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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 5 2011 6:24 a.m. MDT

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Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Rewrite it all you want Dems but it is not a jobs bill, it is a debt increasing bill and therefore a jobs killing bill, just like the last "stimulus" package you scammed us with.

md
Cache, UT

Do we really want to keep printing money that has ever decreasing value? The government needs to quit thinking it creates jobs.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'I thought it was the big bad Republicans who obstructed a poor innocent Obama' - Counter Intelligence | 9:28 a.m. Oct. 5, 2011

Wow.

Short memory.

*'House GOP regroups after loss on spending bill' - By Andrew Taylor - AP - Published by DSNews - 09/22/11

'WASHINGTON House GOP leaders are regrouping after a surprise loss on a measure to provide $3.7 billion for disaster relief and prevent a government shutdown at the end of next week.'

Obama is the only one who's done ANYTHING to create jobs.

The Republican party, blocked this bill, changed it, and are now portraying themselves as 'job creators.'

*Republicans block small business lending bill' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews - 07/29/10

Line:
'The bill would create a $30 billion government fund to help community banks increase lending to small businesses...'

The initial Bush tax cuts passed in 2001.

If they were SO successful for our 'job creators'...

why do they need to create a jobs bill, 10 years after the job 'creators' were supposed to be making...

jobs?

Answer:

Because they did not.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Boehner said he and Cantor had written to Obama telling him there are several areas of his jobs bill on which they can work together. Boehner sharply chided Obama for being in "campaign mode" and failing to govern with Congress "to help our country." Boehner had nearly three years now to see if their plan works, and clearly their ideas about how to get our economy going again have not worked because they had "NO" plan. Are the GOP still sending jobs overseas?. Lets see. That terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed last week, was American-born and was a top recruiter for al-Qaida. You don't often see an American taking a foreigner's job. "Mama mia, that's a spicy verdict." That's why there is these "Wall Street protests." Think Occupy Wall St. is a phase?. You don't get it. Yes, there are a wide array of complaints, demands, and goals from the Wall Street protesters, the collapsing environment, labor standards, housing policy, government corruption, World Bank lending practices, unemployment, increasing wealth disparity and so on. Different people have been affected by different GOP, same system are symptoms of the same core of these same problem's.

MY Views.

rmk
South Jordan, UT

people out of work means they are not paying taxes and buying good, but using government assistance. People worried about their jobs are also not buying goods. Gas at almost $4 a gallon means people are spend hundreds a month on gas and not on goods. Nobody buying goods means companies don't need to hire. Government cuts are really job cut and if the government is laying off more than the private jobs are created we are going no where with the economy. Nothing is going to be fixed until people are working. we need to solve why gas is $80 a barrel and we are paying $145 a barrel gas prices. Millionaires and Exxon paying more is not going to kill jobs. This job bill is a joke. Fix gas prices you fix the job problem. Make the rich pay there share in taxes we balance the budget. Vote out all of the activist bought people in Washington we all win.

md
Cache, UT

Re: Pagan "Obama is the only one who's done ANYTHING to create jobs."

I have created 2 new jobs this year. What have you done?

Original JP
YORBA LINDA, CA

Pagan,
It is clear you have no ability to formulate an argument on your own and even the cut and paste style of "one liners" that you quote provide little evidence that you know what you are talking about. The line about a bill that would create $30 billion in spending sounds nice. However, if that bill is anything like the government intrusion into mortgage lending, which also sounded nice at the time because EVERYONE can borrow money to buy their own home. What the mortgage plan failed to disclose was that there would be many that would borrow that did not have the ability to pay the mortgage. Those ideas as well as others you make sound so pretty, yet are so short sighted. The largest effect on the economy was the housing market crumbling under the false market created by your friends.

TOO
Sanpete, UT

Pagan,

It's not the Republicans blocking this one, it's Harry Reid. Yesterday McConnel said to vote on it, but Harry Reid said "no", that it was a political stunt. McConnel was just trying to do what Obama asked and vote. But the truth is that Harry Reid knows that not many Democrats even support the bill. Obama can't even get his own party to do it.
So when Republicans yesterday said they would vote on it, it was Reid who said no--not the Republicans.

"White House calls McConnell move on jobs a stunt"--AP

There's your source.

Hawkeye79
Iowa City, IA

@Pagan | 9:51 a.m. Oct. 5, 2011

You are so very critical of the Bush tax cuts, but have you taken a look at the unemployment figures?

The unemployment rate in 2010 was over 9.5% for nearly the entire year (there were a couple of summer months at 9.4%). In December 2010, the unemployment rate was back up to 9.8%.

The Bush Tax Cuts were extended on December 17th, 2010.

Unemployment dropped to 9.4% in January 2011, and has hovered around 9% ever since. Nearly a half-percentage point drop in the unemployment rate came immediately, and the situation has improved markedly since last year.

But, of course, this could only be a coincidence, right? Perhaps you would agree more readily if I simply said, "although we can never know for sure, the unemployment situation would probably have been even worse if the tax cuts weren't extended." That approach probably sounds more familiar to you.

GAS
WOODS CROSS, UT

This White House is disingenuous about Obamas bill. No one has sponsored the bill in the House. It cannot be voted on until it becomes a House bill. Cantor, Boehner and the rest of the Republicans cannot stop a bill that does not exist. This fact seems to escape Ms. Werner. If this bill was meant to solve the problem, the dems would be lining up to sponsor it. It is just an Obama campaign ploy to help him to run against the evil Republicans in congress. He is not serious about fixing the economy or creating jobs. He wants to make the US into the socialist utopia of Europe and change our economy and success. He needs to be defeated. The solution stop the gridlock in congress is to replace every liberal dem with a conservative Republican who is not interested in his or her own power.

cheffy chef
Holladay, UT

If giving tax breaks to rich people and giant profitable corporations created jobs we would have plenty of jobs. Let's let the "job creators" know it is time for the jobs in this country, then, give them the tax breaks.
Republicans are suppose to be great buiness people but they do not get the most simple concerpt; revenue is needed to drive a capitolist economy. If 2% of the people have all of the money and do not spend it here. We lose. I'm tired of paying my taxes so rich people do not have to.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

thanks but no thanks Dems. Judging from the other "jems" you have produced in the past 3 years (Obamacare, Cap n trade, stimulus....) I just as soon wait 12 months until we get a new president and hopefully new GOP senate members who actually have the competency to write something that works!!! By then the "road block" called Obama will be history as well.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Americans fed-up.

Mitch McConnell moved to call the president's bluff again and again?.

Will Mitch McConnell also call the bluff of the members of Occupy Wall Street to here?.

It's people like Mitch McConnell that woke up a sleeping bear, and 99 percent of American's are now standing up, to get rid of fools like him, and, Take Back America.

America belongs to "we the people", not these lifer's, that's been in Congress for the past several decades.

The members of Occupy Wall Street may be as unwieldy, paradoxical, and inconsistent as those of us living in the real world. But that is precisely why their new approach to protest is more applicable, sustainable and actionable than what passes for politics today. They are suggesting that the fiscal operating system on which we are attempting to run our economy is no longer appropriate to the task. They mean to show that there is an inappropriate and correctable disconnect between the abundance America produces and the scarcity its markets manufacture. And in the process, they are pointing the way toward something entirely different than the zero-sum game of artificial scarcity favoring top-down investors and media makers alike.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:cheffy chef

Revenue is produced by the private sector not the government and unfortunately Barack Obama being the inexperienced college professor that he is doesn't get it. The way you turn the engine of capitalism back on is to create an environment that is favorable for business to expand and hire which is the exact opposite of what we see today and that is why unemployment remains above 9%. Go ahead and tax your hated rich and see what happens - unemployment will rise even further and the small amount of extra revenue won't do squat for the economy. Maybe it will make you and your liberal friends happy - for a moment - to stick it to the rich but the majority of folks will suffer even more. The answer to a return to prosperity in America is simple - get a new president in 2012!!

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

All they do in washington is create debt by stealing from us and other countries to make themselves and their corporate and offshore banking masters rich. If you expect them to do anything else, you will be waisting your time.

md
Cache, UT

Unemployment continues to rise, because there is no incentive for those on unemployment to take a lesser job. They get 99 weeks of pay to do nothing. I think they should have to report to the local city or county public works and be asked to do odd jobs to be eligible for their check. I am dismayed at the number of people I have met who have told me that they aren't eager to go off of unemployment because they essentially get to sit and get a check while working jobs under the table for cash.

Let's give people an incentive to get back to work.

CottageCheese
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I am a recent college grad and I just can't wait to give my hard earned cash to those who have chosen not to work and sacrifice as I did.

YAY!!!

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

libs aren't signing on to o's no go job bill? usually they just sign it and then they can find out what's in it. lefties are brilliant aren't they.

Hawkeye79
Iowa City, IA

@ Brother Chuck Schroeder | 11:55 a.m. Oct. 5, 2011

You do realize that copying/pasting the words of another person and trying to pass them off as your own is called "plagiarism," don't you?

Douglas Rushkoff would be disappointed that you lifted a full section from one of his latest articles without giving credit where credit is due.

FDRfan
safety dictates, ID

I hope Mitt Romney has the good political sense to not oppose this bill. If he does he may gain some favor with the TP but will loose votes 10 to 1 or more.

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