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Riley Nelson or Jake Heaps? A former BYU quarterback's insight

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  • Anony AURORA, CO
    Oct. 6, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    I think it's funny when people say things like, "Give the ball to the talent," meaning Heaps. He may be "the talent" on paper and he may have been very successful in high school, but he's not working out in the real world, on the real field, where it counts! So I don't care how much supposed talent or potential he has. I do know that there's NO WAY he could have pulled off that 96-yard scoring drive with 2:38 to go in the game. NO WAY. It just wouldn't have happened with him. However Nelson did it, or however much luck was involved, he still did it. He still pulled off the comeback.

    I'm also baffled when people say that Heaps is the future of the team. He only has two more years, and he doesn't have it together yet! I say let Nelson be the starter for the remainder of this season and next, and then let Heaps start his senior year. Or redshirt him next year and he can play for 2 years after Nelson is done. Maybe he'll be ready by then and have more than just "potential."

  • eljefeBYUfan Denver, CO
    Oct. 5, 2011 8:22 p.m.

    Sure a lot of Ute trolls begging for Nelson, which should be a sure indicator for quite the opposite.

    Nelson's flutter passes and tipped touchdowns are not exactly a fixed formula for success.

    IMNSHO, start Heaps. Just sayin' . . .

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 10:06 p.m.

    RE: RG

    Dude the other players do not like to be made the reason why Heaps is ineffective.

    It is never cool to throw your team mates under the bus. Heaps has been weighed and measured and he comes up wanting.

    Sorry Heaps lovers another over rated High School wonder boy that did not stack up to reality.

    Can you say Ben Olsen.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    How do not start Riley ? The message you send to the team is that we play the coach's favorite, the player with all the publicity, not the kid who has earned the spot by out preforming the kid in front of him. This is a slippery slope, but it does not need to be one. You start the kid who beat out the starer it is that simple.,

  • ed in atl Duluth, GA
    Oct. 4, 2011 7:12 p.m.

    The first offensive play on Saturday goes like this - both Jake and Riley start, Jake hands off or throws to Riley, Riley runs or passes. You start them both. Look at the passes Riley threw last week, maybe one was spot on target if that. The last touchdown the pass was thrown behind JJ, he was lucky that the hail marry was not picked off.

  • TobyF PROVO, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    @BlueSaint

    Sorry, I saw Riley on campus this morning. It looks like the locks are gone. Hopefully, we won't see a Samson-esque fall.

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Oct. 4, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    Truth is, without a running game, neither of these QB's will be able to throw the ball with any success. And you shouldn't rely on your QB to do your running.

    Doman is responsible for both the poor running game and passing game.

    Doman may not be throwing the ball, but he is designing the plays and the routes. Because of Doman both the passing game and the running game are suffering. You put all the blame on Heaps, but he only passes the ball. And there are four running backs not accomplishing anything. The one thing in common between the two is Doman.

  • CT98 Saint George, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    I would love to see Lark get some playing time....PLEASE! They say Lark was very impressive in fall camp.

  • offenderforaword South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    Last year Shoemaker wrote a similar article, with the conclusion that Riley should back into the sunset and Jake should be the unquestioned starter.

    He cited pretty much the same stories of his abbreviated playing time to reach that conclusion last year.

  • Parkite1 Park City, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 11:46 a.m.

    Absolutely bang on and starting Nelson is the "only" right thing to do. Anything else is wrong. If Heaps is the future then he will take ownership of the team and blame himlelf for the two losses, rather than pinning the blame on the lack of a running game. He will pin the blame solely on himself as the leader and move on.

    Nelson's arm may be a lot better than you think though as his TD pass to Apo might not be a fluke and there was enough zing to avoid the interception in the endzon which thankfully turned into another albeit deflected-td...

  • Humm?? Tropic, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    Hold on there about the San Jose prediction. I'd say BYU better watch out for them with either QB. That is BYU's problem a lot. An inflated sense of position.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Oct. 4, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    San Jose State is no pushover. They've won two in a row and if Heaps plays like he has, BYU could easily lose to SJSU just like they almost lost to USU. Nelson plays for BYU to win, Heaps plays for Heaps.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Yeah, but which one can perform at the Friday night firesides?

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    Feterik was a waste. Shoemaker should have started that season.

    I agree. Let Wiley Riley start until he blows it, then bring in Heaps or ?

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 8:16 a.m.

    IF you look back at BYU history you will find a slew of QB's that didn't have a great arm. McMahon's passes fluttered, Detmer, Young, Feterik, Sarkasian, Wilson also. So what. What makes the difference is the fire that all these guys had in their gut. Heaps seems to lack that fire and competitive spirit. Start Nelson.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 8:02 a.m.

    it does'nt matter because we're so good we will win no matter what.

  • fowersjl Farmington, Utah
    Oct. 4, 2011 6:44 a.m.

    Thanks for the article and insight, Mr. Shoemaker. I remember calling out your name in games (along with hundreds of fans), hoping the coach would put you in instead of Feterick. Alas, it didn't happen. Wonder how different that season would have been. But, we're very glad you didn't go on to an NFL career and even gladder that you are where you are, giving good commentary on BYU football. Go Cougs!!

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 6:37 a.m.

    Go with Rley. Bring Heaps in occasionally until his confidence and ability on the field dictate that he should be th full time.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 1:56 a.m.

    @perplexed

    "Go with Riley - after the haircut."

    No don't, the hair is the source of his power; he's like samson.

  • Square Kokonut Orem, Utah
    Oct. 4, 2011 1:20 a.m.

    Whatever the coaches decide, a rotating QB system doesn't work! It's either Heaps or Nelson as the starter. Up until being blindsided and fumbling during the Utah game, Nelson was moving the ball effectively, something Heaps hadn't been doing with any consistency at any point during that game. Whatever supposed shortcomings Nelson may have he more than makes up for with with his fierce gutsy playmaking which inspires and elevates the play of all his teammates! How long will Heaps be a 'work in progress?' Nelson's maturity and fearless, competitive spirit more than compensate for any supposed superior skills Heaps may possess. Does anyone really believe for a second we'd have beaten USU last friday night with Heaps lined up behind center on the 2-yard of that final winning drive? Perfectly thrown spirals do not win games! Let Nelson at least start and finish this next game, he's earned that much!

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Oct. 4, 2011 12:24 a.m.

    BYU and the fans and coaches have a dilenma to solve. One quarterback with a big arm but fear in his eyes, and the other who charges into freight trains. Maybe they should be training each other with the aid of psychologists.

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 11:28 p.m.

    I really can't stand these insight article from former Cougars. No disrespect intended to them personally, but who cares what they think? And as much as I respect Vai and like his style can the Des News find writers instead of players from BYU's past? It bores me.

  • RGinSG Saint George, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 11:11 p.m.

    I think BYU's comeback says more about the rest of the BYU team than it does about the quarterback. Where was the effort during the first part of the game? How could the receivers suddenly make spectacular catches? How could the line suddenly open holes?

    I'm more disappointed in the lack of effort by the rest of the team than in the quarterback play. And if you say it's a matter of leadership, then where are the veteran leaders who should be able to motivate other to play hard from the start.

    I'm glad we won, but will still be doubtful until I see a better overall TEAM effort.

  • zeba North Ogden, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 11:05 p.m.

    Riley deserves the start, he earned it. If he struggles, after two quarters if they have not scored more than Heaps season average... Then give someone else a try.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 3, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    Nice article.

    It doesn't matter which one starts against SJSU. This one is a BYU win no matter who plays. So the question is, who are you trying to make the foundation of your team.

    Riley did a legendary job in leading the cougs back against Utah State. He would likely do a nice job against Idaho, Idaho State, and New Mexico State as well. The question is who gives you a better shot against the good teams.

    I think that's Heaps.

    Heaps will get his confidence back putting up late-2010-like numbers against the Spartans.

    But if Bronco goes with Nelson, he'll keep the fan base until Riley chokes on the road against a winless Beaver team.

    Patience or desparation?

    It's up to you coach.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 9:39 p.m.

    Aside from the dismal completion rating, turnovers, interceptions, fumbles etc. Heaps was on fire, gotta love that one JohnJacobjingleHeimerSchmidt. Classic...LOL...

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Oct. 3, 2011 7:39 p.m.

    All you Nelson people will eat your words if BYU plays anyone with a decent defense. Mr. scrambling QB got his clock handed to him by the Utes. The USU defense is a proven lead blower. Then we will see the return of the hair criticism once he starts coughing up the ball again. Lucky does not equal good. Heaps was doing a great job...aside from the fumbles and interceptions and red zone futility. Plus the BYU defense gives up a lot of offense to a freshman quarterback n the WAC.

  • yourstruly PAUL, ID
    Oct. 3, 2011 7:07 p.m.

    I echo Paul Shoemakers insights. Riley deserves to play until he stubs his feet whether that be a quarter or most of the season but as Paul surely indicated he expects Jake to be a very good quarterback and be the qb.of the future as he recognizes that he brings skills to the position that few quarterbacks have.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 6:33 p.m.

    If every Ute poster, and every "new" BYU poster says Riley, I think we should bend the other way, and stick with Heaps.

    Go with talent over a huge heart, and weak ability.

    Riley would have had no shot at 4th quarter heroics without the guys that hung in there for three quarters. Uteology could have put on a helmet and did what Riley did.

    Bronko's weakness is not saying. That's pretty weak, not standing behind your guy.

    But, then, again, Utah is tearing up the PAC Xii....

    How many BCS team has Utah beat this year?

  • Stackhouse paradise, nv
    Oct. 3, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    One thing Riley has going for him is that he has Doman for his OC. Hear me out on this one. Doman was a similar type player when he played. He was a gifted runner more than a natural passer. When you can run it like Nelson can and Doman did it opens up the pass because people have to respect all aspects of your game. People cant just camp out in the secondary to defend the pass like they did with Heaps in there. I would tend to believe Doman would have an easier time coming up with successful plays that would be conducive to Nelsons style of play based on their similarities

  • Benderman1 Layton, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 5:19 p.m.

    I don't get how so many people can say "bench Heaps for a few games and let Nelson play." When would you bring back Heaps, when Riley struggles? Do you really think eaither QB is going to struggle against their remaining schedule? Whoever you put in now will likely be the starter for the rest of this year and into next. So ask yourselves, who has the greater potential for wins against next year's tough opponents? We've all seen what Nelson can (or can't do) and he is not going to get any better. Heaps will. My vote is for the coaching staff to stick with their committment to Heaps and use this easier schedule to help him develope. The coaches need to demonstrate confidence in him during the tough times if they expect him to have any confidence. He's not going to improve much on the bench. In fact, I'd love to see Lark get a little playing time. Nelson should only be used situationally. That's the only type of QB he will ever be.

  • hamaca Baton Rouge, LA
    Oct. 3, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    Four quarterbacks. Four quarters per game. Play each quarterback one quarter. Start Heaps. Lark plays the second quarter. Munns plays the third quarter. Then Riley comes in, changes it all up, and does his thing on a tired defense.

  • whatnext Clearfield, Utah
    Oct. 3, 2011 4:50 p.m.

    There have been some comments made about the play calling of Brandon Doman as being the problem. I'm not so sure. Look at what types of plays were being called while Riley was in the game compared to when Heaps was in the game. I don't beleive the play calling change much, I think it has more to do with the confidence in the quarterback. Riley went out and made things happen where Jake struggled due to his lack of confidence. The coach may call the plays but if the quarterback does not exicute the play it can be perceived as the coach not mixing it up and calling plays that will get the team moving. I say lets give Coach Doman a break and see what happens under a new quarterback.

  • Frozen Chosen Savage, MN
    Oct. 3, 2011 4:23 p.m.

    So Heaps had to play the hard part of the schedule and now you put Nelson in for the patsies? Sounds fair to me.

    I'm afraid I don't trust the BYU coaches to make the right decision here. In my opinion they have had a worse year than Heaps. The play calling has been abysmal and they appear to have lost the players at various points in the season.

    BYU isn't going anywhere this year so they need to do whatever will make them better next year, whether it means playing Heaps or Lark (Nelson is NOT the answer!)

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Oct. 3, 2011 4:17 p.m.

    I agree, play Riley until he gets hurt. He's already banged up from last year, if he keeps playing like this, he won't last the season. Too bonzai.

    Meantime, Heapes can watch and learn. Maybe run a series every now and then.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 4:13 p.m.

    I'm going with Bronco. He knows the players involved, the needs for next game/season and he has the responsibility for the call. Heaps does not have a problem, his father does. Let him get over that and his talent will show through.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    Talent vs. Heart

    The only problem is Heaps can't access his talent at the moment because he's in a "brain-fry". Call it Steve Sax Syndrome. He's mentally fried...zero confidence. If you sit him, you probably condemn him to the mental block for good. If you play him, it might take two years to play out of it.

    I feel bad for the kid because I'm sure he'd do anything he could to fix the problem. Play Riley until he gets hurt...because he will get hurt running like a chicken with his head cut off. Then let Heaps finish up. Plan on a 7-6 season and hope you're surprised with good things.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Oct. 3, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    Is this really a point of discussion? Nelson has more TD passes in 1/2 of football that heaps put together in 3 games.

  • jrm225 EVANSTON, WY
    Oct. 3, 2011 3:41 p.m.

    I think Lark should get his shot. He looked good in fall practice and pushed Riley for the backup. He runs well and is big and accurate. I think he should get a shot. He is a combo of both and BYU thought at one point he was the guy they wanted to recruit and not Riley. I feel bad for him since he now sits behind Riley.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 3:34 p.m.

    I like to see other former QB insights. I always believe Lavell Edward does not like freshmen/sophmore to be starters for QB position. He said young players need to observe before taking the snap. Yes, he did start Ty Detmer very early and it turned out the best thing he ever did. Of course Ty did made many mistakes on his first game against Wyo in the air but he stuck with him after that. My thought on SJSU - Heaps will start and if he failed again then Bronco will insert Nelson right at the start of 2nd half.

  • Terry Sandy, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    Heaps has a stronger arm, but that means the receivers can't adjust to get to it when it is off even slightly (comes in like a bullet) and he has been off a lot more than slightly for most of the season. Riley throws it well enough and not so fast that the receivers can't adjust to get to it as proven last Friday, plus the guy can run and he has that "IT" leadership factor that all the players have seemed to rally behind. If you don't go with Nelson and at least give him a shot in the next game or two to show he can keep it up, you will have a lot of fans lose faith in the coaching staff! Go Cougars!

  • SportsFan101 Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    Go with Heaps. It entertains me to see the drama and losses he brings. Classic "practice" player.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Oct. 3, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    Riley or Heaps? That is not even debatable! Riley Nelson is the better quarterback! I've been saying this since last year. Hypes is way over his head. He needs to come back to earth. If I were the byu coaches, I would put Jake on the bench and Riley starting and salvage what's left of the season. People may argue Jake has more potential than Riley! I completely disagree. The fans and coaches only see this because Jake has a strong arm, and he was supposedly "highly recruited". The problem with Jake is he lacks the "Touch" a quarterback needs to put on the ball for his receivers to catch. Notice how many drop balls that were thrown by Jake? He riffles the ball! He is completely inaccurate with his passes that are longer than 15 yards. The last problem he has, he doesn't know how to read a defense. He has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns.

    Riley, is a tough running quarterback who isn't afraid to get hit (unlike Jake). Riley is more accurate with his passes, and most importantly for a quarterback, he is a leader! Riley was the reason byu beat USU.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 2:45 p.m.

    @Naval Vet | 1:45 p.m. Oct. 3, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    ===

    Brother, after all the smack, that was just a brilliant post.

    No kidding.

    I disagree, but from a Utah point of view, that was hilarious!

  • vesparider Pocatello, ID
    Oct. 3, 2011 2:33 p.m.

    Anybody remember Doman being the hero at the end of the 2000 season and making sure LaVell didn't go out with a losing season? He made such an impression on the new hc Gary Crowton that he named him the starter over Engemann the next fall. Said it was the leadership and I believe Crowton tweaked his offense somewhat to take advantage of Doman's skills as a runner and play maker. If Nelson gets the start I would hope that they call some plays to his skill set. The biggest problem I see is there is no Luke Staley to hand the ball off to.

  • SoCalTrueBlue2 San Diego, CA
    Oct. 3, 2011 2:03 p.m.

    A pure pocket passer with poor scrambling skills (i.e., Jake Heaps) sometimes must wait for his receiver to separate from the defender before throwing the ball. This often results in the QB taking a hit from a pass rushing defender just after releasing the pass.
    Jake's biggest problem is throwing too soon, apparently out of fear from being hit, before the receiver has achieved separation. When Jake learns to take 5-6 hits a game, for the team, in exchange for key completed passes, he will earn the respect of the entire offense.
    Jake needs to learn to play for the moment, not for preserving a future NFL career; otherwise that career will never happen.

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    I don't think we have really seen enough of Riley to know how well he can throw the ball. Last year he was playing with an injured shoulder so I don't think it would be fair to say he doesn't have a good arm from what we've seen last year.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    The QB conundrum is really quite simple. Start Nelson - since he's the better signal caller - OR start Heaps IF he hires a better publicist. Remember, it's all about exposure. And the WORLD will be watching the cougars' EPIC showdown vs. San Jose State. Now THAT's what I call, "must see TV".

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    The real question is...and has been since the start of the season, is how is Doman going to call the game. While I am in favor of starting Nelson and have never really been a Heaps believer, just waiting for him to show it on the field, it really comes back to Doman. You can see that Heaps has struggled in Doman's conservative and strange play calling and that Doman has not really done much to adjust or help him, so what is he going to do with Nelson? Have him run it every down? If Doman can adjust and have Nelson run maybe 5 times a game, max, then I think they'll be okay (contrary to most opinions Nelson really can throw the ball it's just that he hasn't had much of a chance) but if Doman goes into it with the idea of running every play and then trying to throw on 3rd down then we'll see the same ole 10-16 pt/game offense.

    We'll see how fast the rookie OC can adjust.

  • Perplexed Las Cruces, New Mexico
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    Go with Riley - after the haircut. :-) If he falters, Heaps can come in and have everyone pulling for him to play up to the hype. Otherwise, the pressure will be too great to perform well, with his thinking, after every errant pass that the fans would rather see Riley in. Coaches always say, "it is what happens on the field between the whistles that counts". Well here is a clear cut case.

    Go Riley! If you falter, Jake will be backing you up!

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:39 p.m.

    If we were playing 7 on 7 without pads, I'd go with Heaps. But we are not. Riley, then Lark, then Munns, then Heaps. That's what's been earned by the four.

  • DodgerDoug Salem, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:33 p.m.

    Great insight Paul! It's nice to hear the opinions of forner Cougars! Thanks!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    A Ute fans take.

    The positives for Heaps are a big arm and good size. The negatives on him right now are lagging mental development, low confidence, and an obvious lack of respect from his teammates.

    Riley has negatives with an inaccurate weak arm being at the forefront. Still, despite being an ugly practice performer, this Nelson cat is a gamer. Being under fire gets his juices going.

    Heaps on the other hand looks scared to take a hit in the pocket.

    Riley has a leadership advantage over Heaps. Just look at the plays BYU's WRs were making for Riley that they didn't with Heaps.

    With Nelson, tucking and running with the ball all of the time will taper off the success ratio as soon as a defense forces Riley to pass. Still, Riley might jump start a moxy for BYU's offense that might be able to be maintained with their schedule to come.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    Excellent insight from the author of this article! I agree that the cougs start Nelson. If he maintains the momentum he had on Friday night let him continue. We are now entering the weaker portion of the schedule so I would expect Nelson to lead the cougs to some serous blow out games. If so, let heaps come in to mop up. He still gets game experience but doesn't have to bear the brunt of winning or losing.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    Nelson's hail mary was a floating duck, and his TD pass was deflected.

    If BYU can count on Nelson getting lucky on every passing play, and suprising the other teams DC with a QB draw 3 of every 4 plays, I say Nelson 100%.

    If not, you give the ball to your talent.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Oct. 3, 2011 1:10 p.m.

    You have courage, Paul, to voice your opinion that Riley should now be given a chance. But I think you're right. I disagree, however, that Heaps won the starting role after head-to-head competition last year, because Riley was still in the mix until he got injured.

    While you saw the parallel to what happened to you, I saw a parallel to what happened with Steve Young. When asked to take over the starting role for the first time (for an injured Jim McMahon) Steve came in with his left-handed flutter passes and running ability. Like Riley, he engineered a win against Utah State when it looked as though BYU might lose. Given enough chances to throw the football, I think Riley would develop into a good passer just like Steve Young. Then we might just forget about Jake Heaps for another year and BYU will be able to string together 3 or 4 seasons of great QB play, without trying out every guy on the roster.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Oct. 3, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    Jake's problem is mental. He has been picked off and had other problems. He has over corrected and the pressure he is under had not made it any easier.

    Ride the Riley momentum, let the pressure off of Jake. Riley will develop well and Jake will also develop. Riley might even get noticed by the NFL.

    Jake will be great given time.

    This is a win-win-win situation. Jake, Riley and BYU will be the better for this.

  • relientk Lindon, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 12:54 p.m.

    Nelson has the trust and confidence of the team which may be the most important piece to the puzzle right now. And everyone should check out the "Ode to Riley Nelson's Hair" on Youtube.

  • Lincoln Coug Lincoln, NE
    Oct. 3, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    Nelson has the momentum and has earned a chance to start the next game. I see this as a chance to light a fire under Heaps. After all, Heaps has been, in my opinion, the weakest link on the team the past few games. He's overthrown wide open receivers and forced other throws. Bench Heaps for a couple games and, hopefully, he'll rise up to the challenge and retake the starting spot. That's ultimately what every Cougar fan wants to see happen as he's the future. Until then, let's roll with Nelson and a reinvigorated offense.

  • BlueSaint South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 12:37 p.m.

    who needs an arm when you've got flowing hair? I say go with RILEY!!

  • chubbuckidahocougfan Chubbuck, Idaho
    Oct. 3, 2011 12:37 p.m.

    Here's a better insight....Try Lark or Munns! We've both seen how this story plays out with Heaps and nelson. It's called 7-6 seasons.

  • A_Chinese_American Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 12:26 p.m.

    Good point! Use Nelson until BYU really need Heaps.