How do you choose a President?You choose someone......who had an Ivy League education?...who was born into wealth and
lives in wealth?...who has led large corporations (because of being
born and living in wealth)?...who has "good character"?
(and "good hair"?)How do you evaluate character? Marital
status? Religious affiliation?Because you think that:
"Good" people only come from religious backgrounds? (Atheists need not
apply). Really?"Good" people are married (to a member of
the opposite sex), never divorced, and have "good" children?
Really?"Good" people are "Christian" and willing
to be open about it, wear it on their sleeve, and try to "testify" at
every opportunity? Really?What about someone who......has a demonstrated track record of public service?...has articulated
sound positions on important political, economic, and social issues?...has
a demonstrated commitment to advancing the international position and influence
of the USA?...has an intelligent mastery of the principles of government,
an applied understanding of the Constitution, and an appreciation for the fact
that today is today and 1776 was a long, long time ago?We don't have
a lack of good candidates. We have a lack of good, thoughtful VOTERS!
The performance of Governor Parry has put him in a perfect position to be
nominated as..... Vice President. He is the logical heir to Palin, Biden,
Quayle, Agnew et al.
@mightymite - is romney mormon or lutheranWhere did you come up with him
maybe being Lutheran? He belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints...what many people call Mormons because of the Book of Mormon that they
also believe is scripture.@everyoneWhy can people just not
STOP already with non-acceptance of differing views? Clearly
"Mormons" cannot be lumped into a single group no more than Catholics
can be said to all have the same exact ideas, desires, wishes or plans. The
gospel of a religion may teach one thing, but that does not mean that everyone
belonging to that religion completely follows. Someone can be of a religion and
have no desire to study it, live it, teach it, defend it or otherwise. Clearly
everyone has individual ideas and plans regardless of race and religion. Huntsman is running- ... Mormon heritage, his wife raised Episcopalian,
his children attended Catholic schools, he attended a Lutheran school, adopted a
child from India-Hindu traditions....they get along as a family just fine like
our nation must learn to do. "These presidential nomination
contests arent about religion; theyre about leadership." --Jon Huntsman Jr
@DSB: You HATE Mormons - What did they do to you? I could say I hate Obama
as a president. It doesn't mean I hate blacks. I could say I hate so and
so....it doesn't mean I hate Catholics just because they may Catholic. You hate
Mormons....kind of hard to lump them all into one! I may as well say I hate
people...because everyone is stupid and rude at some point or another....but I
don't.@DSB: I believe what LDS Lib meant is that being any certain
religion should not disqualify someone from running or becoming President.
Sure...people will vote for who they will vote fore and they will have some kind
of reasoning behind it. However, becoming President DOES have some
qualifications. Like being born in the United States.... but being a certain
religion or NOT being a certain religion is not a qualification. If it
were...well, you may as well not have separation of church and state if you had
specific religions as a qualification or dis-qualifier, just as being japanese,
black, or of any particular ancestry is also not a qualification or
To: O'really, Thank you for your concern and councel, but I am not sure what you
are suggesting other than may be ingnorance is bliss. However, I just can not
see that being the answer that we are intented to seek. Nevertheless, I imagine
it could make life much easier. I hope you have a good day too.
Huckabee used attacks on LDS beliefs to wreck Romney's train in 2008, and Perry
is doing the same...there is that underlying belief system of Bible belt
Christians that is rooted in pride, they are right, LDS are wrong kind of thing,
that won't let them vote for Mitt...it is a low blow such as is outlawed in
boxing,to Mitt, but for those who will do anything to win, a mere warning
doesn't change the pain inflicted, it still helps them win, so they are willing
to fight dirty...thats politics.There's no question Perry is
allowing his backers to keep up these attacks, just enough to remind
Evangelicals, Southern Baptists, et al that they should not vote for Mitt
because he is LDS. The reasons to not vote for Perry are so much
greater, he is a "politician" in the worst tradition, having gone from
Al Gore supporter to Republican and now to whatever it takes to win an
office...Pres. Obama is of that same way, reading the polls, manipulating the
people, all fluff and no substance, "playing the ignorant like a
banjo," to get their votes.
To skeptic2 Nephi 9:2828 O that cunning plan of the evil
one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they
are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of
God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their
wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.Especially the part about "supposing they know of themselves". Just
a word of caution. Have a good day.
@ LDS LiberalRead the rest of the Constitution please Mr. Rock -
specifically Article VI --"...no religious Test shall ever be
required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United
States."===Please tell me something I don't already
know. The constitution refers to an official government test to qualify for the
ballot. People are free to form their own opinions on any criteria they choose
to use.You are correct that government and religion should not be
merged. This is because men are corrupt. Governments have historically used
religion as a tool to get whatever they want. Governments corrupt religions, not
the other way around for the most part.After the second coming there
will be a theocracy. Church and state will be merged although religious freedom
will still exist. When God is your king how do you separate church and state?In Pahoran's reply to Captain Moroni we learn that the Spirit of God is
the Spirit of Freedom. (Alma 61:15) Those who attempt to separate people from
their religion are attempting to separate men from the source of freedom. Very
The temptation to use decades of inborn prejudice and religious intolerance
against a political candidate for political gain is too great for some. The fact
is this stuff exists, but that one candidate is willing to exploit it, makes
that candidate unworthy of the presidency. A President should have
the character to rise above these things. Perry isn't doing that. If Obama's
people go there, I'll feel likewise. There's not place in America for
RE: O'really, To answer your request: "The way many Mormons are trying to
down play and dodge their religious teachings" For example??Read the Book of Mormon, D&C, Mormon Journall of Discourse, vol. 9
p.31; vol 8:171; vol 8:199; vol.10: 230; Pearl of Great Price; Orson Pratt;
Mormon Doctrin 1979, p670. It is surprising how so many know so little about
what they proclaim to believe. Studing Mormon history is very interesting and
educational. It should be recommended to all interested followers.
If you want stories of persecution, read about those who were gentiles in Utah
during Brigham Young's time. Or read about the Fancher wagon train party.
Wow, the persecution complex just keeps getting worse.
@The Deuce;Mormon kids in Utah treat non-Mormon kids at school the
same way that your non-Mormon kids in school treated the Mormon kids.That doesn't make either scenario right, but it is a fact. The minority kids
at school get picked on by those of the majority. Here in Utah, the
Mormon kids are the majority and do the taunting and teasing. Again, it isn't
right, but don't think for a second that your Mormon friends, had they been in
Utah wouldn't have been wearing the other shoe.
DSB says:To RanchHand - but, there is not a single incident of Romney
disparaging anyone because of religion, so your little claim that he would
"NO DOUBT" engage in that kind of dirty trick is really more a
reflection of your own rabid hatred of Republican politicians (and probably
Mormons, based on your other biased comments), than a credible prediction of
Romney's inclinations.---First. I do NOT hate Mormons.
My entire family is LDS and a whole hoard of my friends are as well. I hate
your corporation. There IS a difference.Second. Romney is a
politician through and through. He'll say ANYTHING to get elected. He CAN'T
say anything bad about his opponents religions or he risks losing ALL votes from
the religious fanatics on that side.Third. Religion and politics
are both corrupting influences and joined, they become super corrupt. Just look
at these comment boards for proof of that.@don17;"...here in a blessed country that promotes freedom, liberty and justice
for all that when bigorty is in front of us we fail to see it unless it's past
bigotry. "---Tell that to the GLBT citizens for
whom Mormons were leading the charge to discriminate.
The one thing that Romney needs to say is that Harry Reid is a member of the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and leave it at that. What are they
going to do put down Reid if it is the Obama team wanting to make Mitt Romney
look weird because of his faith. Faith should never be the issue here in running
for the President of the Untied States. It should be on the issues and how one
preforms and Rick Perry has had a poor showing int that area. Mitt is much
better in what he knows as well as how he even acts like he is already the
President. It makes me sick that so many are still trying so hard to make those
who believe in the Church look like we have a disease or something.
@LValfre"We're so faithful. We're so exhorted. We've always
been followers. We're so indoctrinated. Does that sum it up pretty
well?"I was poking fun of my church's persecution/victim
complex. I have heard it my entire life. I would like to just practice my
religion without having to compare my ancestor's suffering compared to everyone
else's. Growing up we never heard both sides of any story, just how we were
persecuted and I resent that. As an adult, studying history I have learned that
not everything that happened to the early Saints (and current Saints) was
blameless for the Saints - and guess what? It hasn't tainted my love or
testimony of the gospel at all.
To LValfre:I live in Chicago but am obsessed with Utah's newspaper
and dominant religion. I hate Mormons but there are too few in Chicago to
satisfy my thirst to offend on a large scale.Does that sum it up
"The way many Mormons are trying to down play and dodge their religious
teachings" For example??
It just makes me chuckle. Conservative Christians who believe in winning at
any cost results in some of the most mind bending results. Lying, spreading
false information, insults, lack of integrity.... all immoral unless it is in
the political theatre. Kind of link swearing in your car with the windows
rolled up doesn't count because no one can hear you.I am so looking
forward to the day when the Christian Right actually acts like what they stand
for, rather than this mud slinging win at all cost crowd we have today.
The way many Mormons are trying to down play and dodge their religious teachings
it appears they may be willing to exchange their believes for political position
Interesting how instead of calling put Perry and his band of bigots some have
tried to make this about President Obama. President Obama did not call the LDS
Church a CUlt. In fact, President Obama was grateful for meeting with and being
presented with family genealogy when he met President Monson. This
is about one thing, the down and dirty bigoted politics in a concerted effort to
make Romney look bad by labeling the LDS Church a cult.Notice Perry
has NOT said that he think the LDS Church is Christian, all he said was "I
don't believe it is a cult" and he has not denounced his backers. Why?
Because he knows he needs these close minded overly religious types to sink
Romney in the South. Just watch, Romney to stumble in the South just like last
time. Watch for Cain to invoke God for this that and the other while trying to
raise taxes on everyone and Bachmann take federal money while decrying it.
Perry is a tax and spend big government supporter. They will all
get desperate and start attacking the LDS faith. This is what the Republican
party has become.
You don't have to be particularly astute to figure out that the LDS faith is
solidly Christian. Also, you don't have to be real informed to figure out that
Rick Perry isn't a real Christian, a real conservative, or a real cowboy. But
he's a real politician, and has the ability to draw in those who don't have a
clue and don't read between the lines.
Which 6 people recommended the comment that Obama labeled Romney as 'weird',
when there is zero proof of that, and just ignore the subject of the article
that Rick Perry's backers are ON RECORD as saying that Romney's part of a cult?
Take your fingers out of your ears. Open your eyes.
I liked Perry at first, and I am generally not a one-issue guy, but this becomes
a character issue, not a policy issue. Since Perry was unwilling to denounce
this, he is no better than Van Buren was and doesn't deserve to sit in the White
House. I am beginning to fear we are headed toward re-electing Obama, much as
we did Clinton...Except the economy and no third-party candidate may be Obama's
undoing. (Clinton reaped the rewards of Reaganomics and Perot being on the
I would encourage anyone that is LDS like myself to take inventory and make sure
you are not inflicting this type of bigotry, hatred and pain on people of other
faiths. This is the face of the politics of fear that looks to divide people.
Don't be a part of spreading it, don't be like some people I hear say ugly
things about other religions.I knew from the beginning this was not
"just one guy" spouting off. I knew it was part of a larger plan. I
predicted this months ago and I expect it to continue. There is enough lack of
knowledge about the LDS Church for these kind of fear mongering tactics to
work.Fellow LDS, know your LDS Church history and know history of
the world and see the face of bigotry and hatred and do not be a part of it, do
not support those who would be in positions of power to propagate it. Once they
come for the groups you misunderstand and hate, they will come for you too.
@CHS 85,"We're so persecuted. We're so persecuted. We've always
been persecuted. We're so persecuted. Does that sum it up pretty
well?"We're so faithful. We're so exhorted. We've always been
followers. We're so indoctrinated. Does that sum it up pretty well?
We're so persecuted. We're so persecuted. We've always been persecuted. We're
so persecuted. Does that sum it up pretty well?
---Counter Intelligence | 1:31 p.m. Oct. 18, 2011 Salt Lake City, UTThat is Obama's playbook; labeling Romney "weird" as a shill for
Mormon----Nice try but this is what the Republican party has become
and one reason I am an independent. This won't be the last of it, just wait for
those robocalls when the primaries start to scare and intimidate people into
voting for "Real Christians". This is the kind of hatred and bigotry
you support when you give money to a party taken over by Southern religious
extremists.This is the kind of politics that sunk McCain in 2000 vs.
Bush with the robocalls saying McCain had an illegitimate black daughter. The
Republican Party has become the party of fear and intimidation.Perry
is W Bush 2, he says small government but has increased taxes and has no problem
spending 17 billion, criticizing the source of it and then taking credit for it.
Sure, Perry's backers are behind it... just as the LDS Church was behind
lobbying, political office "cultivating", and financing the
establishment of "not-for-profit" PACS and "coalition"
committees for the purpose of undermining same-sex marriage legislation in
Hawaii and California.It is bad when Perry's backers do it, but good
when the LDS Church does it?
First, the word 'might' appears twice in the first sentence, framing this
article as little more than speculation. Second, I among others have said it;
religion has no place in politics. Let every candidate tell us it's none of our
business and this nonsense will stop. I'm not voting for preacher in chief; if
this were the case I'm not voting for perry or romney or any of the rest of 'em.
For those of the LDS faith who have had to defend this faith against the odds, I
support your efforts. I had a couple of occassions in high school where an LDS
member faced a couple of individuals who were giving him a bad time over
religion. I had friends who were members at this time and decided to step in.
Bottom line was that this never happened again. I have also enjoyed finding out
just how much some of these people know about the LDS faith by engaging in
discussion with them. I do not profess to be an expert but know enough about the
LDS religion to hold my own against most. You can tell quite easily that many of
these people simply are repeating stories told to them and when challenged they
don't have any facts. But again, it is all perception. You tell enough incorrect
stories and all of a sudden it is history.
Rick Perry should have made his point of view clear BEFORE the chose to have the
pastor back him publicly and speak for him.Now, with the backlash to
the pastor, Perry says he doesn't believe that Mormons are not Christian.It's politics and politics only. What's going to make the biggest
difference in votes.Who knows what Perry really believes? For that
matter, who knows what any politician really believes?The believe in
votes, that's what they believe in. That's what they worship, too.
These surrogates for Perry's campaign are playing by the same game plan that the
Huckabee backers were using.Many of them are, most likely, the same
people. Nothing's changed.
So i confused is romney mormon or lutheran?
People who bring religion - whether its Obama's or Romney's religion - into the
course of discussion are those that are actually more fearful of the correct
thing to do. So, they try and push aside what their fears are and note the thing
that would make a splash in the news. I want to know where the
candidates stand on political views, not religious views.
The same Perry campaign spokesman told the Huffington Post that the Perry
campaign has not encouraged what HuffPo described as "anti-Mormon
sentiment."Has Perry's campaign DIScouraged the
"anti-Mormon sentiment"? Now that is very telling!
This is a measure of Perry's character and it is wanting.
@patriot"all evangelicals think the same about Mormons (they
are programmed by their ministers). The difference with Palin and Backman is the
respect factor. They are much more careful and respectful than Perry's guy.
"Hahahahahaa. You're going to say that one religion is
programmed against Mormons, but Mormon's aren't programmed against any?I thought Joseph Smith was told that "all their creeds were an
abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt" and that
only the Mormon church was true? Isn't this what is taught to EVERY Mormon and
in the scriptures?I agree, they're more respectful and so are the
Mormon candidates. But you, sir, are not respectful and are highly ignorant.
@XelaDave"or Racists, antiwomen, patriarchal dictators, as some
now say ...Just thought I would see what Bruce R. had to say on
this- conference October 1979 for those interested "Well
considering it was 1979, and just a year prior they finally gave blacks equality
in their church (or should I say God gave them equality in the Mormon church), I
would say at that time considering them Racists was HIGHLY VALID. To say they
weren't is a falsity. Have you seen the things the prophets of those times said
about blacks?@ClarkKent,"What a clever way to
defame Perry when you apparently have no real facts to support this .... cause
you likiely knew your readers would ignore this first paragraph and rush to
judgment. "Wow good call. I didn't notice that either. Just
the usual Dnews/LDS bias and fact-spinning you would expect.
re:Dixie Danall evangelicals think the same about Mormons (they are
programmed by their ministers). The difference with Palin and Backman is the
respect factor. They are much more careful and respectful than Perry's guy.
To LDS Lib - just curious, but how is it possible for The Rock to violate the
constitution or trample on it? Is he somehow able to prevent a candidate from
legally running for President? Can he wipe someone off the ballot?Are you saying that citizens don't have a constitutional right to apply any
motivation to their voting decisions? Are you saying we can't consider religion
as a factor when we cast a vote? How about hair color, weight, good looks, or
favorite sitcom? Or, are those OK to consider, but just not religion?And, since you've sworn to uphold the Constitution, are you going to set up
shop at voting locations and make sure no one votes based on a religious
preference? Are you suggesting there should be some kind of police for
eliminating a personal decision to vote based on religion?Although
the Constitution allows for Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists,
dog-worshipers to legally run for President, there is no provision that
prohibits anyone from using religion as a personal motivation for their votes.
Well at least the writer of this article was honest, although it doesn't appear
that many readers paid much attention to the words I put in all caps below:"Two new stories SUGGEST that while Rick Perry has said he doesn't
believe Mormonism is a cult, as one of his backers characterized the LDS Church,
Perry's campaign team MIGHT be cheerleading negative messages about the Mormon
faith, and his backers might be behind them."What a clever way
to defame Perry when you apparently have no real facts to support this ....
cause you likiely knew your readers would ignore this first paragraph and rush
Abeille: Thank You!Dixie Dan: Please, some of us know it. Sarah
Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry and others don't want to
represent America they want to represent ONLY their view. Canidates
change positions on issues as they mature just like we all do as life gives us
opportunities to see that change is needed. Gov. Perry doesn't bend on
positions:neither does President Obama or Harry Reid for that matter. I would
rather support a Mitt Romney who's willing to evaluate and adjust rather than
stand hard and fast to a position while the ship sinks.His ability
to evaluate the United States economy from his vast basis of experience and work
with all groups to get the best people solving the issue means more to me than
an ideolog like Limbaugh or Maddow clone. I'd rather give my vote to a person
who changed his position based on experience and expanded judgement that one who
stands so fast and firm that lets the house burn down around him or her! But
they were a good Christian! My views may not agree with many but a Romney or
You know, there is much more to this than Perry not liking Romney or Religion in
Politics. The core of this is that throughout the world and even here in a
blessed country that promotes freedom, liberty and justice for all that when
bigorty is in front of us we fail to see it unless it's past bigotry. The other
canidates running, including our sitting President don't come out to oppose any
hint of hatred or discrimination running about. They will only openly oppose
what they have become accustomed to opposing though new hatreds or
discrimination may be staring them in the face. Mr. Cain didn't want to
interject in defending Romney when attacked by Perry. His answer was to not get
involved? Hmm sounds like a strong leader? Not! Just like Mrs. Bachmann walked
away from defending Romney. Where is the strength in that? Even right in front
of them, and others on the campaign trail, discrimination and hatred was able to
rise up and through complaceny they have condoned the continued attacks on
Romney. By doing so they set the example and now the media continues to attack
as do others in vailed ways!
To RanchHand 2:23 - but, there is not a single incident of Romney disparaging
anyone because of religion, so your little claim that he would "NO
DOUBT" engage in that kind of dirty trick is really more a reflection of
your own rabid hatred of Republican politicians (and probably Mormons, based on
your other biased comments), than a credible prediction of Romney's
inclinations.And, who said that religion should be involved in
politics? Are you saying nobody has a constitutional right to use religion as
one of a million personal motivations for a vote? Of all the leading
candidates, it seems to me that Romney and Ron Paul are the least inclined to
merge government and religion.
We are called Mormons. Many people look upon us as a singular sect as they cry:
Delusion, false prophets, polygamy, as once was so common; or Racists,
antiwomen, patriarchal dictators, as some now say; or Worshippers of Adam and
deniers of Christ and his grace, as others falsely acclaim; or whatever
sophistry of the moment will sow the seeds of prejudice among those who
otherwise might learn who we are and what we believe.Oftentimes it
seems to us that these cries from shallow minds and these self-serving
statements of those who resent our rapid growth and increasing influence in the
world and these voices whose social and political views we do not espouse are
but another evidence of the truth and divinity of the work itself. The devil is
not dead, and as his voice was once raised in cries of Crucify him, crucify him,
so it now shrieks in shrilling hysteria against Christs people in this day.Just thought I would see what Bruce R. had to say on this- conference
October 1979 for those interested
Perry is done and done. Over and out. He came in with a big splash but was found
to be a back stabber and upside down on his immigration thinking. We need
leaders and not politicians. We already have the worst of the worst in the White
Many LDS people were offended by the remarks of Gov. Perry's minister. Yet
these same LDS faithful have no problem accepting Sarah Palin or Michelle
Bachman who share the same views of Mormonism as Perry's minister does.
The Rock | 2:12 p.m. Oct. 18, 2011 Federal Way, WA @ Reasonable
PersonThe first amendment states; "Congress shall make no law
respecting the establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise
thereof..."============ Read the rest of the
Constitution please Mr. Rock - specifically Article VI -- "...no
religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public
Trust under the United States."This is a clear attack on the
Constitution of the USA. Which I have sworn to protect.Keep the
Religion test OUT of the debate.You will either defend the
Constitution or Trample it, you decide.
don17 -Been there, done that. I'm a 'transplant' to Utah from
Washington. No, Gov. Perry has no idea. Neither did my 3rd grade teacher:'That's right, kids. ANYONE can be President of the United States. Well,
except for you, Jimmy. You and your family are Mormon, so you'll NEVER be
President.'You think I'm joking? I'm not. Neither is Perry.
To all of you saying that it is Okay for religion to be involved in politics,
the founders felt that the two would corrupt one another if merged.I
see the wisdom of their thoughts as you can see the corruption occurring in
religion more and more all the time.
@The Rock;Mormons are every bit as fanatical as the
"nay-sayers". Trufac.It doesn't surprise me in the least
that Perry's camp is behind some of the anti-mormon rhetoric. If the situation
were reversed and the Mittster were the Evangelican and Perry were the Mormon, I
have absolutely NO DOUBT that Mitt's camp would do the same thing.Politicians are a disgusting bunch so why should any of this surprise anyone?
Dirty tricks by (fellow) Republicans? NO, I refuse to believe it!
First off Gov. Perry has not come out against any type of bigotry. Especially
the new appealing Bigotry of attacking Mormons! How simple and easy Gov. Perry
to grow your support in the most vile weak minded way with no regard for the
hatred this leads to! Do you want to lead the new bigotry in America all for the
sake of power? Do you even know what it is like to be a Mormon in America(not
from a predominently Mormon area? Not even most Mormons do. This is what it is
like. You grow up being the only LDS kid in your schools then you go
to HighSchool where you are tormented, ridiculed by students and teachers and
you have your life tossed around. Gov Perry have you ever been beaten by
highschool kids because of your religion? No? Because you lead the majority to
attack a minority? Try like some of us have. You think the 1960's and prior were
bad for African-Americans? You have no idea what some of us lived through! I
love America, but hate what it was while growing up Mormon. And to know
Murdering Mormons was once legal! There's more...
perry is desparate as he continues to slide in the polls. he'll try anything as
well as will omama if Romney is the nominee. teddy did it years ago when running
against Romney for the senate seat years ago.
Oh how interesting a story about a politician using whatever tactic needed to
win- long ago I was taught that you throw everything you can at the wall and
whatever sticks you go with it- nothing new here and religion in politics is an
issue that will never go away- this round it is Mormons- nothing new here
Reasonable Person, read the first amendment. "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING the FREE exercise
thereof." It does not say anything about taking religion out of politics
anymore than it says religion should be in politics. Congress is supposed to be
neutral on the issue. The religion part is either added or not added by the
individule politician using the other part of the first amendment giving freedom
of speech. If that politician is too religious for you, don't elect him. If
he is religious and you like it, vote for him. That's our system, simple as
@ Reasonable PersonThe first amendment states; "Congress shall
make no law respecting the establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free
exercise thereof..."This is a restriction on government, not
religion, churches or the people. It says "Congress shall not..."John Adams said that the constitution was completely capable of
governing a good and righteous people but incapable of governing any other kind.
This is because you can't trust people with self government unless they are
willing to govern themselves.Let the detractors ramble on. They will
only marginalize themselves and the truth will prevail. People are beginning to
figure out that Mormons are good people and the nay-sayers are fanatics.
The stop Romney forces, be they Republican or Democrat, will try to take him out
with the religion issue in the primaries. Obama certainly does not want the
whole Reverend Wright thing to come up again, which is exactly what would happen
if the Obama supporters tried to tar Romneys faith.
As much as I disagree with what the naysayers are saying about a church and
faith I deeply love and am committed to, this is a non-story. Of course Perry's
backers as well as backers of likely any other contender (except perhaps
Huntsman) is going to do this. Unfortunately, that's what politics &
campaigning these days are all about. Again, a non-story here.
"My religion is better than your religion.""No, my religion
is better than yours!"We need to take religion out of politics
and government. The First Amendment's clauses were deemed most
important and placed first, for a reason.