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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 19 2011 5:00 a.m. MDT

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yarrlydarb
Ogden, UT

You say "The gesture showcased the fact players see themselves as something grander than themselves."

The operative words "see" and "grander" in that sentence seem to me to belie your point.

I think maybe you read a little too much into the words on the players backs.

It seems to me it is more "showy" than their own names.

It seems ingenuous to me, as if someone bears testimony with things like "I'm humble, I'm charitable, I'm loving, I serve my neighbor, I'm a 100% attender," etc.

If BYU were to wear their slogan "Band of Brothers" on their backs it would seem to me they were overly showy in how they see themselves.

Hence, I disagree with you that putting such words on their backs shows much more than "tooting your own horn" about what "good people" you are.

Could be wrong, I'm sure, but I'm just saying, it doesn't appear to me that advertising yourself for being "good, honorable," etc. is indicative of true character.

It's how they behave WITHOUT calling attention to themselves, such as playing a full game with no unsportsmanlike penalties, grandstanding in the end zones, taunting, using bad language etc. that really counts.

welcomethemall
Nampa, ID

Oh my goodness... really? That's like calling Ammon out for boasting. You were probably chewing people out for saying they were "proud" of their kids after that seminal talk by President Benson re: pride.

These boys (and their women counterparts on the Academy's many other teams) aren't saying, "look at me!" Those words are aspirational. They are ideals, and to those kids those things matter more than the name their parents gave them.

On your next vacation go to Colorado Springs - go to Annapolis - go to West Point... take a tour. Sit in on some classes. Go to a practice. You will see... no you will *feel* their pride is in their team, their country, their classmates, and their God (however they name Him).

Frankly, you make and miss the author's point at the same time. Open your heart to the possibility that as good, and important, as your concept of quiet humility is.. it is also good to have a light shining forth in a way that people can see aspirations to higher standards.

What I read when I see those jerseys (rather than a claim of personal awesomeness) is, "Come join us! There is something better for all!"

hc1951
Bend, OR

I add Pema Chodron's quote to my list of worthwhile quotes AND plagiarized it on my Facebook wall. Thank you.

yarrlydarb
Ogden, UT

Give me a break, welcomethemall.

These young men aren't "aspiring" to give service etc., etc, etc. on the football field.

They're there to "kick butt," and that's what they go all out to do against any team on the field with them.

And so they should.

It's an athletic competition and competitors don't "serve" their opponents, they do all they can to defeat them.

Again, and so they should.

By pasting on their backs such things as "service" etc. they are advertising what the United States Air Force cadets are supposed to do; i.e., serve their country.

Athletes on the field, or on the floor, or on the diamond, on the track, or in the pool are not "serving" anyone, they are trying to win out over someone else.

And so they should.

But, once more, by displaying those service oriented words on their backs, they're tooting their own horns at their opponents.

welcomethemall
Nampa, ID

Nahhh - I don't want to give you a break. I'm calling troll on this one...

It's self-righteous, wound-up people like you who give Mormonism - and frankly all religion a bad name.

These kids ARE all about service. When was the last time you made a sustantive commitment to die for something, knowing in four years that bill can come due. This isn't some vague religious promise rationalized with the thought that what my commitment really means is that I promise to live a certain way for the next 70+ years.

How many of your classmates have come home in flag-draped coffins? Did you look at that coffin wondering if you were next? Have you had a blue or gold star hanging in your window? If not, you need to sit down at the feet of these kids and their moms, close your mouth and open your mind.

These kids at every one of the service academies, men and women, are some of the best stories in sports... and frankly, in America.

So go troll on some hater site... the author got this one perfectly.

yarrlydarb
Ogden, UT

Me thinks I detect a trace of judgmentalness.

I never said these kids were anything less than excellent examples of how young people should, especially in this day and age.

I believe they are exactly what their football jerseys say they are. I just don't think they need to advertise it. Just continue being who they are.

No one knows better than I what sacrifices these young people have made for their country. Without going into it, one of my own son-in-laws is a prime example.

But he is also one who will deflect every attempt and someone's attempt to set him as an example, let alone a hero. He would never do a thing to call attention to what I would call his heroic actions.

I think that is the case with most of your young people who have given so much in their service. Most all the time, the great majority do just as my son-in-law does; i.e., he deflects reference to his deeds.

And as for "hater sites," I think you may have let your own self-righteousness lead you to some very mistaken conclusions.

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