Comments about ‘'Occupy Wall Street' won't bring solutions’

Anti-capitalist bend?

Uhhhh, we shouldn't let wall street rip us off, lose our retirements, and then demand that we bail them out so that they can give themselves bonuses.

If that's anti-capitalist, then please, sign me up.

During the Great Depression in the grain farming areas of the Canadian dust bowl (Prairies) they had penny auctions.

The neighbors would gather and would bid penny's for the land, livestock and equipment. Bidding against the penny buyers usually wound up being beaten.

The winning bidders would then sell everything to the original family for one penny more.

This is the worst case of "striking at the branches" i've ever seen and i'm not that old. It's so dishonest and disingenious.

Wall Street does what it does because our elected officials allow it. This is the antithises of leadership. There is not leadership in Washington.

Leadership does not blame. Blaming is dishonest. These protesters blaming WS will not solve anything. It's just annoying complaining. Complaining is not an action that will fix anything.

You want change?
Term Limits
Curb Earmarks
Get government out of the venture capitalist role. (Why don't you complain about all the wasteful tarp money?)
Cut lobbying
Restrict Unions
Reduce the bariers that cause business to outsource jobs and store money off-shore.

Protesting the waste of money by capitalists while turning the other cheek on government waste is laughable at least and immoral at most.

Get some perspective folks. Stop blaming. Accept personal responsibility and hold your leaders accountable.

And by the way? Who is funding all this?

Oh, Capitalists. I see.

The puppeteering continues.

Ether 8, folks.

Ether 8.

I will have to disagree with the author of this post. This country was founded on protests. Protests most certainly do bring solutions. The solutions may not come overnite. The solutions may need to be fought for (hopefully peacefully). The freedom to protest is one of the freedoms that men and women in our military are fighting for and losing their lives for. Please do not every think that this freedom will not bring solutions.

I think the "Occupy Wall Street" movement does do something useful. It shows us which politicians are more interested in big banks than trying to understand the frustration of people with Wall Street and government bailouts.

Asked about the movement Mitt Romney said that he's worried about "trying to occupy the White House." Of course Mitt Romney sees no reason to focus on Wall Street, they are funding his campaign to the tune of millions of dollars.

Meanwhile, Herman Cain, who the media tries to sell as the "people's" candidate, or the "non-politician", says the people are wasting their time. "If you're not rich, blame yourself." Herman Cain worked as director at the Kansas City Federal Reserve Board, supported the bailout of the banks, and has said there is no reason to audit the Federal Reserve. Herman Cain is not the people's candidate, he is the bankers' candidate.

Ron Paul has defended the rights of people to protest peacefully, stood firm against bank bailouts and government handouts to big business. He's spoken out against corporatism. If you want a "people's" candidate, look no further than this man.

This is a good article that we all need to remember, because we are seeing these very types of actions in Greece and England. So if we want to avoid the same kind of misteps as Europe, we as a nation need to realize that government can't be everything to everyone. Socialism just doesn't work. Therefore, everyone needs to learn to take more responsibility for themselves and their families if we are going to maintain any kind of a properous and free and democratic loving society.

We need to vote out of office Pres. Obama and his ilk that don't understand we can't spend our way out of this mess. Pres Obama couldn't even understand his own commissions recommendations for the budget and for long-term stability of our country. I appeciate his efforts to help the less-fortunate, but he can't do it on the backs of the middle class, because that is what he is doing. In the long run, we all go down together as failures, and I don't want that to happen to my children and grandchildren.

What the protests are about is that we dont run the government anymore. We are supposed to be 'of the people, by the people and for the people" but its hard to do that when our government is run by who has the most money. Even the Supreme Court has given 'personhood' rights to corporations which means they have no limits on how much money they funnel into campaigns.
When business runs our government it isnt ours anymore. Why do you think it started on Wall st.? Well a few blocks off because they weren't actually allowed to bother wall street businesses. Wonder who made sure of that?
Next time ask the people there before bothering to write a whole article on the protesters not even knowing what they are there for. They know. So do the ones now being done across the country.

The tea-party movement didn't have arrest and were non-violent. What is happening in New York, is nothing like the tea-party movement. A group of young people trying to immitate the hippies of old, commiting crime, and demanding the government to steal from those that have and give to those who don't have (which every time in history this happens, none of that wealth makes it to the poor). Where as the tea-party is demanding their freedom and right to work and grow and create jobs and wealth.

These are two seperate and different ideologies. One is to take from others and steal. The other wants less government and the freedom to be American again.

Excuse me, but:

"unable to articulate" their cause?

May I suggest you read copy in the Chicago Tribune, the Examiner and the LA Times to start.

These protesters are very much bringing their case to the public view, and they stand against the corporate greed and corruption that has been instrumential in the greatest financial collapse since the Great Depression.

I quote Josh Silver, who launched Democracy Fund (a foundation that challenges the influence of corporate lobbyists over government policymaking) "The Wall Street protests represent the most potentially transforming political movement in generations; finally a revolt against the root problem that corrupts and paralyzes U.S. Government."

The 2010 "Citizen's United" ruling has created an overwhelming flood of "unlimited" corporate money pouring into our government, that shuts out the "99 percent" you hear so much about.

Americans have lost jobs, homes and savings, but we have not lost hope.

Please don't diminish the voices of these Americans, exercising their Constituional right to peaceful free speech.

To "The Real Maverik" or Orem, get a grip of reality, Wall St doesn't want to rip us off of our retirements! What they want is more money from the middle class to invest as it only makes their retirement accounts bigger. So they need us to succeed and we need them to succeed. Don't you get it, we need this to be a win, win situation.

Wow. Even in Utah?
I don't condone destruction or violence of any kind. By far, the Occupy Wall Street protestors have conducted themselves peacefully.

The message coming loud and clear from Republicans is when white-haired, white folks gather to protest it is legitimate. When a younger and more diverse crowd get together to protest it is un-American.

re:ronk-sandy
It isn't about govt. doing everything for us. It is about crooks who helped collapse the economy, not only not being held accountable but being bailed out by taxpayers. Apparently govt. help is okay if it flows upward. People simply want jobs, want to keep their homes, retirement savings and healthcare. The youth want jobs and an AFFORDABLE education. In the past five years, tuition at public colleges has increased 57 percent, but the maximum amount students can borrow from the federal loan program hasn't risen a dime it's stayed at $23,000. Three out of four full-time college students have jobs, and nearly half of them (46%) work more than 25 hours a week.

An earlier post mentioned Cain's responce to the Occupation of Wall Street. I thought he had a very good point. There is no free ride in this world, and the sooner we as a people realize this the better off we will be. Now I am all for stopping corruption but I also think this country as a whole doesn't realize what it takes to be middle class. It is hard and requires diligence and persitence. I have talked about in other post how my family and I are in one of the lowest tax brackets barely able to hold on to our house and put food on the table. But we hope and are working towards fixing our situation. Back to school for me and a big dose of penny pinching at home. That is what we need to do as a country pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and continue onward.

if you lived through the 60-70's you would have seen the same thing...hippy protestors....nothing new! I read where one of the protestors yesterday claimed they were marching to eliminate the media to preserve free speech...they make just about as much sense today as they did back then....next they will be spitting on police and soldiers, if they haven't already~

re:ronk-sandy " What they want is more money from the middle class to invest as it only makes their retirement accounts bigger."

Really?
Is that what they were doing when they made recommendations to clients and then bet against those recommendations?

You really don't know what has been going on in Wall Street for the past 10 yrs.
Here's some homework:
Watch: The Warning, Frontline series on PBS (you can watch in free on-line)
Watch; Inside Job

Gist of the article: TEA Party (conservatives) = good, Occupy Wall Street (non-conservatives -- though some conservatives are taking part in it) = bad.

Non violent protesters accomplished quite a bit in the 60's. Hopefully these stay non-violent.

There is nothing wrong with people expressing their opinion, and this is one way to do it. It is our right.

Truth,

I lived through those times - but if I remember right, they were protesting the Vietnam war. Guess what? They were right...

And of course there were protest over the civil rights issues. Guess what? They were right too...

Jay, Why can't you comprehend what the Enron tutored Wall Street crooks have done to us? They have put the futures of we common folk at risk. This is something to get angry about. Moreover, global capitalism is sick, sick, sick. Why? Because corporations and fat cats have refused to fund the social safety net through taxation, leading to large sovereign debts, meaning more and more of our taxes benefit the lenders through debt interest, not the rank and file.

Do I sense a bit of fear in your remarks? Well you should be afraid because the rank and file has had its fill.

I find it interesting that we point to big business as the people who are funding these political campaigns. I do not deny that big business like AT&T have donated a lot of money to campaigns ($41, 660,404 54-44% split between republicans and democrats respectively). But, the majority of the top ten major contributors are labor unions and the majority of the funding is going to the Democratic Party not Republicans.

Total Contributions 1989-2010
D=Democrat
R=Republican
1 ActBlue $55,093,735D99%R0%
2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $45,820,853 D94%R1%
3 AT&T Inc $41,660,404D44%R54%
4 National Assn of Realtors $40,020,510D47%R49%
5 Service Employees International Union $37,151,289D75%R2%
6 National Education Assn $36,433,925D81%R5%
7 American Assn for Justice $34,328,421D89%R8%
8 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $33,824,355D97%R2%
9 Laborers Union $31,640,067D89%R7%
10 American Federation of Teachers $31,342,403D91%R0%
11 Teamsters Union $30,858,309D89%R6%

Who is John Galt?

The Occupy Salt Lake Protest is particulary necessary in Utah, where there is no two party system and the legislature continually sells out to those who make money by owning assets and cuts back on services that benefit those who earn their money by working. Protesting is the last remaining effective communication for needed change. Most workers in Utah simply cannot live the way they used to before the tax sytem was radically changed to benefit rich.
I feel honored to have participated in today's protest.