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Published: Sunday, Oct. 16 2011 3:00 p.m. MDT

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NHCougar
Somersworth, NH

I started at BYU-Idaho during the first "official" semester back in 2001. I was able to transition into my degree after two years and graduated in 2005. I absolutely loved my experience at BYU-Idaho. I forged life-time friends, strengthened my testimony, gained valuable life and leadership skills, and married the love of my life. Many of the youth in my ward are at BYU-Idaho, I remind them that as great as the school is, they get out of it - what they put into it.

The inspiration of the name change from Ricks to BYU-Idaho was no more apparent then applying for jobs. Here in New England, none of the companies I interviewed at had ever heard of "Ricks College" but they all knew about "Brigham Young University." I know many complained about the name change when I was in Rexburg, but in those job interviews I recognized the wisdom from President Hinckley.

I'm amazed at the changes to the school/Rexburg since I left. My only wish for the current student-body walking around campus, take those ear-buds out and socialize with each other. Almost everyone looks like drones walking around. ;)

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Why doesn't byu-provo accept all credits transferred from byu-Idaho? Back when it was 2-year Ricks College, BYU rarely accepted transferred credits. Is that BYU admitting that Ricks College wasn't very good?

Flashback
Kearns, UT

I enjoyed my three years at the College Formerly Known as Ricks. I had a great time and unlike John Marx never came close to losing my ecclesiatical endorsement. I did sleep in a few times during sacrament meeting (even slept through some High Council sacrament meetings). While I was upset they did away with intercollegiate athletics, I have sat in on some of the basketball games with the student teams. They are quite good. I treasured my time at Ricks and made some great lifelong friends through our shared experience. Glad that it is a four year now, and wish it would have been when I was there. I wasn't and still am not fond of the name change.

Southern
Phoenix, AZ

Bednar was an associate dean over graduate studies in the business school at the U of Arkansas--he was never a full "Dean at the University of Arkansas" and never claimed to have been. Get your facts straight, DNews.

sdavis1960
Rexburg, ID

Japan Cougar,

How about resurrecting a BYU JV program and playing a couple of games in Rexburg vs. Montana Western or Carrol College!

Other BYU sports like soccer, volleyball, even basketball could have preseason or exhibition games in Rexburg.

I like the idea of celebrating what is great about all of the CES programs and by having a BYU presence in Rexburg, and exporting some of BYUI's touring groups, art shows, etc. to Provo could go along ways.

sdavis1960
Rexburg, ID

To Utter Nonsense,

BYU also offers a degree in Construction Management -- check out their catalog or do a google search.

Demosthenes
Rexburg, ID

A couple of points:

This article is only about BYU-Idaho. What's discussed does NOT apply to BYU, where professors are under the "publish or perish" paradigm in most departments.

No one is forced to go to BYU-Idaho, so complaints about the honor code or church ties are pointless.

The online degrees mentioned are entirely online. Attendance on campus is not required. The number of online degrees will continue to increase, but does have limits.

byu rugby
Crystal Lake, IL

Ricks was a special place for those who, while not college material in the classical sense of the term, had specific talents and abilities that required encouragement and refinement. That is quickly changing. I don't care what the "suits" say. I have had frequent annual contact with BYU-I students since the transition. BYU-I students are gradually becoming as self righteous and condescending as are many of their counter-parts in Provo. The spirit of Christ-like acceptence and love has been replaced with a sort of white-washed corporate attitude, such as you find in the Salt Lake Valley.

Case in point, BYU-I has stripped the various departments of the ability to award departmental scholarships, in favor of centralized university scholorships. Once again, those who least require encouragement and assistance are showered with financial assistance and recognition while, the average student with a unique gift or talent is left to struggle along. President Clark is probably a nice guy and solid member of the church. But I know Ricks College and, BYU-I isn't it!

Allen#1
West Valley, UT

As with first comment, the school in Rexburg will always be Ricks College to many of us.

One BYU is enough.

Allen#1
West Valley, UT

Add: The school in Laie will remain Church College of Hawaii instead of BYU-Hawaii.

Will naming schools BYU-Hawaii, BYU-Idaho, BYU-Star Valley water down the prestige of BYU in Provo?

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

@byu rugby
Looks like you got 1 person who agrees w/you, tens of thousands who don't. Not a bad ratio in any statistical paradigm. In the process you do nothing more than give BYU Rugby a bad name.

tlaulu
Taylorsville, Utah

The numbers of L.D.S educators who've left their posts from other institution of higher learning for B.Y.U-Idaho is amazing. When Summers stood before faculties and staff at the Harvard business school, he simply said of Clark's decision to leave "I was not the president he listened to. President Hinckley had a vision and Clark answered the call. Changes in church business no matter what comes through revelation. When Aaron and his sister Miriam murmured against their brother Moses, the Lord chastened them. Saying, "Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches..". For Clark and those great educators who have passed through the portals of BYU-Idaho they sure know which president to listened to.

Wally West
SLC, UT

re: welcomethemall 12:32 a.m. Oct. 17, 2011

This is still unusual in business education. With two students currently at BYUI, I can tell you anecdotally that there does not seem to be any confusion. My daughters are empowered to think critically, and to find their passions - their callings if you will.

Empowered? Could you not find way to work in that other ridiculous buzzword - proactive?

Critical thinking skills at a religious institution? Really?

CAAZFR
MESA, AZ

When Nephi built the boat we learn that he did not built it according to the manner of men. Something more innovative was required. Same goes for BYU-I.

byu rugby
Crystal Lake, IL

I am eternally grateful for my time at Ricks College. It was a special place for the student with a raw talent or gift but, not the requisite acedemic standing to get into a university. I was continually blessed by the faculty and staff. I owe much of my professional and spiritual success to that experience. That being said, BYU-I is not Ricks. BYU-I for all of it's proven success is gradually morphing into the kind of school I could have never gotten into. I understand the need to educate more of the Lord's Children but, where can kids like I was get a start? Not BYU-I.

Additionally, BYU-I is gradually turning it's back on Agriculture. Intelligence is nothing without a full stomach. This is evidenced by all of the prime agriculture ground used for teaching labs being torn out to put in buildings. The temple is beautiful but, the ground it is built on once attracted agricultural professionals from all over the world to study "dry land" agriculture. We can't hope to be successful training the lord's future leaders without feeding them first.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

BYU and Ricks excel in one thing only. Micromanagement. They wrote the book on it. The other things, classes, books and goofing off are the same as any other college.

flatlander
Omaha, NE

We have had several youth from our stake go to BYU-I and the end results have been a little disappointing. I do not think the youth understand the differences in what BYU-I does and that when done there you need to go someplace else. They have the idea that it is like going to BYU-Provo only in Idaho and the same big company recruiters will be there waiting for them. Hopefully this article will help but out here a thousand miles away not many will read it.

hubbardesquire
Alabaster, Alabama

This sounds great to me! I am very impressed that the Church's college campuses can offer such great educational experiences at private universities for less, or the same, as it costs to attend State-sponsored universities. This is unheard of among the private colleges and universities of this country. To me, this seems absolutely amazing! It is truly a testament to the LDS Church's commitment to provide a better life for as many people as possible through education.

LazyAye
PAYSON, UT

I remember being shocked at hearing that Kim Clarke would be leaving HBC to be president at BYU-Idaho. After now reading about the speech he gave to the 200 colleagues at HBC, I also wanted to applaud him for walking the walk, after talking the talk in encouraging his students to follow their hearts. Kudos to a man who has done a remarkable job.

And how can you not love Pres Hinckley?
"Hal, would we be able to make education less expensive if we turned Ricks into a university?"
"Not sure, let me do some research" . . .
. . . (after research). . .
"President Hinckley, it looks like it would be more expensive, not less."
"No, it won't"

And thus, we move ahead with President Hinckley's prophetic vision.

UNLV
HENDERSON, NV

Too bad it's in Rexburg.

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