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  • SoUtHapa Saint George, Utah
    Oct. 22, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    bball,

    BYU is only a joke to know nothing non fans who apparently have Heap's picture tacked to the ceiling above their beds. Wow, you probably have a little voodoo doll of Riley as well, sot you can stick little hate pins in him while frothing at mouth.
    Not want anything to improve? As always, you don't make sense and in fact are a veritable cornucopia of contradiction. Both these young men played against the same team, one for almost 3 full quarters, the other, just over one. One had all the 1st O snaps up to that point, all year, and was losing the game. The other, well, it's not basketball, so maybe it's a little tough for you to grasp, but the other came in and played football while inspiring and lifting the game of 21 other football players.
    Regarding D1 level athletes, you obviously have not played any sport beyond high school, if even then, or you would have a little more respect for the level of athlete it takes to be honored a spot on ANY D1 roster. Take a look at the pros to see the diversity of schools they come from.
    Keep hating.

  • BYUCamFam LAYTON, UT
    Oct. 22, 2011 12:27 a.m.

    Jake Heaps is on the bench because of his inability to throw the ball accurately this season. It was embarrassing that at one point in the USU game, ESPN began counting his "Overthrows" and posting them as a stat on the television.

    Not being able to throw the ball accurately is not a "maturity" issue where "once he grows up" he'll start hitting receivers. It's baffling, I don't know that anyone can explain it. I don't even know if Jake Heaps can explain it. The fact of the matter is, he can't consistently hit receivers this year so he's not playing.

  • liberaustrian El Paso, TX
    Oct. 21, 2011 11:52 p.m.

    So, I just did the math and found that Riley nelson averages 7.6 yards per play that he attempts (throwing or running). Heaps, on the other hand, averages about 4.5 yards per play. Nelson averages 12.1 plays per quarter, while Heaps averages 10.3 plays per quarter. Combining both of these averages lets us know what each quarter back would have done had they played the whole season up to this point. Heaps would have 1301 total yards....Nelson, 2511 yards!!! This doesn't even take into consideration the number of TD's each player accounted for (Heaps 4, Nelson 8). Now one can argue that Heaps had tougher opponents, but I would have to disagree. The Utah game was an anomaly (when it rained it poured. I think with Nelson in the game, the team overall would have played better, knowing they didn't have to force things as much (because Riley scores touchdowns). So here is the math, NelsonX2 ≥ Heaps.

  • Parkite1 Park City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 7:20 p.m.

    Heaps would do great back in the 1980's under Edwards but that was then. Heaps was subjectively #1 in High School but is now average and exposed in college. Nelson was the spark and Nelson helped create the running game. Shame that Nelson wasn't brought in after half-time of both the Texas and Utah games. If that had happened might be undefeated and in the top 10? BYU needs to go after quarterbacks that are scramblers like young, nelson, tebow and quite recruiting one-dimensional ones like Heaps. In any case I hope it becomes a blow-out to see if heaps can hit the receivers and score 3 or 4 touchdowns. If not then transfer heaps, good riddance.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 6:18 p.m.

    SoUtHapa

    And that is why BYU nation will continue to love being the joke of a football program. Because we should all just sit back and enjoy BYU beating up on a bunch of bottom D1 teams. Sounds just like a typical fan that does not want anything to improve. Lets see if we can schedule all D2 and D3 teams so you can be happy with a ten win season. LOL

    By the way Riley is a great kid. But he is not a D1 qb, if he was playing against real teams he would be getting killed. Just look at his TO's and what's even scarier is the ones that he threw right to guys that dropped them. And that again is against bad teams.. nothing to sit back and enjoy if you are a true fan of good football.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2011 6:05 p.m.

    sheriffcreg-sorry, he's not wanted at Utah!!! It's one thing for a coach to play at a school and then coach somewhere else, but once you decide as a player, you don't switch sides in a rival situation. We don't take the Y's has beens, we have other recruits who choose Utah first, let's put our time into them. They made the right choice from the beginning.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 5:38 p.m.

    @sheriff

    Please I hope Heaps listens to you. May I quote Ferris " Are you still here / Go its over go home " That would be a very happy day.

  • sheriffcreg SANDY, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    We'd be happy to take you at Utah Heaps. You have better receivers, a better group of RBs, and better coaches to work with.

    Heaps has a great arm, he just needs to sit it out and mature a little bit. Maybe use his red shirt year to transfer schools. :)

    He is one of the few players who I think a mission would have served him well - Get his ego down to a healthy level before taking the reigns at a Div. I school with a lot of hype.

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Oct. 21, 2011 3:32 p.m.

    Best thing that could happen at this point is for Heaps to redshirt next year and let Riley and Lark run the show. That would give Heap's two more years of eligibility.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 2:32 p.m.

    You know I keep coming back to a one point win against a bottom dweller Ole Miss and a one point loss to Texas, one point games and there are those who stiil believe this kid is awesome weird.

    Heaps production was 3 offensive touch downs when he was finally replaced. I do not understand why he is still held up as the messiah of the BYU football program or the future or anything more then another QB on the depth chart or simply a member of the practice squad ?

  • Two Cents Springville, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2011 2:23 p.m.

    I hope Jake uses this time to learn all he can, and eat a small slice of humble pie. With every commentator and coach praising him to the skies last year and this, he has gotten a big head. And his play on the field for the first five games did not measure up to all the hype.

    Nelson is a breath of fresh air. He seems to genuinely love the game and the chance to be on the field and compete. Everyone around him (fans included) feed off of his energy. Heaps does NOT have this energy. Sorry. The best thing Jake can do right now is watch, learn and cheer.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    For heaps to regain the starting spot he needs to come face to face with the truth about himself, what ever that is and only he knows the center of his struggles.

    Some here have speculated that all he needs to do is wait for Riley to get hurt again and that will place him back as the starter. Hello that is where his was and that did not work. It will only work if he preforms up to the at the level of play that Riley has now set. Anything less and he is back ridding the pines.

  • SoUtHapa Saint George, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    bball,
    Can't argue with anything you just said...because you don't make any sense!

    Now you are blaming Riley for what, the schedule, Heaps immaturity, other potentially over hyped candidates getting scared away, maybe? Riley sure is influential. I wonder if he knows how much pull he has? Crazy that he wouldn't have been able to declare himself the starter at the beginning of the season with all this power. Maybe Riley should not play so hard or care about winning or show his fearlessness on the field to justify your disdain for him.

    Nah! He'll probably just continue giving everything he has on the field, whether you, and everyone like you, like it or not.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    I love that there are always a couple posters on these articles saying that what Heaps really needs is to serve a mission.

    They should probably consider how his wife would feel about that.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    SoUtHappa,
    Very happy now thanks, As a BYU fan I can promise you that other top rated QB are watching this (including Tanner) and know that there is better options out there and this includes Tanner who will go else where. And cougar fan will continue living in this dream of how good we are, when all along we are not and wont be in the near future. And when I say good its not beating the power house that wehave been such as:San Jose State, Oregon ST, Weber, Idaho, Idaho St. Man we are so good, and BYU fan should be thrilled with this winning streak.Thanks to Riley.

    BYU fan mentality= as long as we win (this powder puff scheduel) and have a better record than utah, so we can say ya you killed us by 44 however, look at our record. Man we our really good. lol

  • Levin Hightstown, NJ
    Oct. 21, 2011 10:23 a.m.

    Word for those insistent on Heaps serving a mission: that ship has passed. Dude is married.

    I'd like to think Doman is professional enough not to take personally comments like "our offensive coordinator is gaining experience like the rest of us." But, my goodness, young Mr. Heaps, that's a really stupid thing to say.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    Mendenhall is in the same situation that Edwards was with McMahon and Wilson. Edwards red shirted McMahon and Wilson had a stellar senior year. The same thing ought to happen to Heaps. Red shirt him next year, let Nelson finish and bring him back for two stellar years.

  • lasermann Orem, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    I hope that Jake can learn from Riley's example. After Riley's shoulder healed, Bronco said that he would run punt coverage on the special teams. Teammates notice and respect that kind of passion for the game. I think that Jake's sense of entitlement and the inexperience of Coach Doman combined to blast the kid's self confidence.

    The good is that this can be fixed. Do whatever you can to stay ready to contribute to this team. Don't mope along the sidelines, fight to regain the starting role. If you don't get it this year, then do everything that you can to regain it next year.

    And know where your helmet is ... just in case!

  • WisCoug MOUNT HOREB, WI
    Oct. 21, 2011 9:35 a.m.

    I can't help but think that if the running game had been what it is now (I am speaking of the success of Alisa) earlier in the season, BYU would be 6-1, Heaps would still be the starter, and, while it wouldn't be NFL or Heisman talk, he would be receiving praise at this point in the season despite losing to Utah.

    My hope (even as HUGE Riley Nelson fan) is that the team plays Heaps for most or all of the second half against ISU just to make sure he is loose in case they need his arm against TCU, a team that has shown some weakness to the deep pass, but who is athletic and quick enough to give a runner like Nelson fits.

    BYU wins against NMSU, Idaho, and Idaho State with either guy and if Heaps has the greater potential (which I still think the coaches believe), then you need to get him reps against a team like ISU to build confidence for the future and in case we need him against TCU.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 8:29 a.m.

    Saint Heaps has guaranteed a national championship! He'll just be doing it from the sidelines as a cheer leader.

    I doubt the cougars could ever go for a NC, considering they're non-bcs and are independent. They would have to go undefeated for several years to get high enough in the poles to have a remote chance of getting in. We know this year isn't their year.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Oct. 21, 2011 7:12 a.m.

    Re: SportsFann "I predict if Riley finishes the season as the starter Heaps will jump ship, go on a mission." Sorry to tell you, but the only mission he'll serve is 40 years from now with his wife. Dude is already married, my friend.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Oct. 21, 2011 6:03 a.m.

    Heaps is the future. He has talent - we've all seen it before. Doman needs to do all he can to make sure Heaps stays. BUT, the last thing Heaps needs is to be coddled.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Oct. 21, 2011 5:44 a.m.

    Jake

    It's about paying your dues. If your performance had equalled your hype, we would not be having this discussion. But it did not.

    You may have an NFL arm in practice, but being a "Football Player" is another story. All of the Great BYU QB's were "Tough". Name us one that was not.

    You, at this point, are "Soft". We've seen you slide out of plays when there were yards to be gained. We've seen you fail to cover a botched snap, for fear of getting hit. We've seen your happy feet and an inability to check receivers.
    We've seen your inaccuracy...

    If you think there is greener grass and another program will just hand it to you, then move on. They'll make you earn it as well.

    Jake, Great BYU QB's came before you, and great ones will come after you. You were annointed far too soon, and for that I blame the Coaching staff. However, you did nothing to justify their "Premature" confidence in you.

    Nearly every great QB to come through BYU, never even started before their Jr. Year.

    Volunteer for special teams, become a "Football Player" and "Earn" it.

    It's up to you.

  • SoUtHapa Saint George, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2011 12:24 a.m.

    bballjunkie,
    Relative, realist, who cares? You and patriot ought to put yourselves, and the rest of us who are enjoying the revived offense and wins, out of your misery and find something else to watch.
    Why be so miserable? C'mon, be happy!

  • Noblepromise PROVO, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    The fact is that Heaps was the starter at the mid of last season and than lost his quarterback position to the backup quarterback, because of game performance and not due to an injury. Riley will continue to be the starting quarterback unless he gets injured or has poor performance, as its unlikely BYU would want to use two starting quarterbacks. As it would be hard for the offensive squad and easy for opponent defenses to predict what BYU was going to do.

  • Cougar Cindy Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    Wayne of El Paso, you are a wise man. Jake, stick this out and you could be as great as you and everyone believed you would be. We want it for you. This may be the best thing that could have happened for your career.

    GO COUGARS!

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Oct. 20, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    I'm also *really* disappointed in his coy little answer about whether or not he will transfer. The right answer is: "I am a BYU Cougar. I will do whatever they need me to do to have the team succeed."

    If it is all about you, then go somewhere else, and good riddance.

  • SportsFann Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    I predict if Riley finishes the season as the starter Heaps will jump ship, go on a mission and play elsewhere. I've always thought it has to brutal when your whole like you have been so much better than anyone on the field and then in college things equal out. I really hope Heaps stays at BYU, but if I had to bet, I say no. Whatever happens, he';s a good kid and I hope he does well.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Oct. 20, 2011 11:08 p.m.

    Anyone who feels Jake got shafted by being benched has not been paying attention. He has a lot to learn about grit, poise, and leadership from Nelson. A player who stands there and watches a defender run an interception past him into the end zone, or slides two yards short of a first down to avoid being hit does not deserve the starting job in big-time football, regardless of his innate skills. Heaps has plenty of potential. It is all on him to tap it and become a D-1 QB. Riley earns his starter role every game since they put him in. And anyone who is still saying he can't throw didn't watch the OSU game.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 11:02 p.m.

    Heaps is on the bench because of his play not because of coaching or any other excuse. The opportunities were there for Heaps to make plays and he didnt get it done. Against Central Florida and Utah State he had recievers wide open a number of times and his throws were all over the place. I think 95% of it is mental, he just doesnt have any confidence and doesnt trust his teammates. He played scared and hurried his throws in order to try and avoid taking a hit. I honesty think redshirting would do him some good, kid needs to mature and learn how to become a leader. He has got to toughen up and gain the respect of his teammates. I like him and he has all the tools to be a great QB but he has alot to learn. Hopefully benching him is what he needs, he needs to be humbled and maybe if he gets another opportunity this season he will take advantage of it and play well but if he doesn't he should consider redshirting.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Oct. 20, 2011 9:34 p.m.

    It is hard to know what happened. Marriage is part of it. Team chemistry is a part. Standing there watching his pick six head toward the end zone without trying to stop it cost him dearly with team mates and fans. Leadership is a funny thing. It is hard to earn but easy to loose.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Oct. 20, 2011 9:18 p.m.

    If Heaps transfers, it will be for the best. Heaps transfering will show he is/was about himself and not the team. If he stays, it shows he is willing to tough it out and learn from his mistakes and work for something he wants. If he leaves we got Taysom Hill coming in and then Tanner Mangum after that. BYU will be just fine? I also want to see Lark given a chance. He has the tools to be good also!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2011 9:11 p.m.

    If the patience you guys are showing in regards to Heaps is the same patience you guys display with your family, then I feel really bad for your family. Let the kid grow up, please. You can resume these negative comments during his senior year if he is still as he is now.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Oct. 20, 2011 8:48 p.m.

    Scrambling qbs always get hurt, Heaps will be back.

  • Old Navy Provo, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 8:38 p.m.

    Heaps should transfer. He needs a fresh start.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Oct. 20, 2011 8:17 p.m.

    Heaps just looks weak. He was supposed to be the next superstar but we hear that all over the country. College ball is not the same as high school ball just like the NFL is not College ball. There have been many awesome college ball players that never made it in the NFL. Such is sports. Like any sport in life, some make it and some don't. For the moment Heaps has not. Will he ever, only time will tell but I think he will need to be a lot tougher if he wants to.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2011 8:13 p.m.

    Does Jake own a sledgehammer.

    I don't like to revel in another person's failure, but Jake didn't produce a spark for his team.

    How strong your arm is, or the form in which you throw the football, is not the core of what makes a QB successful. Can you stand in the pocket? Can you stay mentally strong in times of physical and mental stress? Can you encourage and lead your team mates? Can you be durable? Can you handle the weather? Can you read defenses. Can you be consistent in all of this? Personally, even though Jake Heaps is a younger player, I don't know that he will ever have toughness and moxy.

    Riley Nelson has the QB package of traits in his heart. Will he be a great QB? I doubt it. That said, he gets everything out of himself, and his team follows him and his courage.

  • rok San Diego, CA
    Oct. 20, 2011 7:42 p.m.

    I think getting married is what's bringing him down. Is it true he got married so people would stop hassling him to go on a mission?

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 7:23 p.m.

    What I noticed with Jake was that he was hurried, harried, in comparison to Riley, who was more mature, taking a look at option 2, then 3, and moving around to buy more time as needed. Jake just needs to settle down, play fearless and confident. He cannot be afraid to take a hit, be a footballer, as this isn't tennis.

    The offensive line was not protecting well with Jake, and the receivers were dropping passes, even some of the well thrown ones. The o-line has great athletes, but hadn't been providing either the holes for the rbs or the protection you might expect. That played right to Riley's scramblin game.

  • Dr Rush Saint George, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 7:17 p.m.

    Touch situation for Heaps??? What? How about James Lark? Heaps had over 14 games to prove if he's that starting QB,and he's proved he isn't but how about Lark,not given a chance at all,he should have taken the offers he got from Arizona or UCLA instead of going back to BYU,sorry James, looks like holding the clipboard for your college career is going to be it,and you are the best QB of the three,sad.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Oct. 20, 2011 7:16 p.m.

    IF Nelson survives this season healthy, and that's a huge if the risks he takes in running the ball, Heaps will transfer at the end of the season. There's is zero chance he would stay next year and play behind Nelson again. And Apo will surely follow him out. Those two are tied to the hip. The realities of major college football. Some times life lessons are hard.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Oct. 20, 2011 6:59 p.m.

    This isn't the kid that was going to be an All-American & Heisman trophy winner recruited from Washington that was going to make everybody forget the many good QB's at the "Y" is it? Oh my gosh!

  • AzTim Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 20, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    Don't give me the baloney that Doman's new offense has thrown Heaps off his game. He's a FOOTBALL player. Run the plays they give you. Doesn't matter if Doman's offense passes less than Anae's; when Jake passed the ball he missed his receivers terribly: under thrown, thrown too hard, sailed way over their heads. You can't blame Doman for Jake looking the other way on the pick six so wouldn't have to tackle the guy he gifted the ball to, or hook sliding well before the threat of a tackle, or ducking as he's throwing a pass when pass rushers are breathing down his neck.

    I've said it before, Jake the yellow jersey off Jake in practice, toughen him up a little and he'll be fine. He's got the tools; now if he just add the heart and grit.

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    Oct. 20, 2011 6:28 p.m.

    >I predicted Austin Collie being a bust in the NFL

    Wow. So...you never watched him play in college?!

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 6:05 p.m.

    Transfer man. No future in Provo.

  • GSwenz PROVIDENCE, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:56 p.m.

    @Starfarer

    It's a comment board. Hence it is a place for people to express their opinions. I think you are kind of missing the point here... It's football, if people want to talk negatively or positively about Heaps or Nelson as a football player let em do it. It's a part of the game. Nothing personal. If people think their comments are bad, they will let them know.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:55 p.m.

    Jake I don't blame you if you leave at all. Why stay at a program that can't develop QB's like they use to. Use that red shirt and find a school and fan base who will support you.

    To bad Southappa and St George to slc fan. Not a relative but a realist.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:48 p.m.

    Stay in there dude.

  • JMT Springville, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:46 p.m.

    Ever since I predicted Austin Collie being a bust in the NFL, my judgement is suspect. I don't pretend to be an expert, just another fanatic with an opinion.

    With disclaimer Mr Patriot has a serious point to consider. Brandon Doman is new, great scamble play maker though was not a pure quarterback himself. Is this hurting Heaps? Maybe, I don't know.

    With Heaps the one thing I notice is his physical toughness. I'm sure he is tougher then me but he strikes me as so risk avoidance how can he possibly play this position when the heat is really on? I remember Ty Detmer taking stitches on his chin, gluing gauze or something on his chin, running out and beating Miami. I don't see that kind of toughness from Heaps. I see him throw the ball and duck for cover. When an interception is thrown he is the last to pretend like he is trying to make a tackle.

    All of this will sort out, and clearly Coach Doman has lots to learn though if they can continue to build...I just hope what is hurting Heaps is Heaps, not the coaching.

    Then again, I said Collie would flop.

  • QBU OREM, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:31 p.m.

    Heaps has struggled, but he has played the hardest part of the schedule and he had to deal with breaking the whole team into a new offense, it takes time for things to click. Nelson clearly has the leg up on him in leadership, fight, and maturity and that's what a young struggling BYU team needed when they made the switch. It was the right move. I dont think it matters who is the QB the rest of the way. But what does matter is how Heaps handles the situation. If he is put into the game, he needs to be a leader and show some fight to earn his job back. If they stick with Riley, he needs to be humble, learn what he can, redshirt next year if he isn't the starting QB, and come back for 2 great years when he is ready.
    If he takes the cowards way out and transfers, that shows the character he really has. If he isnt competitive enough to earn the starting spot in college he never has a chance to make it to the NFL which has been his goal all along. And we dont want a guy like that

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:30 p.m.

    Agree with much of what has been said. Heaps looked good against weak sisters and wasn't bad against Utah in Anae's offense. Improved and looked great in the bowl game. This year, with new offense, but same people, pretty much, he disintegrated. Got worse every game. Hurried throws. Looked scared, confused.

    He is 19 years old. He'll mature and may well be great. But he has to earn his way. If he thinks that a transfer is a good option, he can look at some of the other "great" QBs who transferred. None did well. Maybe some of you guys with more time on your hands can look up the recent transfers out of the BYU program.

    Jake, if you read this, take your lumps and learn. McMahon was redshirted behind Mark Wilson. Young did not start until his junior year. Learn your trade, work out and get stronger and tougher, and wait your turn. Nobody is "entitled" to start for anybody, let alone at BYU.

  • Rebel-Aggie Provo, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:26 p.m.

    "At this point, I really haven't given that any thought. It's too early to talk about that stuff."

    That means "yes I am thinking about it but I obviously can't say anything because it would ruin me right now."

    Any answer other than, "No, I'm not going to transfer" means "yes, I'm thinking about it."

  • jemod Bedford, WY
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:23 p.m.

    Best thing for Jake would be a transfer from BYU to MTC. He would return with some skills he is now lacking.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    Has anyone considered the possibility that Heaps isn't as 'talented' as first thought? I'm sorry, but he didn't play against really tough competition when he was in this year.

    He BARELY beat Ole Miss...a miserable team.
    He lost to Texas...a team that got CRUSHED by OU and beat the next week by OSU.
    He lost BIG to the arch rival at home...and Utah has yet to beat a quality opponent.
    He very nearly lost to USU...a team that is only 2-4 (although, probably better than their record indicates.)

    What is the big deal about this guy? If he did transfer, would it be that be a deal? BYU has had players like this before. Lots of Hype and usually forgotten in a year or two.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    Runner,

    For a great QB, with "same talent" as Riley, he sure does struggle with anyone half way decent.

    The storm your say he got caught up in was created only by himself, he held that conference to announce his decision to attend BYU.

    I find that hard to believe. The games I have watched with him playing, he flat out stinks.

    Jake should transfer, nobody wants him at BYU, maybe Western New Mexico State Tech would have a use to him as the waterboy or something.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:53 p.m.

    Look.....Heaps couldn't get it done....Does it mean his career is over? No WAY! And Utah is no QB factory option either.....far from it!

    Stay with the date who brought you.....prepare, execute and focus on your next chance! Be ready this time.....Come out and hit your recievers and execute the game plan...

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:51 p.m.

    I just love armchair quarterbacks who get to sit back and pronounce their intelligence on comment boards as if they knew what they were talking about.

    Please regale us some more about how much you understand what is going on, what you think should be done, and who should be playing.

    Better yet, lets get a TV crew to follow you around your job and point out all the things that you don't do up to snuff and allow everyone else to make comments on a comment board anonymously.

  • Idaho_Boy Aberdeen, ID
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:48 p.m.

    I'd like to see a couple of plays built into the game plan that gets Heaps out on the field every game regardless of the score. They did the same thing for Riley when Heaps was starting.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    I can't believe I am in agreement with patriot's last post.

  • SoUtHapa Saint George, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    patriot,
    You may want to seek medical help for your depressed state. Observations:

    A. You have obviously never met Riley. 5'10"? No.
    B. Riley's passing has been much more accurate and efficient than Jake's after just one partial and one full week of snaps.
    C. You sure seem to think you know a lot about being on the bench, hmmm, wonder why?
    D. I hope Heaps has a more optimistic outlook on his future than you do. You are a bummer!
    E. If he doesn't, and he leaves, I wish him well but the offense won't miss a beat. It's only gotten better so far.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    Feel bad for this kid. His spoiled rich kid attitude certainly turns away many people, and rightfully so. But there's no question Bronco and his staff deserve a good chunk of the blame for his struggles. When you get an arrogant, full of himself kid who sets unrealistic expectations for himself, that just fuels the fanbase. Bronco/Anae/Doman whoever, should have knocked this kid off his perch the day he walked on campus. They let his attitude fester, and it resulted in a team who lost respect for him when he did not play well.

    The kid has terrific physical tools, just doesn't have the mental ability to lead a team. He's always focused on leading himself. Until that changes, he'll be the most highly touted clipboard holder in the country.

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:30 p.m.

    Patriot- good insight. Another ? though, Most of the talk last year was fans wanting to get rid of Anae, maybe not you, but it seemed like that was what you coug fans were wanting. Is that fair? I like the statement about Smith, I knew he could be a decent QB with the right hands leading him, and it looks like that may now happen. I think you are right, Heaps will transfer.

  • VictorVonTrap Draper, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:17 p.m.

    I think the smartest thing Heaps can do with his talent is transfer. BYU isn't the QB factory it once was and it doesn't have the coaching it needs for Heaps type of style.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 4:00 p.m.

    re:joseywales

    Yes and he played GREAT as a true freshman last year under Robert Anae. Every BYU fan that paid attention was thinking Heaps would pick up where he left off last year.... and then came Brandon Doman as offensive coordinator. Heaps .. from the jump .. had no feel for the Doman offense and that isn't going to change going forward. Doman was a run-first QB when he played under Crowton and Heaps is a QB that would really fit well in a Norm Chow type system which favors true drop back passers (Ty Detmer, Carson Palmer, etc...). There is a reason why Nelson is doing well under Doman and Heaps isn't and it has NOTHING to do with throwing the football or the mental part of the game either. Heaps proved last year that even as a freshman he had the mental part mastered. Look at Alex Smith with the 49ers and what a change in coaches has done for him. Alex is playing now like he played at the U under another great coach - Urban Meyer. Heaps will and should transfer and BYU will be loser out of that deal. Heaps will be a star elsewhere.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 3:47 p.m.

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading this article. I want to laugh at the spin from Doman that "he hopes Jake stays at BYU" or that Jake can some how learn alot from being benched. For anyone who has ever played sports I 100% guarantee they would all agree that they learned NOTHING from being benched - NOTHING!! Being benched means the coaches have no confidence in you. If and when you ever get back in a game your self confidence is going to be hurting too. Being benched means you stand around alot in practice and watch and your skills become rusty...both physical and mental. Heaps is NOT and I repeat NOT going to set on his tail for a year and a half behind a 5'10" QB that can't throw the ball. Heaps knows that with his talent as a pure drop back passer there are alot of offensive coordinators that would LOVE to bring Jake in and mold him and help him reach his potential. Brandon Doman is NOT one of those coordinators.. in fact I personally think Doman is and was a mistake as coordinator at BYU.

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Oct. 20, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    C'mon, y'all...back off Jake. He is a great QB and will be a great QB. He just got caught up in a bit of a "perfect storm", i.e., high expectations, new coaching staff at both the OC and RB position, playing the toughest part of the schedule, etc. I know people can say, well look what he did against USU, yeah whatever, Nelson came in, brought some fire, some intensity, some craziness, but at the end of the day, he was lucky.

    Riley and Jake are about the same in terms of effectivness and talent, different playing styles, but same level of talent. And if Nelson would have started the year, who knows, maybe he is sitting on the bench right now. You never know.

    Hang in there Jake. Things will work out and this will be a strengthening experience for you.

  • sisucas San Bernardino, CA
    Oct. 20, 2011 3:32 p.m.

    I hope Heaps doesn't transfer. He could still be great. He definitely wasn't great this year though. He could learn a lot from Rilery Nelson and others and have a great couple of years at the helm of BYU. The way Riley plays he could also get a season-ending injury again any time (heaven forbid) and Heaps could be back on top. I think if Heaps stays humble and faces his demons he could have a long, awesome career. If he transfers away BYU will be okay, but Jake will never be what he could have been.

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    Wasn't this the guy that MOST Cougar fans were comparing to Boscoe, Young, McMahon, Detmer,etc... about this time last year? He was going to be the next great one, wasn't he? What happened?