Please kill the bill and do it now! We cannot afford another spending bill from
It is true you should never ramp down spending during a recession but it should
not be the government that does the spending. Government should lower taxes and
cut the its size in half and allow its citezens more of their own money to
spend. In other words have more faith in the american people. That is the only
true way to stimulate the economy.
This bill is not, was not, and never will be about jobs. It is about class
warfare. Why do we need a jobs bill anyway? Obama's multi-trillion dollar
stimulus program was going to create millions of "shovel ready" job,
remember?Oh, wait. That's right. I forgot. The stimulus program was a
total failure. All it created was a couple trillion dollars more debt. And this
bill is no different, just smaller in scale. And a surcharge on
"millionaires" won't fix anything either. There aren't enough of them
and they don't make enough money to even dent the deficit.
"Senate Republicans likely to kill Obama jobs bill." In other news
water is wet and the sky is blue. It doesn't matter what's in the bill. It
doesn't matter if he gave the republicans exactly what they wanted. During the
debt ceiling debate Speaker Boehner actually said that he got 98% of what he
wanted. They will still fight it no matter what, for political reasons. If the
bill were to pass and actually work, that would make Obama look good and help
him in the upcoming election. They can't have that. This is why the
republicans have offered an outdated version of it as an ammendment on the
Chinese anti-currency manipulation bill. They politically can't afford to sit
on it, but they can't let it pass either, just in case it works.
Deseret news could you use a different word.
It's not the President's bill the Republican's want to kill, its Obama's
presidency. And they are more than willing to sacrifice the country's economic
recovery to do it. It's a shame that the Republican party repeatedly performs
as a wholly owned franchise of Wall Street. But Republican obstructionism is now
well understood and recognized by the 10's of thousands of thoughtful people now
demonstrating around the country for fundamental economic fairness.The sleeping electorate is finally waking, and many bought and paid for
politicians in both parties are going to pay a big price for being in bed with
Wall Street and big wealthy corporations. If lowering taxes were the solution
reader1234, the Bush years would have seen a wonderful economy. Instead we got
a economic crash that happened on Bush's watch that we still suffer from today.
It's not a jobs bill, it's a stimulus spending bill, and it's not meant to be
passed. Its purpose is to give Obama someone to blame.This stimulus
would be as big a failure as those preceding (both Bush's and Obamas). Democrat
senators won't vote for it either -- their constituents are watching.
Oh Please! It is not a jobs bill, it is money laundering for the unions!
This is a terribly misleading headline. Last time I checked, the Democrats still
hold the majority in the Senate. Yes, the Republicans will vote against this
class warfare/state welfare bill, as they should, in order to represent their
constituents. But it will be crossover Democrat votes and Joe Lieberman that
will, in the end, kill the bill. Check the accuracy of your headline instead of
playing the mindless mainstream-media mantra.
There is no bill to be passed. Reid will not allow a vote on a "jobs"
bill. The government cannot "stimulate" the economy with spending
money for construction, firemen, etc. Every public sector job it makes costs 2
in the private sector. Less red tap, smaller bureaucracy, tax cuts these can
help. The "jobs" bill will hurt the economy not help it.
Wow. A lot of y'all watch Fox News to the exclusion of all others, don't
ya'?Senate and House Republicans are willing to let tax breaks for
lower and middle class expire, but Bush's tax breaks for the wealthy are
untouchable? C'mon, why are so many of you shills for bought-n-paid-for
politicians?If you only look at one side, you don't see the whole
Oh look. More obstruction. *Republicans block small
business lending bill' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews -
07/29/10 'The bill would create a $30 billion government fund to
help community banks increase lending to small businesses...'
*'Republicans bail on budget talks, blame Democrats' - By David Espo - AP -
Published by DSNews - 06/23/11 The post's thus far have claimed this
is another failed stimulus... and fail to recongize that George W.
Bush started stimulus spending for the economy he doulbed the national debt
on... and then claim HIS stimulus was 'successful.' You
can't claim the same thing your doing is 'not' working when someone does the
exact same thing. The Republican party continues to put party and
millionares, before country.
Republicans criticize Obama when he doesn't present his own plans and when he
presents his own plans. We all know what the Republicans are about.
Gridlock.Obama defeat. Forget jobs. They've not addressed
jobs since the 2010 election.
I am anxious to see what will happen to the next President the first time he
tries to get HIS bill passed. Perhaps a touch of obstruction from
Democrats? It probably won't be pretty. Lots of paybacks?
Leading Democratic figures, including party fund-raisers and a top ally of
President Obama, are embracing the spread of the anti-Wall Street protests in a
clear sign that members of the Democratic establishment see the movement as a
way to align disenchanted Americans with their party.The Democratic
Congressional Campaign Committee, the party's powerful House fund-raising arm,
is circulating a petition seeking 100,000 party supporters to declare that
"I stand with the Occupy Wall Street protests."The Center
for American Progress, a liberal organization run by John D. Podesta, who helped
lead Mr. Obama's 2008 transition, credits the protests with tapping into pent-up
anger over a political system that it says rewards the rich over the working
class - a populist theme now being emphasized by the White House and the party.
The center has encouraged and sought to help coordinate protests in different
cities."These movements have the potential to reignite the
progressive spark needed to address some of the nation's biggest problems like
the minority of Senate Republicans likely to kill Obama jobs bill.It's time to take back America for the middle-class.Crash Wall
Street 10/12/2011 Wednesday.My truthful views.
BO is finding it difficult to lead when he doesn't have a super majority in the
house and senate as he did for the first 2 years and he got EVERYTHING he
wanted. BO isn't able to negotiate as Bill Clinton did with Newt Gingrich.
Instead BO has taken a hard left turn and is attempting to use everything from
class warfare to scaring seniors to ram through his agenda..but thankfully there
is some checks and balances in congress now thanks to the 2010 landslide for the
GOP. Keep in mind that not even all democrats are on board with BO on this tax
and spend bill so this isn't just the GOP that oppose it.
'Obama's multi-trillion dollar stimulus program was going to create millions of
"shovel ready" job, remember?' - NotBuyingIt | 8:17 a.m. Oct. 11, 2011
*Bush signs $700 billion bailout bill AP Published by Denver Post
By Tom Raum 10/03/08 WASHINGTON President Bush quickly signed
into law a far-reaching $700 billion bill to bail out the nation's tottering
financial industry, calling it "essential to helping America's
economy" weather the storm. *'Bush signs stimulus bill; rebate
checks expected in May' - CNN - 02/13/08 'President Bush on
Wednesday signed the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, calling it a "booster
shot" for the American economy.' If you 'don't' like Obama for
continuing the stimulus... then why vote Republican, when they
STARTED the stimulus?
Fine, kill the jobs bill.But if all you have to offer is another
bout of lower taxes and less regulation, we have all ALSO seen that before.And, it does not appear to have worked either.You criticize
Obama for doing the same thing and expecting different results.How
is the GOP plan any different from the policies in place when the economy first
tanked?I am open to other options, but I am not seeing anything new
from either party.
'Perhaps a touch of obstruction from Democrats? It probably won't be pretty.
Lots of paybacks?' - no fit in SG | 9:21 a.m. Oct. 11, 2011 You
don't have to guess and present it as fact SG. We can look at
history for a glimps into what can happen in the future. *'The Rise
Of Cloture: How GOP Filibuster Threats Have Changed The Senate' - Ben Frumin and
Jason Reif - Talking Points Memo - 01/27/10 'When Democrats
reclaimed the Senate majority in the 2006 midterm elections, cloture filings
shot up from 68 in 2005-2006 (From Dems) to a record 139 in 2007-2008.' (From
Republicans) So, that 'payback' you claim Dems are going to do? Is less than HALF of the filibusters Republicans have factually DONE
once out of power. Blocking: Unemployment
Disaster relief and now, Jobs to the American public. The
Republican party continues to put PARTY...before COUNTRY.
Mike in Texas @ 8:41 I guess you didn't hear about the total failure
of the "stimulus" program? This is just more of the same: spend,
spend, spend; with a little tax, tax, tax added in for good measure. The
Republicans don't have to sabotage Obama's presidency;he has done a fine
job all by himself. He admitted so himself just last week. Obama is doomed to
fail because his policies, philosophies and agendas are wrong. The government
CANNOT tax and spend our country into prosperity.
Truth be told Democrats in the Senate aren't behind Obama's plan. Leave it to
the AP to mislead the public in their reporting.Also, can anyone
show me where it is written that POTUS and Congress have the responsibility of
creating/providing jobs?@Truthseeker: can you tell me when the last
budget bill was passed by the Democratic-controlled Senate?Lines are
being defined, drawn and stood up for. I applaud the Repubs for finally stopping
the illegal spending by the Left. Thanks to the Tea Party for making the Repubs
have a backbone about standing up for what is right and Constitutional
principles.I'm grateful that Repubs are not allowing fool-hardy
bills to pass. I'm glad they are defeating the Commie agenda of Obama. As for
jobs, I remember Obama's promises each and every year in office to focus on jobs
like a laser. Took him a few years to get around to putting his own plan in
place.And, I recall your Dear Leader admitting that there really
weren't any shovel-ready jobs. But boy, the unions were sure bailed out, weren't
they?Stand strong and firm Repubs!
You have to give President Obama credit--he's trying to do something. It's just
that his limited experience limits his ideas to tax and spend.
A new report from the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations finds that
the 2004 repatriation tax holiday was a failed tax policy that cost the U.S.
$3.3 billion over 10 years and led to U.S. companies directing more funds
offshore.The 15 companies that benefited the most from a 2004 tax
break for the return of their overseas profits cut more than 20,000 net jobs and
decreased the pace of their research spending.
Brother Chuck @ 9:23It is the hardcore, politically correct, liberal
left who is the enemy of the middle class, and Barack Obama is their poster
child. The have been jack-hammering away at the foundations of the middle class
for the last 45 years: traditional families, traditional marriage, traditional
values, hard work, free enterprise, self-sufficiency, faith, etc. etc. etc.
"BO isn't able to negotiate as Bill Clinton did with Newt Gingrich"Is that a Clinton compliment? Wow, you guys sure bashed him
relentlessly when he was in office.Negotiations = compromise.A foreign concept in today's congress.
@NotbuyingitThe stimulus created over a million jobs and cost 700
billion not 0 and not adding trillions to the debt. I remember when
Boehner said his top three priorities were jobs, jobs, jobs. Apparently his top
three are, obstruct, obstruct, abortion bills.
So many...Bush did it too...comments.There was a reason the
Republicans took such a drubbing in the 2008 elections.Many
Republicans, including me, felt letdown. So...Stop setting up the
strawmen and lets look at what the current administration is doing. Stop
blaming the past president and congress and start holding the current president
and congress accountable.In my mind, the analogy goes like
this...The old administration started driving the train towards a
cliff. The current administration hopped in and hit the throttle.We
need our leaders to get in, take control of the train, and steer us away from
This is a flat out lie. The Democrats control the Senate. It is by their hands
that any bill dies.
'I remember when Boehner said his top three priorities were jobs, jobs, jobs.' -
atl134 | 9:49 a.m. Oct. 11, 2011 Well, conservatives sure don't!
:) *John Boehner: If GOP Cuts Cause Federal Job Losses...'So Be It'
- Huffington Post - 02/15/11 *'Republicans bail on budget talks,
blame Democrats' - By David Espo - AP - Published by DSNews - 06/23/11 And...today. 'Senate Republicans likely to kill Obama jobs plan'
- Title I guess when Republicans were saying 'jobs, jobs, jobs' they
MEANT 'tax breaks, tax breaks, tax breaks'... for the
Re: NotBuyingIt - 9:42 a.m. MIDVALE, UT Brother Chuck @ 9:23It is the hardcore, politically correct, liberal left who is the enemy of the
middle class.....Reply: Ummmmmmmmm, who was it then that crashed
America back in 2008, when we lost everything we saved for the past 45 years, in
two weeks, and, who got filthy rich off of it to?. Not the liberal's. It was the
GOP, Banks and Wall Street, GOPs Homeland. Why would the Republicans (poster
good ole boyz in da hood for the Koch brother's and Wall Street only), be likely
to kill Obama jobs bill?. Attaching misleading labels to legislation is a
well-worn tactic in Washington. These RINO Conservatives got rid of most of the
estate tax after labeling it a "death tax," as though it taxed death
instead of multimillion-dollar fortunes. President Barack Obama is appealing to
voters to support his nearly $450 billion jobs bill and tell their elected
representatives about it. With the economy listless and unemployment stuck
above nine per cent, we need jobs. Republican'ts will be risking another
recession if they block President Barack Obama's jobs bill. WHY would
Republican'ts want to take that risk?.
No one on the conservative side has ever answered the question: "What kind
of mess would we be in right now if we had not had the Obama stimulus?"
Pagan - The Republicans are trying to prevent Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy
Pelosi from destroying America and turning us into a full-blown welfare state,
crippled by debt and entitlement. We are now $15,000,000,000,000 in debt (and
growing by about $5 billion A DAY!)and Obama's only solution is to spend even
more money that we do not have. And what do we have to show for all that
spending that liberals want us to believe is the solution to all of our
problems? 10% unemployment; economic recession/depression; social problems
coming out of our ears; 15,000,000+ illegal immigrants;, etc. etc. etc. Maybe
MORE goverment is NOT the answer?
I know lets try tax cuts for the wealthy. They are the job creators and that
should solve the problem. Oh wait we tried that and that didn't work either
(Bush tax cuts). How about a new plan from the republicans. They claim the
democrats just try the same ideas that don't work. What idea have the
republicans proposed that has worked in the past?
Maple Don; You should have paid attention during civics class'es.
can the senate read the bill before they vote on it? another rush job and obama
crisis. he is a true magician. keep others eyes somewhere else.
DNcutting and pasting doesn't cut it. Few read the posts but they take up
much of the postings. maybe you could just put links to all media sites and we
can just link into those sites and disregard reading your articles. o to go.
can't take another four years.
Re: no fit in SG | 9:21 a.m. Oct. 11, 2011 "I am anxious to see what
will happen to the next President the first time he tries to get HIS bill
passed"So you are agreeing that Obama won't be re-elected? The
next president will be smart enough to ask Democratic leaders to join him at the
front of the bus. One sign of good leader is that he is able to work with the
Re: PaganAnother Strawman...Enjoy knocking him down.Just
can't get past Bush can you...We can play the party blame game all
day long...both are to blame.Not only that...We are to blame.Collectively, We lived beyond our means.Collectively, We
bought into the entitlement mentality.Collectively, We forgot who we
were and how we got here.Collectively, We continue to elect those
who may not be fit for office.Get off your high horse and go look in
The dirty little secret Obama isn't talking about is the fact that the
Republicans were ready to vote on his jobs bill knowing that the Senate
Democrats up for election in 2012 wouldn't vote for it as initially written.
Replace the words "Jobs Bill" in the headline of this title with the
words "Bill of Any Kind" and you have perfectly described the
Republicans committment to helping America get out of the mess they created
under George W. Bush.It's the perfect crime.First, you
oversee the economy as it turns into a Depression. Second, you do everything in
your power to obstruct any efforts to actually fix the Depression. And no,
going back to the same old policies that put us in the Depression is not
"fixing" anything. Finally, you blame the Democrats for not fixing
the Depression you started fast enough.Yeah, I'm going to vote these
guys back in to power.Been there, done that. They put this country
so far down the garbage shoot, we're still trying to get out. And
their only solution is "lower taxes" and "deregualte." You
know, the exact senarios that helped put us in this Depression. They didn't
work before, why on Earth would they work this time around?
I love the sound bites from you so called conservatives. Class warfare,Simulus
bill not a jobs bill. The republican agenda is to defeat Obama no matter what
the cost to the rest of america. The Gop has and will do NOTHING to help this
country recover from The GOP's misguided policies and the GOP's destroying of
our balanced budget and surpluss in 2000. Some of you people just dont get it.
Pull your head out of the sand (or wherever else it might be)
NotbyingitYou need to do some research and quit relying on Fox News.
The "Stimulus" package has helped in many states. In some states
where political leaders have railed against it, there have been projects
initiated and completed that have helped. Has it been enough? Obviously, no
way, but Republican propaganda has convinced many having a predilection to be so
convinced, that it has been a failure. The truth is that it probably kept us
out of a full blown depression. Do more independent research and then you might
TO "atl134 | 9:49 a.m." the stimulus didn't create nearly that many
jobs. According to the Weekly Standard's article "Obamas Economists:
Stimulus Has Cost $278,000 per Job", the Obama administration is admitting
to the cost of each job that was created by the stimulus. Apparently it costs
the government $278,000 to create 1 job. That is a losing proposal.The CATO instutite's article "The 'Stimulus' Actually Raised
Unemployment" shows how unemployment has risen as a result of the stimulus.
They use CBO numbers to show how very little of the stimulus money actually
went to jobs programs, and how most of it went to social welfare programs that
don't encourage job growth.To "Pagen | 11:00 a.m." lets
remind you of what your beloved Democrats are doing with Obama's bill.From the DN "Reid blocks vote on Obama jobs bill after Senate Republicans
try to push bill forward"Obama's jobs bill was so good that
last Wednesday we read the article "Senate Democrats rewrite Obama's jobs
bill" Apparently the Democrats think it is full of garbage too.Here is the counter to your last jab, from NY Post "US did find Iraq
I haven't seen a jobs bill. All I'm aware of is a "aid to
unions" bill.We already did that!
clueless libs,News flash........your boy's senate demos aren't
passing the jobs bill. you might want to know the facts before making uneducated
At least FOUR DEMOCRATS in the Senate are not going to vote for
"Obama's" job bill......How is that the Republicans killing the bill?
I am impressed that Democrats can think for themselves and don't have to follow
blindly along like the Republicans.What original idea do the
republicans have. More tax cuts for the wealthy? Start two more wars? That is
what got us into this mess.
@Pagan,You complain about the tax breaks to the wealthy, but have
you taken a look at the unemployment rate over the past 2 years?2010
- unemployment remains around 9.5% on the year (with a couple of months as the
exception)End of 2010 - unemployment at 9.8%Dec 17, 2010 -
Bush tax cuts extendedJan 2011 - 9.0%Feb 2011 - 8.9%The
unemployment rate has hovered around 9.0% all year.What could have
happened in December to lower the unemployment rate so?
NotBuyingIt:"...It is the hardcore, politically correct,
liberal left who is the enemy...and Barack Obama is their poster child. The have
been jack-hammering away at the foundations of the middle class for the last 45
years: traditional families, traditional marriage, traditional values, hard
work, free enterprise, self-sufficiency, faith, etc. etc. etc....".People who don't "buy" your opinion are the enemy?Clergy, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, Firefighters, Police Officers, Neighbors,
Business Owners, Military Personel, who don't buy your opinion, are the
enemy?Clergy, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, Firefighters, Police
Officers, Neighbors, Business Owners, Military Personel, who don't buy your
opinion, know nothing about hard work or free enterprise or self-sufficiency?Let us know how Republican Newt Gingrich works out for you as your
poster "boy" for traditional families, marriage, values and faith.
Republicans didn't need to "kill" this bill. Obama's own Senate
Democrats killed it.... He can't even get a majority of his own Senate Democrats
to committ to supporting it!!Misleading headline... always casting
Republicans as the villains...But in any case, thank goodness
someone is killing this multi=billion payoff to the NEA and teachers
unions....and other political payoffs Obama loaded into the bill.
HEY PAGAN:The Democrats control the Senate.....IF the FOUR DEMOCRATS would
vote for the bill it would pass....The Republicans don't have the
majority.....so the Democrats are Killing the bill....not the Republicans.
re:RedShirt#1 CATO article misrepresents the Fed's report:"Though participants agreed there was considerable slack in resource
utilization, their judgments about the degree of slack varied. The several
extensions of emergency unemployment insurance benefits appeared to have raised
the MEASURED unemployment rate, relative to levels recorded in past downturns,
by encouraging some who have lost their jobs to remain in the labor
force."In order for someone to collect unemployment they need
to be looking for a job. The extension of the unemployment benefits encouraged
some to keep looking for a job rather than move into the category of
"discouraged" job seekers who have given up hope. The Stimulus didn't
put more people out of work. The CBO and other economists calculated the
Stimulus created or saved 1.2-3 million jobs. Furthermore, according to
economists, unemployment payments (and food stamps) are more stimulative to the
economy than many tax cuts. #2 Weekly Standard's claim:Moodys
chief economist Mark Zandi says the Weekly Standard misinterpreted the data.
Politifact rated the claim false. The fact that you cling to the
Iraq WMD claim illustrates your inability to deal with the facts.
More than half of Republicans say wealthier Americans should pay more in taxes
to bring down the federal budget deficit.Fifty-three percent of
self-identified Republicans back an increase in taxes on households making more
than $250,000, a sentiment at odds with the partys presidential candidates.More than two-thirds of all Americans back higher taxes on the rich and
even larger numbers think Medicare and Social Security benefits should be left
alone, according to a Bloomberg-Washington Post national poll conducted Oct.
6-9.More than 8 out of 10 Americans say the middle class will have
to make financial sacrifices to cut the deficit even as the public strongly
opposes higher taxes on middle-income families.
To "Wastintime | 2:40 p.m." so what you are saying is that we should
take the Politifact's figure of $185,000/job?If you bothered to read
the Politifact article, they don't have a problem with the numbers. Had the
original article stated that the jobs cost between $185,000 and $278,000, that
is trivial. The interesting thing is that Politifact harps on little
inconsequential things to make it appear false.The fact that is
probably the most important is how much each job cost, and that, according to
Politifact and Mark Zandi is between $185,000 adn $278,000.Don't you
think that spending $185,000 to $278,000 per job is excessive?While
you are thinking about that, tell us, how does Obama measure a job saved? (So
far, nobody knows this.)I think that the fact that the BBC, NY Post,
CNN, News Max, USA Today, Wired, MSNBC, Washington Post, Worldnet Daily, and CBS
News have all reported on WMD's being found in Iraq just go to show that you can
show a liberal the truth, but they still won't believe it.
Rutland vs medfield"watch fox news too much?" When what
you said makes no sence. You said the repubs would let the bush tax cuts expire
on the poor and not the rich. But if you had thought about that for a moment,
you would have realized that the poor don't pay any federal income taxes in the
first place. They are like Obamas pet large corporation, GE, they pay no taxes.
I found the headline typically liberal bias... the Democrats control the Senate.
They can pass anything they want if they all vote for it. I think it will
fail to pass and that it will be bi-partisian.
I agree with Wayne Rout. It has been reported for several days now that Senator
Harry Reed is holding the bill and not letting it come for a vote because he
does not have the democratic votes and wants to avoid that embarrassment.
If all the democrats vote for it, it will pass - right?Even the
democrats are smart enough to know this is DOA.
@Pagan,If you are looking for some kind of panacea that will take
care of the unemployment problem in one fell swoop, you won't find it anywhere.
Given the housing bubble (you can look to administrations before Bush for an
explanation of why this bubble occurred), economic hardship was inevitable. I
don't believe anyone has ever claimed that the Bush tax cuts (or any other
measure) are a powerful enough tool to prevent all job loss in an economic
crisis. Why do you expect as much?What the cuts have done is create
jobs. Have they created enough jobs to lower the unemployment rate back to
where it was before the housing bubble burst? Nope. However, BLS data
indicates they have contributed to lowering the unemployment rate.If
you believe that any measure is a failure simply because it has not solved the
entirety of our economic problems, then I wish you the best as you wait for
something that does not exist. Not even the President would be silly enough to
expect something like that.
truthseeker 9:19If we can defeat Obama and his blasted spending
bills, we will see jobs start to come back. If we do as you want, and keep
Obama and his spending, the continuance of this jobs nightmare will stay with us
for a longer period of time.
Re:RedShirtIraq Study Group findings:Saddam ended his nuclear
program in 1991. ISG found no evidence of concerted efforts to restart the
program, and Iraqs ability to reconstitute a nuclear weapons program
progressively decayed after 1991.Iraq destroyed its chemical weapons
stockpile in 1991, and only a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions
were discovered by the ISG.Saddam's regime abandoned its biological
weapons program and its ambition to obtain advanced biological weapons in 1995.
While it could have re-established an elementary BW program within weeks, ISG
discovered no indications it was pursuing such a course.The
yellowcake removed from Iraq in 2008 was material that had long since been
identified, documented, and stored in sealed containers under the supervision of
U.N. inspectors. It was not a "secret" cache that was recently
"discovered" by the U.S, and the yellowcake had not been purchased by
Iraq in the years immediately preceding the 2003 invasion. The uranium was the
remnants of decades-old nuclear reactor projects that had put out of commission
many years earlier and was not weapons grade.
Still waiting for any bleeding heart Liberal to show in the Constitution where
it states the POTUS and/or Congress are in charge of creating jobs?It's amazing at how many Libs on these pages still cling to the failed
policies of Obama. I just read from Gallup that even Blacks are starting to get
the message that Obama is a lousy POTUS and has no clue what he is doing.Good to see that the Kool-Aid is finally running out!
The AP needs to be honest, the Dems don't have enough votes to pass this bill,
so it is ultimately the Dems who are killing it. Leave to the Pagan to attempt
to spin this against Republicans. Obama is putting ideology before country.
pagan - "That's a change of tone!You seem very
upset when presented with the fact that the Republican party had the House,
Senate and Presidency from 2001-2006...then shared power in:
2006-2008.Democrat control in 2008-2010...then shared
power again, with the Republican party gaining the House in 2010.And
it's the 'Dem's fault?'"Change of tone????I am
re-reading my posts and it seems that I cannot find the quotes or thoughts you
attribute to me... and you even put 'Dem's fault?' in quotes...hmmm...More strawmen eh? Methinks you are having conversations with yourself.
To "Wastintime | 8:08 p.m." ok, here are all of the news stories
containing references to chemical weapons that were found:"Troops 'foil Iraq nerve gas bid'" BBC July 2, 2004"US did find Iraq WMD" NY Post October 25, 2010"Iraqi Nerve Gas, WMD Find Blows Away Pundits" Newsmax May 17,
2004"WikiLeaks Show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq With Surprising
Results" Wired October 23, 2010"Iraq mortar shells contain
blister agent" USA Today, Jauary 10, 2004"Bomb said to
holddeadly sarin gas explodes in Iraq" MSNBC May 17, 2004"Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq" Fox New May 17,
2004"Warheads with mustard, sarin gas found by Polish troops in
Iraq: Rumsfeld" Spacewar, July 1, 2004"Deadly Nerve Agent
Sarin Is Found in Roadside Bomb" Washington Post, May 18, 2004"Hundreds of WMDs discovered in Iraq" WorldNetDaily June 21, 2006There you go, 10 separate reports that there were WMD's in Iraq.