhood that they are protecting.

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Re:JNA
Obama is far from the worst president we have ever had. It would have been nice to see what he could have accomplished for the country without the total obstructionism he faced from day one. Fact is that the Pubs never could accept the fact that Obama out smarted, out organized, out campaigned and out classed them to became the first Black American POTUS and a Dem to make it sting even more. Their sole purpose and goal has been to make Obama pay the price for showing them up, even if it has caused the citizens to suffer the consequences. It has been stick it to him no matter the cost to the country. But what goes around always comes around, and the majority of voters are not stupid. If the right wingers thought the last three years were hard to swallow, it will be fun watching them gag on the next 5 years because of their inability to find a candidate willing to run, that could beat Obama. Enjoy Pubs enjoy!

FDRfan
safety dictates, ID

I don't understand what the answer to that question proves? Would black Mormons support Romney or Reid? Do they agree with the President's helping home owners who are current on their home loans but are locked out of the refinancing market because of fallen house values or would they side with Mitt Romney if he opposes this plan? I'm white but don't try to make my support of policies a matter of my faithfulness to the Church? I agree with Mitt Romney on some issues and disagree on others. A better question is would a black Mormon support Cain or Obama?

Furry1993
Clearfield, UT

To JNA | 11:58 a.m. Oct. 24, 2011

'He *(Obama) is the worst President in the history of the United States.'
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Sorry -- you got the wrong president. The worst President in the history of the United States was President Obama's predecessor -- George Walker Bush. I'm not pleased with a lot of what President Obama has done, but he's head-and-shoulders better on his worst day than GWB was on his best.

RAB
Bountiful, UT

It seems like most of the commentators on this page did not read the article. The whole point was to clarify that, contrary to what many people might be assuming, black Latter Day Saints DO NOT choose candidates based on their religion or their race. I am glad DS did us the favor of putting that question to rest.

I cannot prove it, but Democrats do not necessarily vote against Mormons out of religious bias. Mormons have numerous well-known beliefs that liberals oppose (opposition to same-sex-marriage, being one).

@ Pagen
You are opposed to Mormons because of their views on gays. Dont pretend anything else matters to you. If Romney favored same-sex marriage, you would not care less what he said about Detroit years ago. You would be pasting in out-of-context comments that support him instead.

Everyone knows that Obama does not HAVE to attack Romneys religion. There are plenty of liberal pundits and media personalities willing to do the smear job for him. I saw it when Romney was running against Kennedy.

Shimlau
SAINT GEORGE, UT

Ralph West Jordan: for the first 2 years of his administration, his party had control of both houses of congress! how can you claim that it is because of obstructionist Repub's that he got nothing done? Maybe the American people just don't like what he has accomplished. When he won the election, I looked at him and said to myself, "at least I know what we got!" and my opinion hasn't changed.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'how can you claim that it is because of obstructionist Repub's that he got nothing done?' - Shimlau | 1:53 p.m. Oct. 24, 2011

*'Republicans bail on budget talks, blame Democrats' - By David Espo - AP - Published by DSNews - 06/23/11

*Republicans block small business lending bill' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews - 07/29/10

*House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits By Andrew Taylor AP 11/18/10

*'Senate Republicans Block Defense Bill, 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' Repeal' - By MATTHEW JAFFE and DEVIN DWYER - ABC News - 09/21/10

When Democrats reclaimed the Senate majority in the 2006 midterm elections, cloture filings shot up from 68 in 2005-2006 (From Dems) to a record 139 in 2007-2008.' (From Republicans)

*'The Rise Of Cloture: How GOP Filibuster Threats Have Changed The Senate' - Ben Frumin and Jason Reif - Talking Points Memo - 01/27/10

Would you like more examples...

than the 139 fillibusters?

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Re: Shimlau

Surely you jest!!

Woodyff
Mapleton, UT

Oduah concludes: "Being black by birth and Mormon by choice for many in America means choosing not to judge people by race or religion or even political party, but by content of character." If you are going to make a decision by the content of character then how could anyone favor Obama over anybody, except maybe Biden. Obama lacks character, honesty, etc. How many scandals do we now have in the Obama administration? Too many to count!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
...
And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
28th August, 1963

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Why is Religion and Race still being discussed as "THE" issue in 2011-2012 ?

My guess is only those who keep making it "THE" issue, are the ones actually still struggling and having problems with it.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

@Patriot: And now use the word "Mormon" wherever you use race and color.

Colorado Reader
Littleton, CO

"Being black by birth and Mormon by choice for many in America means choosing not to judge people by race or religion or even political party, but by content of character."

Best quote I have heard in a while. We should all learn something from it!

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Members of the church, be they black, white or whatever would do best to follow the counsel of the First Presidency:

"we urge you to register to vote, to study the issues and candidates carefully and prayerfully, and then to vote for and actively support those you believe will most nearly carry out your ideas of good government."

If you think that is Romney, great. If you think that is Obama, also great. If you think it is some other candidate, that is fine as well.

This is politics, not our eternal salvation. People have different opinons and that is okay.

Conservative Veteran
Layton, UT

I am a mormon who will tell you that I will neither vote for a person because they are a mormon or because of the color of their skin - both these points are completely irrelevant to me.

The only consideration I will give in order of priority for me is:

1. Who will get our deficit spending under control?
2. Do they have a plan to reduce our debt?
3. What will they do to reduce our cumbersome regulation?
4. What will they do to stabilize our currency?
5. What will they do to continue showing support to our troops with oversees battles winding down?
6. What policies will they implement that will strengthen the family?

These are the primary issues I will use to select who I will vote for. I am still undecided. I will continue to gather as much information on the candidates as possible.

MarkJ
South Jordan, Utah

The headline of this article seems to imply that someone would choose to vote for a candidate either because they are the same race or the same religion as that candidate. Really? I'm a white Mormon Republican, but I still think I'd vote for Obama over Romney because at least Obama seems to have political views consistent with his party. I'm never going to vote for a Republican like Romney who is not actually a conservative, and it surprises me that so many in Utah seem willing to support him just because of his religion in spite of the fact that his politics are not the least bit conservative.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Actually there's another point about Cain. Black Mormons are probably going to vote for Obama or Romney, if that's the general election matchup, based on political ideology. A more interesting question is who in the Republican primary do black Mormons tend to favor.

@Riverton Cougar

"Another fact is that 95% of blacks voted for Obama in 2008 (not made up; a google search will easily and overwhelmingly confirm this). "

Kerry also got a huge proportion of the black vote but since you seem insistent on claiming black people voted for Obama just because he's black, I'm curious what the primary percentage of Mormons was in voting for Romney. Didn't he get something like 85-90% of this state and that includes all the non-mormon republicans.

@JNA
"He is the worst President in the history of the United States."

On what basis? His capacity for turning 700k/month job losses inherited to now 20 straight months of growth? The DOW doing better than all other global stock markets the past couple years? Trying to pass jobs bills but getting stopped by obstructionists? Wanting to reduce the deficit by 4 trillion when Republicans scrap it and aim for 2 trillion?

KM
Cedar Hills, UT

"let detroit go bankrupt." Sounds reasonable to me. If a business isn't succeeding then there must be something wrong with the way they are operating the business. Or would you have the private sector bail them out?

cjb
Bountiful, UT

I would hope the one they can trust the most is the one who is most likely to see to it that they have decent social security by the time they retire and not have to rely on only the stock market.

I would hope they would vote for a president they can trust won't get us into stupid wars.

A president who whose goal is not to lower taxes on the rich while gutting social programs. Blacks especially but whites too used to go hungry often times before the federal government made it their business to fight hunger through food stamps.

I would hope they will vote for a president who cuts wasteful government spending, and pays down our debt.

mare54
KIHEI, HI

Ahemmmmmmmm...... Obama the worst President of the United States??? Someone forgot the last President of the United States, who Obama has been trying to clean up after ever since!!! What short sighted people. Disgusting.

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

First, as a non-LDS, I find those who do not take time to understand the LDS faith before making comments are not that well informed regarding the key issues facing our country and the candidates at this time. In other words, they have no rational basis for being able to vote. This "Mormon Faith" issue is so full of holes. I realize that those non-LDS in Utah seem to have a distored view of this faith. But for the rest of us who live outside of Utah and associate with members of this faith on both a personal and business level, find them not be be the wild and crazy people with weird beliefs that so many have written about. Before you comment take time to understand the religion and not base your comments on something you read about or heard. Go to the source. I can't believe that at this time in our society that we have to go through this.

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