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Published: Thursday, Oct. 6 2011 12:15 p.m. MDT

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Kosta Fesenko
Chicken McNuggetville, UT

looks like the best course for BYU is to just stay indy in football and play the teams on their level (mid to bottom tier mid-majors) and leave teh other sports in the WCC.

BlueSaint
South Jordan, UT

BYU left out? Who says BYU wants in? BYU is staying indie, and will pave their own path. The BIG 12 inviting TCU is about as exciting as watching snow melt. Tells one that they are clueless as to what that conference needs to stabilize. BYU will not leave the West Coast Conference hanging, and they will honor their commitment to them.

People forget that with ESPN, BYU is set and ready for this Independent path. They do not need a conference for exposure. They are getting more than any other program in the country. I for one have always wanted BYU to go indie. I hope they give it a chance, before jumping into a unstable conference with no attraction.

Kosta Fesenko
Chicken McNuggetville, UT

@Blue Saint

Im guessing that comment is said tongue in cheek?

cougarNV
Las Vegas, NV

Though I would love to see Byu play the likes of Texas and OK OK.st all the time in football, I really would love to see the Basketball Games being in the Big Twelve!

But, Alas, if it is true that Brother Holmoe and the Administration is leary of the control issues, by being in the Big Twelve, I can't say I blame them after the stupid experience of the Mtn West Conf.

I believe the Y can take the time to make sure the deals are good, rather than jump into another MWC fiasco.

Go Cougars!

MondayMorningQB
A Van Down by The River, UT

Boise State has tripled their recruiting efforts out of the very rich and fertile Texas recruiting grounds. A BIG12 bid now would put this school head to head with TCU for a long time. BYU as stated above is the ugly duckling still waiting for the prom king to ask her out.

Utah State has a better future then BYU and that is no dis on the Aggies, as they are building upon mountains of success and they like the Utes do not have the over-reaching religious thing to distract them. I respect the ardent fans and alum of BYU and completely understand them wanting certain things for their team, but BYU has lost its glimmer and it is much to do with the school the team the culture as it is the realignment that is happening around them. Utes & Aggies will rule as Utah's representatives for the next many years.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Some among the Cougar Nation speculated that BYU's invitation to the Big12 would be announced in last weekends General Conference.

However, those who listened carefully heard President Monson teach in the Priesthood Session that at times individual Church members and the Church itself must "Stand Alone".

Get it, Cougar Nation?

MondayMorningQB
A Van Down by The River, UT

@bluesaint I know its hard to divorce your feelings from the facts, but BYU disparately needed a hook-up with a reputable Conference. BIG12 and snow-melt?? Well regardless of your existence it is a major deal in football country, and it is potentially going to get better if the BIG12 can help Boise State find a better conference. ESPN does not guarantee BYU success as an Indie and how arrogant that argument is when Cougar-nation insinuates that their legacy is comparable with Notre Dame.....not a chance. Your comment about "They are getting more than any other program in the country" is that more conjecture on your part or do you have something factual to back it up?

BYU fan seems to remain in feeling long past the point of loosing the argument.

DD JayMario
American Fork, UT

The Big 12 is not a good fit for BYU. BYU needs an independent home schedule with Idaho and San Jose State to ensure a bowl-bound season of success.

Independence is the best way to the Independence Bowl.

Floyd Johnson
Broken Arrow, OK

Good for TCU. Big East did not make sense.

Andy
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I love Utah football, but I think so many U fans are ridiculous. Seriously, spend all that energy rooting the Utes on to a conference victory. Your obsession with the TDS and its future (or alleged lack of a future) is borderline psychotic. Forget them and focus on the UTES.

GO UTES!!

relientk
Lindon, UT

Hey all you BYU haters....get a flippin life and go worry about your own program that's about to drop to 2-3 this week!

Hondo
Alpine, UT

The invitation just came in the mail. I received it by mistake and will be forwarding it to BYU officials after I spend a few hours alone with it. It's got a nice glossy finish on it.

I was hoping for something from Publisher's Clearinghouse or Geico, but this will have to do.

idaho cougar fan
Twin Falls, ID

@ naval vet and all other Y haters,

BYU not wanted, not true!! Why do you think the Big 12 is trying so desperately to become more stable? BYU wants in on certain conditions or else leaving independence does not make sense.

1. Revenue sharing. Check
2. Retain Tier III rights for BYUTV. Check
3. Replacing A&M. Check

I think (except UT) the rest of Big 12 wants 12 teams. If Mizzou stays, by my calculations, they need 2 more teams. If they leave, 3 more. If Mizzou stays BYU might not get an invite to test the 10 team conference for awhile. By 2013 or 14 they will go to 12 teams. If Mizzou leaves, depending on the package of the other 2 teams they ask BYU this year. BYU is in a win-win situation. No need to be hasty.

idaho cougar fan
Twin Falls, ID

As I stated earlier, BYU has no need to be hasty. They are making sure they get the best possible deal for them. As much as I would like to see them in the Big 12 conference next year, I would hate to see that the conference was disfuctional and doomed. I think they are trying to show stability and whenever it happens, they will make the jump.

Terry
Sandy, UT

Breaking News all over the net/sports radio, BYU turned down Big XII invite 2 weeks ago! If Mizzou leaves and they expand again, Louisville is their next candidate!

I would guess they have so much money from tithing, they just don't need to triple their TV revenue in the Big 12 and provide us fans and national TV with much more enticing conference match ups like vs. Oklahoma/Texas. They must also think their fans like watching them beat small schools like Idaho/NM State etc. at home rather than playing national powers at home. :(

Good News is that this opens the door to a national championship for BYU, but unfortunately it will be in FCS/1-AA championship since the major conference will break away from the NCAA in the next couple years leaving BYU on the outside looking in and completely irrelevant/1-AA status.

Goodbye season tickets and cougar club membership/donations to many of us fans/(by the thousands) if these reports are confirmed!!!

U Student Y Fan
Woods Cross, UT

Those who believe independence is superior to an invitation to an AQ conference (albeit an unstable one) are delusional.

I agree that "independence" (really it is the ESPN contract)has proven to be a great means of exposure. If exposure in and of itself is all that matters to BYU and the LDS church, job well done.

However, as BYU continues to get embarrassed by its rivals and by weaker teams on national television, I assume this exposure will first prove to be negative, and second eventually go away.

As superconferences come to fruition, as I believe they will, BYU will find its independent self unable to schedule any quality opponents, as teams add another conference game or two to its schedule and have little incentive to play quality non-conference games. Good luck using the football program as a missionary program when WAC teams become the best of your schedule.

As a non-LDS BYU fan, I have long understood and accepted

WON84
PLANO, TX

It's pretty clear what's happened here. The initial story when Big XII expansion restarted with the departure of Texas A&M was ND, Arkansas, and BYU. Then, once ND and Arkansas reaffirmed being pleased with the current positions it was BYU, TCU, and a bunch of Big East schools.

Then, after BYU reaffirmed by pleased with their current position it was TCU.

Fans should be worried about the direction BYU is taking BYU, not external forces.

Pac12Proud
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

BlueSaint | 1:38 p.m. Oct. 6, 2011

"The BIG 12 inviting TCU is about as exciting as watching snow melt. Tells one that they are clueless as to what that conference needs to stabilize. BYU will not leave the West Coast Conference hanging, and they will honor their commitment to them."

1) "They are clueless" about their own conference? And you know what they need??
2) As long as the WCC doesn't find out what byu did to USU, they will believe you.

What goes around...

U Student Y Fan
Woods Cross, UT

As a non-LDS BYU fan, I have long accepted and understood that there is more to the school than football. However, I believe that at some point the school has to use some common sense. Does anyone really believe that BYUtv freedom is better than inclusion in an AQ conference? And does anyone believe that a losing BYU football team is an effective "missionary tool"? The only way BYU's football program will actually be an effective missionary program is to win football games and stop embarrassing itself by referring to itself as such.

Independence may have been better than the Mountain in terms on money/exposure, but it is a terrible long-term strategy. Scheduling will soon be near impossible, and as BYU's football program continues to decline, these short-term benefits will disappear. I believe BYU is headed for football obscurity.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

BlueSaint said:
BYU left out? Who says BYU wants in? BYU is staying indie, and will pave their own path. The BIG 12 inviting TCU is about as exciting as watching snow melt. Tells one that they are clueless as to what that conference needs to stabilize. BYU will not leave the West Coast Conference hanging, and they will honor their commitment to them.

People forget that with ESPN, BYU is set and ready for this Independent path. They do not need a conference for exposure. They are getting more than any other program in the country. I for one have always wanted BYU to go indie. I hope they give it a chance, before jumping into a unstable conference with no attraction.

Partly agree with you. But to say that BYU is getting more exposure than any other program in the country is just laughable.

They will never be up where USC, Nebraska, Alabama, Ohio St, Oklahoma and others are.
If nobody is watching, or tuning into BYU TV, who cares.

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