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Published: Sunday, Oct. 23 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT

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EJM
Herriman, UT

I always thought public office was a public service. That one served because they wanted to contribute to the betterment of all. I didn't realize that they deserved the right to incumbency, after expending resources (in the words of Mr. Pignanelli). Maybe this the root of our problems. When are we going to ever revisit term limits, not only locally but nationally? Get away from this sense of entitlement and get back to a sense of service.

Instereo
Eureka, UT

There is plenty of blame to go around about the redistricting process. Of course you can say it was open because of all the statewide meetings. You can also say it was rigged because of all the closed caucus meetings. You can say it's fair because districts are "equal" in their numbers and political composition. You can also say they were rigged because they divided communities along arbitrary lines. I think the bottom line to whatever you say about the process, it would be much harder to criticize a non-partisan commission.

goatesnotes
Kamas, UT

"Redistricting" - "Fair" - "Open" - all oxymorons that do not belong in the same sentence anywhere in America. If your party wins the election in the year the census is taken you are free to draw the boundaries anyway you choose. It's the consequence of election victory. The pretense that it's going to be any of those oxymorons is simply stating facts not in evidence anytime, anywhere, anyway.

one old man
Ogden, UT

The Tribune reported that Becky Lockhart stated that the only request for special consideration in drawing new boundaries came from Jason Chafetz who asked that his district lines be drawn so that he will actually live in the district he is supposed to represent. It seems it's not necessary for a representative to actually live in their district.

But this morning, when I tried to send an email to ask Chafetz a question, it was rejected. Why? Because I don't live in the Third District.

Do I smell a bit of Republican hypocrisy here? Sort of smells like the elephant enclosure at Hogle Zoo.

I also don't believe Lockhart, either.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: one old man | 3:36 p.m. Oct. 23, 2011

Rob Bishop is the congressional representative for Utah's 1st District which includes Ogden. Perhaps Mr. Chafetz' staff sensed that your e-mail was frivolous and rightfully determined not to waste his time responding to it.

John Jackson
Sandy, UT

"Office-holders expend resources and effort to be elected, and they deserve (and the constituents they serve are entitled) to have incumbency a consideration when redrawing boundaries."

Where are the Occupiers when you need them? Surely, they would protest such an arrangement. And, the rest of us should, also. It simply isn't a good thing to encourage public offices to be bought and sold. Our redistricting should not endorse such a practice, but instead seek to draw the lines just to suit the public.

To the victors go the spoils? And, we say they are entitled to lay aside the betterment of the public so they can draw the lines for the betterment of themselves, the politicians? No, I don't think we need to grant them such a thing. They are elected to serve us, not themselves.

homebrew
South Jordan, UT

Fair and open?? Kinda like Fair and balanced reporting from fox news. Its just a sound bite. Closed door practices from the GOP legislaters gerrymandering districts, I hope the voters make them pay but we all know this is a pretty red state. Between the caucus system and this process the crooks in the GOP have a stranglehold on pollitics in the state. Get off your duffs Utahn's and show these people we arent going to take it any more.

one old man
Ogden, UT

No Rifleman, no one in Chafetz's office ever saw my email. It was automatically rejected by his computer system because my zip code indicated I was out of his district.

You need to answer the simple question: How can a "Representative" live outside the district he "represents" if other citizens have no right to question him no matter what district we live in? Don't all citizens of Utah have the right to ask questions and receive answers?

I could understand this response if I had been writing from southwestern Alabama, but last time I checked, I'm still in Utah.

Brer Rabbit
Spanish Fork, UT

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, just as "fairness" is in the political eye of the beholder when it comes to re-districting. Relax this will be a non-issue before the end of the year.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@one old man,

Jason Chaffetz was elected to represent to people of the 3rd District by those, and ONLY those voters in the 3rd District, even though he does not live in that District. If you had the opportunity vote for Jason Chaffetz in 2010 (aka, he was running in the 1st District), then it would be your privilege to belly-ache to him, but you did not.

Being from Ogden, Rob Bishop is your elected representative - that is where you take your gripes.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: one old man | 11:52 a.m. Oct. 24, 2011
"Don't all citizens of Utah have the right to ask questions and receive answers?"

As a school teacher you should know that you have a 1st Amendment right to SAY anything you want within reason. (You can't yell "fire" in a theater and you can't joke about bombs at the airport.) But no, you don't have any "right" to receive responses from Jason Chaffetz or anybody else. You're going to have to get used to being ignored by Mr. Chaffetz for a long long time.

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