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Published: Thursday, Oct. 20 2011 3:00 p.m. MDT

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San Bernardino, CA

BYU's mission is to change the world. They will never back down from certain principles. I wouldn't be surprised if someday the university drops athletics to focus on more important things, but BYU's goal is to be a light to the world.

Omaha, NE

An anchor in turbulent waves...

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

What does the word "integrity" mean?

Far too often, society is willing to set aside principles for a few minutes of pleasure. BYU will never do that. Principles are eternal. Pleasure is momentary.

Park City, UT

With my disdain of BYU football and especially it's fans aside, I honestly hope that the Y stand firm on their current policies. Maybe they are "high maintenance", but you have to respect someone for standing up for what they believe in. Last year when Davies was suspended, I realized some new found respect for the Y. I personally didn't agree with the suspension, but I respected that they stood their ground. Conferences will come and go, but the world will always respect you if you have a policy and stick to it. Politicians could learn from this as well.

Eagle Mountain, UT

I would be shocked and more than a little disappointed if BYU changed it's stance on Sunday play. When you compromise one Christian value, which one is next? There is not another major Christian based University in the U.S. that adheres to as high a Christian valued philosophy as BYU. An example of this is all the other Christian affiliated schools who do not keep the Sabbath day holy. It is one of the 10 commandments which all christian churches say they adhere to yet these schools do not "practice what they preach". I do not remember seeing an ammendment to the 10 commandments published in any Christian scripture. There are individuals of all christian sects that choose not to obey this commandment but the institutions that encourage and participate (choose to ignore christian principles and commandments) appear empty to me.

Ms Molli
Bountiful, Utah

I think the school will eventually change its stance. Oh there will be a "rational" reason for the change, such as let the good wholesome examples of these players be shown to a wider audience. You know ... similar reasons people used for one of its recently graduated basketball players for not serving a mission. Or another reason: if it is OK for these players to play pro-ball on Sunday, then what is wrong with them playing college ball on Sunday. It will change; they just need to come up with a reason that will sell.

Merrimack, NH

@TJ: I hear you, but I wouldn't want to pass judgment on other institutions that make different decisions. BYU has its core values, and I'm proud to be associated with that institution. I hope that reasonable accommodations will continue to be made for BYU sports with respect to the sunday play issue. Football probably won't be a problem for the foreseeable future because, in general, college football is played on Saturdays and Sundays are reserved for the NFL. It may be a problem for the other sports, though. Hopefully BYU can add enough value to a conference to make it worth that conference's hassle in dealing with scheduling issues surrounding sunday play. Note that BYU does not require that other schools not play on sunday. It doesn't have to be a conference-wide rule, although of course BYU opponents are affected, and tournaments are also affected, potentially.

Wally West

@ Mike Richards | 3:50 p.m. Oct. 20, 2011

Pleasure is monetary? So, byu is giving all that espn $ away?

Seriously(?), A website associated w/ Unive of Louisville sports used hubris to describe BYU's expectations for a Notre Dame like TV contract. Sounds rather carnal, secular, worldly, etc...

South Jordan, UT

First and foremost, I am a BYU fan because of what they believe and what they stand for. The Football team represents my beliefs and what I stand for on the field!

Fred T

Good golly, Ms Molli, the decsion to play football (sports) on Sunday has two completely different criteria.

First, BYU is an institution. They've set a standard. Want to play there? Then you have to abide by that standard. The institution has the standard. Are you Catholic and want to play at BYU? It's ok, but you aren't going to be playing on Sundays.

As far as players playing professional ball on Sunday, that is an individual choice. The same for college players that are LDS and go to non-LDS colleges. They play on Sundays if that's what the team does. Again, this is an individual decision to accept the college's (intitution's) requirements to play.

small town, Nebraska

I dont think that BYU is going to change its policy of not playing on Sunday. I would be dissapointed if they did.

Hank Pym

Good golly Ms Molli...

You will be right about the justification; I mean spin.


They make it sound like eventually all sports will be played on Sunday. I doubt that. The only effect is tournament play and the NCAA has a rule that says if you notify the NCAA before the season starts you will not play on Sunday, then the NCAA will make adjustments. As I recall, four schools sign up for that exception every year in every sport, BYU being one of them. I have always been curious what would happen if the BYU women's basketball team goes all the way? The semi-final or final game has alwaays been on Sunday. Guess the NCAA would have to make a last minute move just like when BYU was put in the wrong bracket once in March Madness.

Centerville, UT

@Ms. Molli

You cited examples of personal decisions by individual players. Playing in the NFL on Sunday has nothing to do with BYU. The player is no longer a BYU student. Also, going on a mission is a personal decision. You can still attend BYU without having gone on a mission.

BYU and the church will not ever allow athletes to play on Sunday for any reason. They have never and will never compromise on that.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

BYU will drop major college sports before they ever compromise on no Sunday play. It would be contrary to every reason that BYU even has a sports program to allow a compromise that would send the wrong signal to the world. A compromise on that principle would say, "Look, even BYU has a price."

I have been saying for some time now that I believe the end is near for BYU's intercollegiate sports. They may, for a time, drop down to the FCS or NAIA level, but eventually the programs will be dropped entirely. Look no further than Rexburg, ID for your best example.

Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

Players lift weights and watch film on Sundays.

Coaches watch film and have their coaches shows on Sunday.

Fans watch the coaches show and NFL on Sunday.

Basketball team has the selection Sunday party on, you guessed it Sunday.

Sure BYU doesn't have games on Sunday, but do they really observe it as a day of rest?

Mapleton, UT

What you are saying is that many religions don't take 'standards' seriously. For years I did not belong to any church because of the hypocrisy of their beliefs. I joined the LDS Church over 30 years ago because of unwavering standards. BYU you stay independent, they don't need to be in a conference. to Ms Molli - serving a mission is a personal decision, not dictated by BYU or the Church. Every worthy young man should serve, not everyone will.

Provo, UT

@ sisucas

"BYU's goal is to be a light to the world."

You really had a different experience at BYU than I did. Or, you didn't go to BYU...


"The Football team represents my beliefs and what I stand for on the field!"

Idon't want 'my beliefs' to be associated with or represented by a football team. Football is football. Religion is religion. Football can bring good PR to BYU and maybe even the church...but it DOES NOT represent 'my beliefs.' (And PR can aid missionary work BUT IT IS NOT MISSIONARY WORK contrary to what many folks have said.)

@Fred T

"As far as players playing professional ball on Sunday, that is an individual choice."

Word. BUT, the church (or its members) vindicating such behavior and/or justifying it pulls the issue away from 'individual choice.' I don't think I'd have to moral fiber to not play on Sunday, (aka I'd do it!) but I sure have enough to not preach to others that they shouldn't. Imagine trying to explain to Jesus while he was on the cross that you cared more about a pigskin on Sundays than His commandments!

Iowa City, IA

BYU will never play on Sunday.

Stand firm.

Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

BYU will eventually play on Sunday.

Church owned KSL and Deseret News do not have to deliver / broadcast on Sunday. If they chose not to they would lose out on a lot of money. Same with BYU sports.

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