Thanks Vai. I usually like your opinions and appreciate you explanations this
week which were true to form.
Sorry, I took too many words out to make my previous post fit into the 200 word
limit.Question 1 pertains to the advertisement of alcohol on ESPN
during byu games. Why do I have to see it when watching a byu game?The point is...has byu stood tall with ESPN to ensure Mormon standards are
observed in advertising during byu games or have they simply determined that
there are some things outside of their control and standards "be
damned" as Vai put it last week? Question 2 is goes a little
deeper into the same issue.Thanks for accepting my post, DN.
Vai, your efforts this week demonstrate the amount of good that can be
accomplished when opinion based accusations yield to meaningful dialog.
Clearly, you have learned a valuable lesson through this experience. An apology
this week, rather than a rationalization, is the higher road. Interesting
choice.The Sunday play issue was raised by byu faithful to explain
their exclusion from the Pac-12 and has gained momentum over the last year. It
is, however, a topic of byus choosing. Perhaps you could address a question on
a topic of my choosing... Question 1: Has byu engaged ESPN in any
way to limit or eliminate those advertisements during byu games? Question 2: Has any consideration been given to the fact that byu now has a
revenue stream from an organization that obtains its earnings from the
advertisement of alcoholic beverages and soft pornography (Go daddy)? Vai, in the spirit of your column this week, I am not really awed by
professional athletes especially those who make their hay using an NFL career
long since ended. Know what I mean? I appreciate the example you eventually
set in making an effort to understand both sides of an issue.
The School that represents Christ's Church here on earth does not need more
critics, it needs more champions, especially from former alumni. You, sir, are not acting like that champion.
What is Jerry Sloan doing running the Utah program....
Vai,keep calling a spade a spade.The Mormons here in
Utah need you to keep them on their toes and the rest of the clan need to be
shaken by you as well.Good work.
REALLY???Did I see a post dropping a "church title" and then
pointing the finger at Chris Hill?Hey, maybe I have a "title"
also, but do I REALLY use that to prove my point on a DNEWS blog?!?!? THAT is
hilarious :)BlueCougar - Come on. Think about it. What would President
HInckley & President Monson do!!!
AZ Dave - Vai does not need to check with anyone before he writes an opinion.
Just like you don't check with anyone before you write your opinion. I sure he
appreciates you attempting to be his boss and tell him what he should do.Go CougsGo ASU
Always a good day when I open the sports page for my theological studies and
testimony refresher. I need the box scores on why I am on earth and where am I
going and how to end the months biggest issue ..not the NBA lockout.. nope.. not
the baseball pennant races.. nope... but is it OK to watch a football game and
re-runs of conference or is it better in the churches eyes if we watch
conference and re-runs of the football game. I think that Vai's views
should be on the lifestyle pages and not in sports.
Vai, I enjoy and value the opportunity to read your opinion even when I disagree
with it. You provide thoughtful commentary from a unique perspective. You've
caused me to pause and think about some topics in a new way because of points
you have made. I have, on a given week, found your work inspirational, humorous,
thought provoking, and enlightening. Always I find it interesting. I hope you
are able to continue to write for the DN for a long time to come.
Hatred wrecks opinions and demotes them to prejudices. Such are the comments of
so many who hate the LDS church. And also either hate BYU or Utah. Nonsense to
let that emotion into the equation. I'm amazed at the double
standards that seek to destroy the LDS faith by demeaning and hatred, yet, those
same people would shrug their shoulders in Virginia if their Baptist friends
objected to Halloween as Satan worship and demanded it removed from the schools.
Let it be. Cool it on the hatred.
Hi Vai, It is your old stake president from the time you were serving in Sioux
Falls (Pres. Gardner). I really enjoy your column and your opinions on
everything from Pres Greenwood, your family, the Arizona Cardinals, the Cougars
and everything in between. Thanks for what you do. I really wanted to comment
about your column last week because it touched on a lot of nerves of a lot of
people. Because you took the time to contact Chris Hill, you deserve a lot of
credit. He should recognize that even tho he works for a state university that
much of his support comes from the LDS in the state and he should be more
sensitive to that. He should push a little harder to prevent the Pac-12 from
Sunday games and conference weekend conflicts. He should know that many LDS
leaders including President Hinckley and President Monson are graduates. He is
not being sensitive to the LDS supporters that help pay his salary and the
salaries of Kyle Whittingham and others. I have great respect for you and all
that you do for the Church in Philadelphia. Thanks for all that you do.
The Sabbath Day is one thing but I would like some serious response to this
question:Should I have made my son & I miss his little league
football game for the Saturday afternoon session of conference?What
would the difference be between that and the priesthood session?
I love all the ute "fans" being outraged and judgemental about Vai
People on this comment board are sounding much like the Jews during Jesus times.
All we do it point out the wrong in other people and judge rather than work on
ourselves. If I drank a beer with my friends/family at dinner, not one person
would hesitate to tell ke I was sinning. However, if we walked past a homeless
mother with 2 children begging for money to feed her kids, it wouldn't be
uncommon for all of us to ignore them and keep walking without offering any
help. I would guess god would be more disappointed in not helping hungry
children. We look past the mark and the day when we say all is well in Zion has
I stand by my comments last week sir!!!FIRST: I'll take this as a
repentance column...you've restored my faith in you!!! I really like MOST of
what you've written today.SECOND: (and I repeat) Please tell me
where in "Keep the Sabbath Day Holy" it differentiates between pro,
amateur, etc.... OH YEA!!! it's right next to the section on modesty EXCEPT for
proms, pageants, cheerleading, drill team or athletic practices!!! Or the dating
section UNLESS we're just hanging out AND it's the bishop's kid I'm with!!!Via....you should have stopped @ Pres. Packers talk and not tried to
differentiate the word "career." That type of rationalization is what
we do for modesty, dating, and everything else.Nice Work, however,
I'll keep reading!!!
"Sorry Cougs family comes first." Blasphemy Vai! You
must be a Mormon!CE Conklin/Coug
"We entered the Pac-12 as full-fledged members with all the privileges that
membership affords," Hill said.--I do not understand this comment by Dr.
Hill. Utah gets 0 payout from the PAC 12 this year EVERY other school gets
millions. Next year Utah only gets a 50% share of what the other scools get. How
is this "all privileges" ?
Nicely done, Vai. I'm surprised in reading the comments that some
people have taken anything religious as an attack on them. Qwest Perfected, for
example, seems to think that separation of church and state means "freedom
from religion" - as in if religion affects his/her life in any way - even
if LDS conference is on national TV - then it is out of hand. Vai
did a nice job in his article of pointing out that you can respect others'
beliefs while still maintaining your own. In so doing, the people of the United
States can maintain freedom of religion as well as separation of church and
state. Without this respect, either the religious freedoms or the separation of
church and state will be infringed upon.
Vai coincidentally didn't respond to those who brought up that BYU had sporting
events during Saturday conference.Football won't be played on
Sunday. College football knows not to compete with the NFL. Yes, other sports,
such as baseball, softball, and soccer may be played on Sunday.Vai,
I'm not sure why you bring up the Sunday thing, (since football won't be played
on Sunday), but failed to bring up BYU playing sports (other than football)
during Saturday conference.
Vai, It is flattering that you would use my comments in your column.
Thank you! I see a lot of justifications you make in your response to my remarks
regarding you playing on Sunday. Aren't these college kids playing for a career
too? What you are saying sounds like a parent telling their child "Do as I
say, not as I do." I can see if a fireman or a police officer occasionally
needs to serve the public on the Sabbath. However, your job was not a necessary
job and it was to entertain the public on Sunday making $millions$, all the
while the public breaks the sabbath to watch you play. I just find it awful
hypocritical to stand on your platform every week making judgments against
others for the same thing you did. Then, the next week you use all the big name
athletes to justify your actions (i.e. Dale Murphy etc). The reason why the
Savior is a great leader is because he leads by example and not by word only. I
would have probably played too, but I wouldn't stand on the rooftops pointing my
finger at others.
I work at a job where I have to work every other weekend. Fortunately,when I
work Sundays I go to work late enough in the afternoon that I don't have to miss
church. I don't think that the lord or my ward looks down on e because of it. It
is a 24/7 facility so that is the way the contract is written. The only thing I
wish is since it is one of the day my husband has off, I could spend it with
him.Asliving in an area where we are the minority, we just go with the flow but
since we are members we don't do the things that are popular here but we aren't
any better or worse than people around here. We are all children of God. I have
close Lds friends but also have close friends that aren't members. Love reading
your column, Vai.
9er @12:51 Of course not, don't be ridiculous!
Vai, Excellent points, and I really enjoy your point of view! Good for you for
supporting family ties over school color.It bothers me that there
seems to be undercurrent of resentment of the influence of the LDS community in
Utah by a small but vocal minority of complainers.I don't begrudge
Baptists or Catholics or Jews for the sometimes strong influence they have in my
community... They only bring benefits because of how they follow their faiths.
By the way, all my friends and acquaintances know I'm LDS, and there is never
the kind of anti-LDS vitriol that percolates from the beehive state. I only get the occasionally friendly joke about my numerous wives...
...Am I a hypocrite for advocating that the Pac-12 respect the dominant culture
and religion in Utah because many of the athletes, even in a state school, are
LDS? I don't think so, even if you do. Because it's not their careers.Playing college sports on Sundays is a "job" for these LDS college
kids as well while they are earning their tuition to build their careers. Have
you thought of that?Be fair, Vai. That is all we would ask.By the way, glad to hear that you were cheering for the Utes at the end of
that decisive blowout game while most of other BYU fans left the stadium
Magic Man: Vai, you conveniently left out answering why you brought up Utah
playing during conference, but left out why you didn't say anything about past
BYU football games played during Priesthood session. As an LDS member, I always
found that puzzling.------------------Magic - a little comprehension
would've given you the answer to your question in this paragraph:Conference Saturday for Latter-day Saints is probably comparable to Rosh
Hashanah, in that it's important but not as important as our Sabbath, or Yom
Kippur, for Jews. The Church made accommodations last Saturday by tape delaying
priesthood session in the U Institute, but it will never budge on Sundays.
christophYou're straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Instead
of worrying about the letter of the law, you should be worrying about the spirit
of the law. With BYU fans scattered around the world, regardless of when BYU
plays, there's going to be a BYU fan somewhere who could be listening/watching
the game in the wee hours of the morning or late at night on a Sunday.If that bothers you, please don't ever get sick, drive a car, turn on the
lights, flush a toilet, use the phone, listen to the radio, watch television,
have a house catch fire, or stay in a hotel on a Sunday, because you're
contributing to many, many people having to work on Sunday.
Just one point to make...Pac-12 makes no exception for Catholics, Hindu,
Buddhism, Mormon or any other religions...so that is fair in my humble opinion.
Do Bronco Mendenhall and Kyle Whittingham have credibility to encourage kids to
serve missions or should they be ignored since they chose not to serve missions
themselves?No."Am I a hypocrite for playing on
Sundays in the NFL, yet didn't allow my children to play baseball or football in
little league and Pop Warner because many of the tournaments and games were on
Sunday?"Yes."And like Pres. Packer, the Lord
is patient with us and eventually allows us to serve in His Kingdom. Though our
careers required us to work on Sundays, many of us kept our covenants and did
our best."I agree with this sentiment 100%. As pointed out
above, I just disagree that you now have the right/privilege to go around
preaching Sabbath-observancecuz that is when the hypocrisy sneaks in.I would choose to play on Sundays if I had the chance. I love the NFL that
much. Still, I am smart enough to realize that in doing that I'd be putting a
pigskin ahead of a God who was crucified for my sins...and I'd have enough
respect to then not preach about Sabbath-observance later on.
Vai If you had done your job and asked Dr Hill first about Sunday play and
Conference weekend, most of this could of been avoided
I guess I don't understand the whole "game during priesthood"
controversy. Personally, I attended priesthood meeting. But that's more
because I'm a BYU fan than a Utah fan. I have to admit though I checked my
smartphone for the score between speakers. My question though is: What
difference does it make if Ute fans went to the game or went to priesthood
"live"? I know of no commandment to watch it "live". In
fact I've been in several places around the world where it wasn't available live
and last I checked, watching/listening to it recorded isn't a sin. You can
watch it online now at lds dot org and get the same message as those of us who
saw it "live". The only difference is we didn't have to suffer
through the bad football game "live".
Vai, thanks for addressing the concerns expressed by many about your blog last
week. I also appreciate the fact that you called Dr. Hill directly and
addressed your concerns to him. You speak for many of us in asking for some
consideration.My son and I chose to attend Priesthood Meeting and
were glad we did.Lastly, where in the world would we be, if the Lord
didn't allow us to serve him in spite of our weaknesses and short comings? I
really appreciated your perspective on that.
Qwest Perfected,You seem to have a chip on your shoulder regardng
the Church. LDS General Conference is only carried by TV channels and radio
stations that choose to put it on, usually as a public service and never under
pressure from the Church. The Church only strives to make conference available
to as many people as possible, both member and non-member. Just like we can
choose to go to the game or not, you can choose to watch conference or not.
I think some have missed the point. It isn't that the Utes don't need to follow
the PAC 12 decisions on when to play, it isn't that BYU has played football in
other locations during General Priesthood Meeting, it's that the local culture
is being ignored. That is something that Vai points out would likely not happen
in other situations by using examples that are Jewish so he can make his
point.I personally found it interesting that the U of U Institute
didn't say "Attend Priesthood Meeting and we'll record the game" but
chose to say "Attend the game and we'll record Priesthood Meeting."
But that's just me; maybe those who have to work to support holding the game in
some fashion were appreciative that they could then afterwards see the recorded
meeting. Not only are the Utes adjusting to the PAC 12, the PAC 12
ought to adjust to local culture. However, when that culture is LDS forget
getting anything out of the PAC 12. Dr. Hill isn't about to ask the question to
which he already knows the negative answer.Non-members can just
ignore this little discussion and everything will be fine for them, I promise.
Vai,Nice article.It really is all about family.Now could you see what you can do about getting more of your family to attend
BYU!Rise and Shout!
I just enjoyed how bent all of the ute "fans" got over Vai's
I enjoy Vai's take, like me he lives in an area where LDSers are in the
minority. Too many people can't accept a view that others don't share. East
coast has many different cultures and its ok to have a differing view and say it
Vai is being honest, though honesty does not excuse one's actions, it is the
right way to approach life. I made a commitment to never work on Sundays if I
could help it, as I saw many a good investigator fall away from interest due to
being unable to attend church on Sundays, because of work, in Japan. I did work
Sundays on two jobs I had after my mission, but under protest, and quit two jobs
because of it, became a mailman because of it. I do have a problem with NFL
players or any other profession that excuse themselves, but ask others to not
work on Sundays. I also know of how faith builds in people, of repentance and
forgiveness. I cannot condemn people for not keeping any commandment, just hope
they would grant me the same consideration. Most believers, LDS, would see the
hard truth in what Vai says and reports. We simply decare, "this is what I
know God wills, and I cannot change it, I can only do my best to do it, and in
human frailty admit, I often fall short." Doesn't change the truth of the
doctrine. Keep working at living the truth.
Vai,You seem to have a talent for getting people riled up. They all
love you when you are singing to the choir, but disagree with them and it
doesn't matter what color jerseys they like -- the ALL see red.Keep
up the good work. It's nice to read your sincere points of view -- especially
when I disagree with them. It allows me to step outside myself and see life
through someone else's eyes.
Dear Christoph. The Sabbath begins where you are, not where others are. Where
they are is when their Sabbath begins. That is fairly simple to understand. I
hope you can understand this simple explanation.
Vai, Thanks for the second article. I still don't understand why it
is "ok" to play football on Sunday's anywere, but not in Utah. The reason that Miller wanted to avoid playing in Utah was because of
economics. The Jazz would tend to have smaller crowds in some of their less
meaningfull games. Miller didn't close his other businesses on Sundays. Nothing
against Miller, but it wasn't a Church decision. It was an business decision. What difference is it to watch/play a game at home, at a utah stadium,
or flying out of state? The Utes have a stronger fan base then the Jazz, but a
larger stadium to fill. If the Utes fill their stadium on Sundays, they will
continue to play on Sun. It will be a business decision.
"Despite the sarcastic tone of Herby's post and as one who sometimes
resorts to sarcasm, . . ."Vai: Your rant last week
was full of sarcasm. Yet you seem surprised that so many people responded
in-kind. It must be a rude awakening for a former Big Man On Campus -- to now
pursue a career where you can dish it out but also have to take it. Welcome to
the real world.
Vai's answer on LDS players in pro sports mirrors the answer that Dale Murphy
gave to my sons during a fireside back in '91 when he was with the Phillies.
I'm also glad to hear that Hill at least discussed the GC issue and scheduling
with the PAC12 powers. Hopefully they'll listen. Those of us not near campus
don't have the advantage of tape delay of the PH session.
9er4life: "So in this economy where unemployment is at 9.1% and you're
offered a job which requires to work on weekends. And if you're currently
unemployed and mormon and would have to take the job to pay bills, would this be
looked upon negatively among those in your ward?"Not in my ward
Similar to a job playing in the NFL, the University of Utah took a job in the
PAC-12. Sunday play and general conference play came with the job. So players,
coaches, and fans can quit and find another team if they don't like it, just as
Vai could have found a career doing something else if he didn't want to play
football on Sunday. The funny thing for me is that while I attended
the priesthood session, my good friend, who is a devout member of the LDS church
(much more devout than myself) and huge BYU football fan, hasn't been to a
priesthood session in over 10 years! It's not a big deal. There is nothing
sacred about it and the PAC-12 need not be sensitive to it either. In fact it
may help Utah recruit LDS players if they know that there is an opportunity to
get out of a boring two hour Saturday night meeting once a year!
@ BastiatarianNot that it matters, but I did not go to the game on
Saturday. However, I have better things to do on Saturday and the other 6 six
days of the week than evaluating the migratory habits of Mormon football fans or
@EverestFunny, funny stuff!----I think it
funny that mid-major So Cal boy would try and play the jealousy car with Vai.
Has he never read any of Vai's stuff before or is he just trying to thump his
Carson It's ok to live your religion and do what's right for you,
but please stop trying to control every aspect of life in Utah by using
Mormonism!------------ Can you watch the NFL if you live in
Utah? Of course! Even on Sunday.- Do you have to go to BYU if you
live in Utah? Nope, but it is harder to get in than any school in the state.- Do you have to go to church if you live in Utah? You're parents may
have made you, but "the church" or the state don't make you.- Do you have to read the Dnews, Vai and watch KSL in Utah? No, you don't.
Vai, you conveniently left out answering why you brought up Utah playing during
conference, but left out why you didn't say anything about past BYU football
games played during Priesthood session. As an LDS member, I always found that
puzzling. I also find it interesting that you called Chris Hill after writing
your opinion piece instead of before. Maybe you could do an opinion piece on
why BYU has played football games during Priesthood session and if it has hurt
their recruitment of LDS athletes. I assume you would probably talk to Tom
Holmoe before writing it?
Carson It's ok to live your religion and do what's right for you,
but please stop trying to control every aspect of life in Utah by using
Mormonism!------------ You can't smoke in restaurants in Utah?
Oh wait, California did that first.- You can't drink in Utah? Yes
you can. Sadly, people are killed by drunk drivers coming home from bars and
restaurants.- You have to be married in the Temple in Utah? No you
don't.- You have to be married to live together in Utah? No you
don't. You'd be less likely to split up if you got married instead of live
together; less likely to divorce if you don't live together before marriage;
more likely to stay married if you marry in the Temple, but you don't have
to.- You can't shop or fish or hunt or play sports on Sundays if you
live in Utah? Yes you can!
Vai says: "I've managed to offend Cougar Nation, Ute Nation and even some
in the Polynesian community. I'm an equal-opportunity offender."I am sure this statement is "tongue in cheek" but really there is
nothing offensive about having a differing opinion. I am glad that
you speak your mind. I love your articles, and although I might see things
differently, I enjoy reading your articles.Keep 'em coming!
I really enjoyed this article! Both Vai and Dr. Hill represent their
institutions very well. You make a lot of good points about
respecting the "dominant culture." But Utah is part of a larger group
in the PAC-12. The "culture" therefore isn't in one state, its in the
group.If the overall group wants to play games on Sunday or on General
Conference weekends and you can't abide that, then why join the group? BYU needs to seriously consider this when they try to negotiate with a
conference like the BIG-12. The dominate culture will not be centered around
them. I think Dr. Hill has taken the right approach. He realizes that Utah is
part of a larger culture now. He makes requests rather than demands. My guess is
that over time some accommodation can be made without rancor.Good
discussion Vai. I do enjoy your columns.
Nice job putting the haters in their place with response to the jealousy
comment. I wonder how you decided to choose which ones to respond to. I hope you and your kids relate to Elder Eyring when he always talks
about his youthful days living in New Jersey and the extreme lack of LDS people
around. Thanks for being a great member of the Church and an
awesome BYU sports fan and writer!
>It was a value judgement.Yes, and value judgments always tell us
more about the person making that judgement than about what it being judged.
So in this economy where unemployment is at 9.1% and you're offered a job which
requires to work on weekends. And if you're currently unemployed and mormon and
would have to take the job to pay bills, would this be looked upon negatively
among those in your ward?
My opinion: The Deseret News has chosen to carry a Column by a conservative
contributor - Vai. Vai chooses to share his opionions and perspectives
primarily through the lense of his Latter Day Saint views. Vai also chooses to
make sort of sensational comments that are designed to engage the readers and
based on the number of commentators he is somewhat successful. In Utah, most
folks are interested in commentaries like Vai's because it reflects many of
their same values and that is okay, it attracts readers and that is what
newspaper do the last I heard. Most of Vai's opinions reflect broader
experience in sports than the average reader has which makes it informative.
While I don't always agree with Vai, I appreciae his courage to take a stand for
values that most DN readers relate to.
Vai gets misspelled so often when I type my comments on my auto-correcting
"smart' phone. It thinks Vai should be turned into the actual word via.
It also thinks BYU should be turned into buy. And it thinks Sikahema should be
turned into sick human. A lot of diseases are transmitted VIA SICK HUMANs. A
lot more good in the world is transmitted via VAI SIKAHEMA. Thanks Vai.
Consider a scenario that is altogether possible. Suppose the Israeli women's
basketball team came on an American tour in the fall. What are the odds that the
hosting university would schedule a game on Yom Kippur, the holiest of the
Jewish High Holy Days? Or even the Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashanah, which is not
as important. Would the hosting university disregard that fact or would they
make scheduling accommodations to avoid the conflict? It just seems to me we are
often willing to bend over backwards for everyone else, but we're squeamish
about making demands on issues that matter to us.Conference Saturday
for Latter-day Saints is probably comparable to Rosh Hashanah, in that it's
important but not as important as our Sabbath, or Yom Kippur, for Jews. The
Church made accommodations last Saturday by tape delaying priesthood session in
the U Institute, but it will never budge on Sundays.---------Well put by Vai, a classy thing for the LDS Church to do.
It's ok to live your religion and do what's right for you, but please stop
trying to control every aspect of life in Utah by using Mormonism!
@ christoph,I don't think Mormons are living the Law of Moses. It
probably begins when they wake up on the Sabbath.
This whole thing strikes me as the classic issue of desiring that people tell us
what they think and speak truth then when they do it we are mortified and cannot
accept it- we say this all the time about politcians and then the few that do
open their mouth and really say what they think and not what the latest poll
numbers tell them to speak we punish- congrats to Vai and Hill for sharing their
thoughts and trying to be at least somewhat honest about things
Vai I love your insights whether I agree or disagree with you. Keep on keeping
I don't understand this what so ever. I understand why byu would arrange their
schedule in order to fit with their religous beliefs but the University of Utah
is state run public school.I graduated from the U and I know there
is a large percentage of mormons that make up the student body. If they had a
religous conflict with the game then they could chose to not attend. The mormon church already puts their conference on national TV - interrupting
regularly scheduled programing. At the same time that church owns at least a
dozen channels of their own.It would be nice if you could look past
your own beliefs to see how they effect others. The concept of separation of
church and state is a good principle and should be followed by everyone - even
It's amazing to me how a simple name like 'VAI', can be misspelled so many
Vai, you do not share your email on here but I wanted to ask you to comment or
write a column about the TCG gang. Alot of people dont understand it and i've
seen comments on desnews and other places saying to deport these kids to the
islands (even though they were born here) and comments that the church was wrong
in converting and bringing islanders to Utah. Polynesians dont have a voice in
this discussion in the media and I hope you can delve into it and explain to
people about 2nd generation kids and that gangs have come from immigration from
whites too like the Italian and Irish mafias. Thanks hope to hear from you on
Vai, we are in Utah but we also have people that don't believe in what you
believe in. BYU is a private school hence they can and do as they like. Chris
Hill has to look at it with a view that he has both non and current LDS and its
not fair to the students who dont believe in it either.
So what happens this winter when BYU basketball plays in the WCC on Espn at 9pm
Saturday night tipoff on the West Coast and it is 10pm (Utah time) and the game
goes passed midnight in Utah???????? It definitely will be past midnight for
those watching in the Central time zone and for Vai back in Philly. When does
the Sabbath begin???
Vai, You are an amazing writer. To have so many people "get it"
is a real talent. You will always have those "haters" who will avoid
getting it at all costs, just due to their inward, and even outward hate.They seam to have the attitude of, "Lord, forgive those who sin
differently than I".
Via's View is an opinion not law. Via has taken the time at the asking of the
Deseret News to give his opinions on certain topics. While I don't agree with
everything that he writes I have major respect for Via that he is willing to put
his opinions out there to invoke our thoughts on these subjects. There is a
comment board for you to express your opinions on these subjects and I commend
Via for answering some of these concerns and giving us the reasons for his
views. We all live our lives and base our opinions on our experiences and what
we have been taught. Our opinions will always vary either greatly or slightly
from those around us. We need to respect others opinions and realize they have
a different view based on their life circumstances. We are only the judge on
what is right for us and our minor children. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
"Hill understood and respected my position" -- VaiYet you
didn't respect his last week, which a simple phone call could have resolved.
Thanks, Vai, for the follow up. It is good to hear you took action on finding
out some answers to your questions. Also, thanks for sharing your answers on
our questions. A more perfect ending could not be done better in sharing that
no matter the school color, family comes first.
Plenty of LDS priesthood holders I am sure decided to attend the game instead of
watch the priesthood session live. It was a value judgement. It is not up to
anyone to judge. Each individual has to look at their own heart and determine if
they are good with divine providence. Everyone else needs to pay attention to
their own business.
To my Vai's original story was suggesting we do all we can to try and make
things workout with both sides, spiritual and temporal as we say.He
mentioned the Larry Miller, even being a brand new owner, approached the NBA and
pushed hard for special accomodations.My guess is that Vai had a 0%
chance of moving NFL games to Thursday nights. Right?His whole
point was just his belief that again Dr. Hill use his influence to do all he can
do accomodate the circumstances. No one is suggesting Utah has to act like BYU
in every way because many Utes are Mormons. Utah is not a religious school. No
one is arguging that point. But to me Vai's point of doing what we can still