Since you didn't post my last one, the best defense is a good offense. By the
way, Tea Partyers, Ronald Reagan was a flip flopper.
I digress..."Anyone who comes to know the man Mormon, through
the reading and pondering of his words, anyone who reads this precious trove of
history which was assembled and preserved in large measure by him, will come to
know that Mormon is not a word of disrepute, but that it represents the greatest
goodthat good which is of God. It was the modern translator of this ancient
record who declared that through reading it a man would come closer to God than
through the reading of any other book". Mormon Should Mean, "More
Good", Pres Gordon B. Hinckley LDS Ensign Oct. 1990.I was under
the impression that the American civil rights movement was progressively
inclusive, and yet almost 6 decades later we are witnessing the theological
spinelessness of those who are intellectually apathetic to the principles that
the United States was founded upon and those who would fight to the death
protecting these sacred principles, and they are guilty of exposing the tragic
contradiction that in my estimation disqualifies them to be the
commander-in-chief of this ever increasing temporal/spiritual military.
ClarkKent: While I agree the Deseret News covers this topic more than it is
covered nationally, I disagree that this paper is the only one covering this
issue. I have read articles about Romney and his religion on every major
newspaper. Especially since this last weekend.
@A1994,"To say that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints DON'T believe in Christ and their savior is ridiculous,
particularly when the name of the church has his name in it"They definitely believe in Christ. However, using it in the name of the
Church is a double bladed sword. Christ wasn't always in the church name ...
there were several changes to the name until it was finalized. Bringing Christ
into the church name was done to help avoid what's happening now ... people
thinking LDS isn't Christian. I think LDS is definitely Christian,
although a side-shoot of it. Christ is only in its name to defend that though.
Personally, I don't think they would have minded calling the church something
along the lines of Joseph Smith or BYU if it wasn't for all the negative flack
they received and how hard they've tried to make LDS more Christian-like and
Should people not point out the biased and heavy rhetoric the some who have left
the LDS church will not leave it alone.The DN, like any newspaper
can have its own policies.
I'm not offended as a Mormon. I'm offended as one who hates to see people try
to insult other people's intelligence. I honestly don't care what
some 'pastor' down in Texas thinks about my religion. The problem I have is
when ignorance is given a place of prominence. To say that members of the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints DON'T believe in Christ and their
savior is ridiculous, particularly when the name of the church has his name in
it. As a Mormon, I really don't care what the religion the
President chooses to follow as long as it promotes liberty and law. The LDS
church does that along with most churches.
@The Vanka | 5:48 p.m. Oct. 10, 2011 You have valid points, I will
not disagree because even I see that sometimes and I am an active Mormon, but
don't think that all Mormons are that way either. Those type are a minority.
Most of us are good abiding citizens who participate in the political process
voting for our ideas and principles. Like any political process, the majority is
going to rule. I have many friends who are non-LDS and I never try to force my
way of living or thinking on them. I once lived in New York City. I did not like
their liberal ways, I did not like the crowded city, I did not like the
looseness of their ways, it was not conducive to my way of living so, I moved
here to Utah. It is as simple as that. If you choose to live in Utah, then
unfortunately you are going to run into what you are describing in your blog.
When the Mormons become the minority then I am sure some things will change. It
is the same for any religion, most just choose to ignore it.
Fearmongering and misinformation breeds hatred. Meanwhile, Mormons that live
their religion quietly and without fanfare go about doing good while a new world
of enamored believers join their ranks. Doesn't sound like much of a cult to me.
Sounds more like people trying to live the Golden Rule.
The reason why Bachmann and Cain and other GOP candidates are evading the
question is they are hiding their true feelings.Where there is smoke
there is fire, they are affiliated with pastors who have publicly stated the LDS
Church is a cult.Stating merely that the LDS Church is "not a
cult" is hardly a rebuke on allowing this kind of poisonous rhetoric to
enter into this political race but the problem here is that they want this to
drag down Romney and Huntsman or else they would denounce this kind of attack
It should be obvious to every reader that the DN is strongly anti-Mormon because
they allow people like "Pagan" to post comments.
I don't know of one Mormon that really cares personally what some evangelicals
think of us. We just don't like misrepresentation and prefer to set the record
straight as we see it.
Geez Vanka, you seem as judgmental against Mormons as you claim they are against
others...just calling it like I see it.
Kami,Thank you. Those of us who are not Mormons are tired of it,
too!We are tired of being accused of "anti-Mormon
hate-speech" if we disagree with the Church or one of its prominent
members.We are tired of being told we are "insincere" and
lacking in "real intent" when we don't get the same
("right") answer to Moroni's challenge.We are tired of
being left out of the neighborhood cliques because we aren't allowed to serve in
quorum presidencies and bishoprics with all the Mormons and their buddies.We are tired of hearing our children cry because the Mormon kids are
"choosing their friends carefully" by NOT choosing to be friends with
the kids whose father is an atheist.We are tired of seeing politics
in Utah manipulated and controlled behind the scenes, and the voting bloc of
Mormons determining how life will be for everybody in this state - especially on
Sundays when I can't even get a bottle of cooking wine to use making dinner.We are tired of being invisible in this state. We are tired of nobody
listening when we say we are tired. We are tired of being treated like enemies.
When are so many LDS going to stop looking for reasons to be victims? This is
the LDS culture that I chose to ignore that I spoke about in another post. I am
active LDS, but I am so sick and tired of some mormons finding reasons to be
victimes! Offense is a choice; stop making it. Do you turn over every stone you
encounter so that you can continue to feel victimized by society at large? I am
so tired of this!
Its some mormons and the mormon owned press that are making a mountain out of a
molehill here. Why should ANY candidate be expected to make any statement
whatsoever about another candidate's religion -- yet the DN choses to use the
word "EVADE" in the title of the article. I suppose Romney is EVADING
making statements about all other candidates' religious affiliations?
This is something that all the other campaigns are hoping they can use against
Got to love Ron Paul. He may be for legalizing marijuana, which I'm not against
while many conservatives are, but he's also for a lot of other logical things
like civility, peace, and freedom. Some of the 'questionable' things he
recommends may just work out differently than many think. Many thing
legalizing drugs (or some of them) is an absolute outrage that will ruin this
country. Some can say that legalizing them makes it less viable to make a
living selling drugs illegally on the streets, resulting in less kids in gangs
and on the streets AND more tax revenue from it's legal use. Just a theory but
*'Polls: Mormonism won't hurt Mitt Romney like Perry might' - By Hal Boyd,
Deseret News - 09/06/11 Oh. I apologize.
Should people not point out the heavy partisan rhetoric of the Deseret News when
it comes to covering Mitt Romney? -Perception of Mitt Romney
election to presidency would be similar to that of John F. Kennedy, scholar says
-Coverage of Mormonism in campaigns sometimes unfair to evangelicals
too-Fox News host: Romney not Christian-Jon Huntsman Jr. stands by
his Mormon religion-Huffington Post: Pawlenty video aimed at Mormon faith
of Romney and Huntsman-Mormon official challenges 'cult' designation-The Economist and other media consider why Mormonism carries agitation among
many-LDS reporter who worked on Newsweek's 'Mormon Moment' story defends
controversial cover-Controversial Mormon Newsweek sold out-'Mormons
Rock!' says Newsweek cover story about LDS Church, Mitt Romney-Huntsman
says his Mormon church membership is 'tough to define'-How defining were
Jon Huntsman's comments on his Mormonism?-'I am Mormon,' Huntsman tells
'Good Morning America'-Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. compete in Mormon
primary-Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. mull Mormon dilemma-Poll:
Mormon church membership negative for Huntsman, Romney-Romney's religion
unknown to most
Not all candidates have dodged the issue like Cain and Bachmann. Give some
credit to Ron Paul, who defended Romney on the issue, and was even more explicit
4 years ago when the issue was brought up in the campaign:"The
recent attacks and insinuations, both direct and subtle, that Gov. Romney may be
less fit to serve as president of our United States because of his faith fly in
the face of everything America stands for. Gov. Romney should be judged fairly,
on his record and his character, not on the church he attends.-Ron Paul
'Bachmann, Cain evade Mormon questions as race evolves' - Title
Please... *'Michele Bachmann's pastor on Mormonism' - By Jamshid
Ghazi Askar - DSNews - 09/06/11 *'President Obama's purported
'weird'-Mormon strategy against Mitt Romney will backfire, pundits say' - By Hal
Boyd, Deseret News - 08/10/11 with Bachmann & Obama saying
nothing about Romney's faith... The Deseret News has made more of an
issue about Romney's faith, than his oppenents.