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Occupy Wall Street
One protester told a reporter she was prepared to stay for "as long as it takes." Given that no one has any idea what the group's stated objective is, that could take awhile.

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A local paper blared on its front page that the Salt Lake march drew hundreds, which sounds so much better than dozens.

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Once again Jay shows his bias....

1. Hellooooo, - look at the picture placed with the article "End Corporate Welfare" -- Seems like a pretty clear objective to me. But I guess Tea Partiers can't tell the difference between the "Poor, Needy & Elderly -- Welfare" and "Coprporate Welfare".

2. The "other" Newspaper was correct. I was there -- there was about 300 starting at the State Capital....I have pictures to prove it.
I assume someone is still be holding out on Obama's Birth Certificate isn't real.
Sorry you disagree with reality, but it just under-scores the bias.

"Corporate welfare"? I assume they mean Solyndra.

How about we end the corporate welfare for George Soros.

KDave | 9:45 a.m. Oct. 10, 2011
Moab, UT
"Corporate welfare"? I assume they mean Solyndra.

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Yes, Solyndra lost $535 million.

But Big Oil makes $100 Billion is quarterly profits,
PLUS
gets another $25 BILLION [with a "B", i.e., 50 times more money than Solydrn lost- each and every year] from subsidezes.

Why it you guys continuely focus your GOP scriped pet complaints to scaled petty mistakes,
yet and completely ignore Big OIL?!

Reminds me of the fool who complained about the mote in someone else's eye, while foolishly ignoring the Beam in their own.

Yea! Power to the people.

It's good to see real Americans protesting.

Bill O'riley, when comparing the Tea Party and the Occupy protesters said the Occupy protesters were anarchist.

The Tea Party are the one's who wish to limit and eliminate government control.

The Occupy group want more and better regulation of business and the banks.

So which group is the anarchist?

Re:rok
Yes, let's raise Soros' taxes!
Instead of calling it the Buffet tax, you can call it the Soros tax.

I don't think this should be a Tea Party vs. Occupy Wall Street fight. They have some similar goals. As I understand it, both hate the idea of bailouts to big banks. There's a contingent in both groups fighting for an audit of the Federal Reserve. Why should we conservatives denigrate a movement that is about returning power to the people, and taking it out of the hands of special interests and big banks? One of the common refrains I hear from the Occupy Wall Street protesters is "we want to take the influence of big money out of politics". Who could disagree with that sentiment? Unfortunately, many conservatives seek only to mock these protesters. Now would be a great opportunity to form a coalition to once and for all put an end to the unholy alliance between big government and big corporations. I guess that's why I like Ron Paul so much. You can believe in small government and believe in an end to corporate welfare. It is possible to believe that the most important thing is individual rights, not the rights of corporations or the rights of governments.

Wrong, Jay. The Occupy Wall Streeters have a very clear objective -- to raise awareness of the downright criminal behavior of the investment banking industry in forcing us through a bubble cycle that is destroying our credit and our prosperity. We have no problem with people who get rich honestly and ethically -- we have a BIG problem with people who wreck the economy to enrich themselves.

On second thought here's what I want to know Jay Evensen, Deseret News, when Occupy Wall Street protesters marched in several cities last week, including Salt Lake City Utah, did you also do what Sen. Hatch did?. Hide under his desk, sipping tea, until they left?.

Wrong, David King.

This fight between the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street group is going on not only in America but in many of the worlds countries. It has been going on since there were groups of people. It is very probably true that all wars between nations or groups of people are economic wars.

Our own revolutionary war was about the profits to be made from the new nation.

The Tea Party business group wants to have more freedom in their commercial activities. The American government, in it's role of protecting the American people, stands in their way. Their objective is to remove the American government as an obstacle to their business.

The Occupy group wants a bigger piece of the pie. The trigger for their actions is the economic oppression of the businessmen as the businessmen fight and compete with each other for the rights to take from the people.

And it may be that there is another group of businessmen behind the Occupy group hoping for their turn at the helm.

@Ultra Bob
I'll concede that there may be some among the Tea Party driven by commercial interests, but it's unfair to identify that as the main interest of all members of the Tea Party, just as it would be unfair to say that all the "Occupy" protesters are only interested in a forced redistribution of wealth.

Not all economic oppression comes from a lack of government oversight. Some of it is government action. When a secret bank, the Federal Reserve, can print money out of thin air to be used in bailouts, some of it to foreign banks, as a recent limited audit has shown, that devalues our currency.

You seem to be implying that the only goal of the Tea Party is to eliminate regulations on business but you ignore the parts of the Tea Party interested in sound monetary policy, opposed to governments handouts to corporations, and the preservation of our dollar. If these two groups fight instead of seeking common ground, neither will accomplish much.

Why not recognize the similarities and work to change government together so more prosperity is available to individual Americans instead of big government and big business?

My judgment of the of the groups is mainly based on the signs that I could see. All the signs of the Tea Party were anti-government, to limit government and about monetary concerns. Then there the mission statement where they say they are opposed to government regulation of private enterprise. Further their actions in Congress seem very much anti-people and very much for the rich and powerful.

The signs of the Occupy group were mainly against business and the bad economic condition. Actually I didn't see a single sign about forced redistribution of wealth. but then, I didn't see all the signs.

I see the groups as diametrically opposed in their objectives. The Tea Party wants more freedom for commercial business interests which entails less freedom for non business people. The Occupy people want a better distribution of the wealth that they create.

One quote from either side, Occupy Wall Street or the Tea Party, does not embody every motivation for their efforts. Corporate welfare is the same as tax incentives passed by Democrat and Republican legislatures. Many were passed by Republicans and how many were repealed by the recent Democratic super majority in Congress? Revise the tax code in a sensible manner and stop the partisan holier than thou rhetoric.