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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 12 2011 10:24 p.m. MDT

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Northern
Logan, UT

So essentially what is being said is the majority of the country does not support gay marriage.

When its all said and done, the family unit is the basic unit of society.

tabuno
Clearfield, UT

Finally a news article that goes beyond the media hype and simple minded news headlines and begins to really discusse the complex and substantive nature of this public policy issue. Thanks you Deseret News for introducing news that expands the readerships mind instead of the usual superficial news media razzle-dazzle.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

For Love the real question is "Does God approve of me as a homosexual?"

"I think God does," Love said. "I don't find a preponderance in scripture that God's love and acceptance has anything to do with gender and sexuality. The preponderance has to do with how we treat each other as human beings as part of a community. It is unfortunate that we are so stuck on this issue."
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Wow, talk about it is "all about the wording." "Preponderance in scripture" that "God's love and acceptance has anything to do with gender and sexuality."

Woman in adultery: "Neither do I condemn THEE." In other words, I love you, but "Go thy way and sin no more." I love you, but I don't want you to sin. Sex outside a heterosexual marriage is sin, or in other words, BEHAVIOR that Jesus disapproves of, and there is PLENTY of scriptural evidence of that.

El Chango Supremo
Rexburg, ID

Of course marriage should be between a man and a woman. Same sex marriage simply does not make any biological sense. There's nothing hateful or bigoted about that position, it's just the way we're made!

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Northern
"the family unit is the basic unit of society. "

And yet this state allows single gay people to adopt but not gay couples. So much for caring about family.

StGeorgeBeacon
SAINT GEORGE, UT

What's truly puzzling is why NOM has decided to use same sex marriage as the standard by which to defend "the sanctity of marriage".

For years in this country, the rate of divorce has skyrocketed...as has the rate of couples living together unmarried, and single parenthood (by choice).

Yet, all we're hearing from NOM is how the gays, who make up less than 5% of the entire population (and many of whom don't even want to marry) are "ruining the sanctity of marriage".

If NOM is truly interested in the preserving sanctity of marriage as they claim, then they need to get over their poorly disguised homophobia and focus on the REAL issues at hand.

MCowley
LAGUNA HILLS, CA

This is a losing issue. The 35 and younger crowd could care less about gay marriage. 20 years from now, the trend will increase even further.

TA1
Alexandria, VA

Statistics are always interesting, but we live in a Republic, not a Democracy. If 64% according to this poll do not support same sex marriage how do you address what the remainder of the sample feel? Remember that we pledge allegiance to the flag and to the republic not democracy. This is, was, and always will be an issue of trying to follow the will of the majority, while protecting the minorities wishes whatever the cause du jour is. And in the end why do we obsess so much about causes should we not rather be spending our time on helping those who have less, families and individuals, who are struggling? Setting the example rather than constantly writing about things like this? Sometimes I feel we have lost all perspective on what is really important.

coreypaul
BOSTON, MA

If a question was worded like this: "Do you believe everyone should have equal rights?" the percentage of people who say yes, would most likely be higher, unless of course you are a conservative Christian, who oddly are always against equal rights this proven throughout history, while at the same time believe they have been chosen by their god to rule the world, and believe they are treated worse than all other groups of people, yet are in the majority and make laws endlessly in US Congress, making equal rights for all actually illegal. Clearly, these types of people could not answer "yes" unless they were lying.

Wastintime
Los Angeles, CA

I simply don't respect Mr. Lawrence's work and I would explain why but it isn't being allowed by the moderators.

Born that Way
Layton, UT

God loves all men and women; They are his children. Marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God to help his children become perfected. By caring for someone of the opposite gender, one encompasses the whole human experience in a tiny new world called Marriage. In that world can come new worlds through children of their own. These children are nurtured in a shelter of love, peace, until creating worlds of their own--if they accept someone of their opposite gender--Choosing likewise to create a new world in Marriage. Thus God has created a means by which men and women can experience much the same eternal nature of God, one in which they may know the joys of being a parent, reflect upon the sacred innocent nature of their created children, care for these children and provide for the future in a stable and sound covenant-based society. These relationships may be eternal and linked back to God. Any other relationship outside of Marriage, while meaningful, does not carry eternal importance. No other relationship perpetuates society to the next generation. No other creates worlds without end. No other sociality should be elevated or given precedence.

Pete in Texas
Copperas Cove, TX

I thought it was interesting that they mentioned that when people were given the choice between God and Jesus, they felt the opinions of the two would differ. That, sadly, goes to show where everyone's knowledge of the two is. Can you imagine God saying "something is wrong" and Jesus saying "No, because we love them?" The real irony is that yes.... God can say something is wrong and love you at the same time. That, in essence, is the message that those who've been against gay marriages from the start has been fighting with the gays. If an individual says to me, "Do you think gay marriages are wrong?" I'd answer, "Of course they're wrong. Gay lifestyles are wrong." Now a gay individual would label me as a hatemonger for stating what God has already said. Can God hate? No. Just as Jesus can't. I can say something is wrong and at the same time still love. I do it every day with my kids. We all do. From the beginning right and wrong aren't affected or overridden by love. That is the message that gays won't accept. If I don't support them, I hate them. Who's the bigot?

catram
North Las Vegas, NV

65 percent. Just added my vote. :)

OHBU
Columbus, OH

The two polls aren't necessarily contradictory. A person could very well believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, at the same time realizing that an interpretation of the constitution would allow for same-sex marriages to share the legal rights of heterosexual marriages. Many don't believe a person should drink, but they recognize their legal right to do so.

@El Chango...the purposes in marriage in American society today have reached far beyond childbearing. While you may believe that's the purpose for marriage, for many, many people marriage is a commitment of love between two people who never plan on having children. This applies to heterosexuals and homosexuals. If marriage should only be granted to couples in order to reproduce, then we shouldn't allow barren women, impotent men, or older couples marry either.

Mugabe
ACWORTH, GA

"64 percent of Americans feel that marriage should only be between one man and one woman."

Satan is very clever. He makes sure, in this debate, that Plural Marriages is never again considered because he knows that it is an eternal principle; therefore, he stresses "between one man and one woman."

I don't like writing about this subject because to me it is like debating with Satan and his followers whether Jesus is the Christ, or whether man is a product of divine creation or some evolution design.

In a country where the Declaration of Independence states that, "All men are created equal, and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, slavery is still in practice, families are being torn apart, Rachel still weeping for her sons because they are in a correctional institution some where in this country. Yet we spend time and ink discussing whether two men are justified for having unnatural affection towards one another. Is this the discussion that intelligent men and women find intellectually stimulating?

zer28
Ogden, UT

"In our country, God is viewed as the seat of judgment, whereas Jesus is viewed as the seat of compassion," she said. "I like to ask people what they think Jesus would do about this because they give a totally different answer than if you asked them what God would do."

I find this very interesting that people would believe that God and Jesus have two separate opinions about the same issue, and yet most people believe that they're essentially the same person....

coleman51
Orem, UT

Since when is marriage defined by a poll? As far as that is concerned, when is marriage defined by any person, legislative body, or any group? Marriage is defined by God, and no person, group, or legislative have any right to define what has essentially been the union between one man and one woman since the Garden of Eden. It is highly presumptuous and blasphemous for any people to come up with any stupid idea that flies in the face of what God has settled on and that will never change. For those latter-day saints that believe that gay marriage is a matter of one's preference or a constitutional right, the Church will never change it's position. Marriage is a union between one man and one woman and that will never change.

isrred
Logan, UT

" found that 64 percent of Americans feel that marriage should only be between one man and one woman. Thirty-three percent feel marriage should be redefined to include any two people"

Talk about deliberate and purposely flawed questions to make the results say what you want! When you give respondents the choice of "man and woman" or "any two people" those are not offsetting things. "Any two people" includes incest, pedophilia, and a number of other disapproved practices. "Any two people" and "any two consensual adults, regardless of gender" are not the same thing.

Anyone that has ever taken even a basic methods course (or has a modicum of common sense) can see that this is just as flawed as those in the article claim the gallup poll was.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

This seems to be fairly typical. Two thirds are in favor of one thing, in this case the time-honored definition of marriage as a contract between a man and a woman, but all the media hype is on the opposite side of the issue. I no longer listen to or watch our big corporate media outlets.

dustman
Nampa, ID

The hardest thing about this is getting people on board with the same religious beliefs. It kind of contradicts the idea of freedom of religion, when having no religion is just as protected.

It is equally difficult to say two people that love each other cannot enjoy the same legal protections as others based on their sex and/or sexual orientation.

I'm glad my wife and kid are the beneficiaries of my hard work. I love them, we take care of each other, and it should be so. It is difficult that a same sex couple cannot enjoy those protections and assurances also, especially when they love each other.

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