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Published: Sunday, Oct. 2 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Wasatch/Heber, UT

Tough loss for Utah. Can't wait for Basketball season in the PAC 12.


With schools like Washington, Washington St., UCLA, USC, and UA, all touted as big boys, to compete against on a regular basis, I bet the UofU and Colorado both wished standings were listed alphabetically instead of by wins and losses....

There's always next year for that Big-12 championship, i guess?

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

"Washington is only a middle of the pack team in the PAC-12."

...yes they are...but with Sarkesien at the helm they are rising very fast from where they were two years ago. Utah's loss yesterday was to a very improved Huskie team. UCLA will be the only South PAC team that won't be a real challenge to the Utes. If Wynn is lost for the season then even they will be too.

South Jordan, UT

Seeing that the Utes hadn't won a outright Conference championship while being a member of the WAC and MTN West in like 50+ yrs, I don't expect them to see ROSES anytime soon.

Iowa City, IA

The season is over for Utah, the may not even go bowling. The defense got shredded by a average offense and the offense has never really had a motor this year. Wynn out, seasons over. Maybe a win over OSU.

Colorado Springs, CO

As a BYU fan I was hoping the Utes did well this season (and they still might) but it doesn't look good. I wanted them to show that many non-bcs teams could make an impact in the big conferances. How the Utes do could effect whether other BCS conferances invite non-bcs schools to join them in the future.

All that said I was glad to see the Utes get a piece of humble pie after their fans became so arrogant two weeks ago. Pretty hard to do anything with that many turnovers in a game. Take into consideration BYU had two more and the differance is about the same. Here's hoping they can bounce back though just as BYU did and make it to a bowl. I think the conferance championship is now out of the question.

Bottom Line
Draper, UT

Next week is a critical game. A loss against ASU and the wheels will be off.

Price, UT

A bit of karma? Didn't Wynn say "that's like a video game" describing BYU's 7 turnovers against Utah? Looks like Washington prepared by playing the same video game. Were the Utes diluted enough to believe the BYU game was anything more than a fluke? (not that they won, just how the game went) Best as I can tell, the games were eerily similar. Utah is not as bad as they showed. Washington is not as good as they showed. Anything can happen on any given Saturday. I do wish the Utes good luck in the Pac-12 and feel they're better than they've shown. I want success for all Utah football. But I can't say I feel bad about yesterday's loss given their arrogant comments following the Y game. Karma anyone?

Orem, UT

I can remember when ASU and U of A went into the Pac12. It was several years before the programs built up enough to be competitive. Be patient Utah. If BYU goes to the Big 12, they'll have a few years to look forward too.

Big J
Bountiful, UT


Utah won outright conference championships in 2004 and 2008. Your memory must be real bad.

As for the Utes, they will compete in the Pac-12. This year could turn out to be a learning experience but it is still great to be in the Pac 12. You have to play better teams to be a better team.

To say WA is middle of the PAC, may be an understatement. It is still too early to know. It sure was great hosting them at RES. I love the better quality of teams the Utes will be playing week in and out. Give me tough schedules every year.

It is great to be a Pac 12 Ute! To all the haters, enjoy your envy.

Go Utes!


How hard is it to go from a big fish in a small pool (mwc) to a little minnow in the ocean (pac12)? Stay tuned.

PAC 12 loves U
Sandy, Utah

@ BlueSaint

"Seeing that the Utes hadn't won a outright Conference championship while being a member of the WAC and MTN West in like 50+ yrs, I don't expect them to see ROSES anytime soon."

Umm..... Utah won an outright conference championship in 2003, 2004, and 2008. Where have you been? 3 conference titles in recent years. Utah will win a Pac-12 championship and smell the roses as soon as we get the depth and talent needed to compete with the upper teams in the conference. It will be few years to recruit that talent, but I know Utah has the best coaches in the conference.

At least Utah is in a league where they have an opportunity to play in a Rose Bowl, unlike that certain team down south that can only play for a Helicopter Bowl, next year the Macaroni and Cheese Bowl.


Ha Ha, no I'm not laughing at your Utes loss, but the fact that all the bantering is between Utah football faithful.

Welcome to the world of big conference football and the Pac 12. We may not be the strongest conference this year, but we certainly are a good and storied one. The Utes will win games and they will lose some, and perhaps not even to the ones they are supposed to. You will find a weird parity in the Pac 12 where any team can provide a whipping to another member regardless of record on any given day.

UW may be middle of the pack in some peoples eyes, but from where they were before Sark arrived I would say they are on their way back to UDUB football of old, so getting beat on shouldn't make Utahs fans feel any less than the new kid on the block.

Welcome to your first conference spanking and enjoy life in the Pac 12

Springville, UT

@BigRich....and guess what....Arizona has never been to the Rose Bowl and ASU has been there 2 times....Last time in 1997.


I was surprised when I saw Utah fans, and worse even Utah reporters, think Utah was going to just waltz into the Pac and win the South. Granted, Utah has the easiest conference schedule, but this is not the MWC. See you in SF where you get another dose of reality. Go Bears!

wyoming cougar
Green River, WY

@ pac 10.2 loves u:

Yes, but playing in any bowl game is better than no bowl game at all. (But I guess your bowl game this year was beating BYU, right? Just like back in the good old days).

I didn't see the game, but it sounds like it was extremely similar to the BYU game, but the utes were on the wrong end of this one. An early turnover for a score, then 2 more turnovers on good drives, even deep in enemy territory. Then in the 2nd half the defense ends up spending the whole half on the field, and gets run over.

I think both of utah's last 2 games could be replayed, & both would end up being closer games (maybe the same team losing, but not in blowout fashion). Sometimes things just all go wrong.

After the comments from utah fans and players after the BYU game, all I can say is that it's nice when what goes around, comes around.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

We knew the Pac 12 would be tough, but we can still have success. A few prayers for John Hays right now wouldn't hurt.

Saint George, UT

Now that everyone is "paying attention" as a result of watching the UTES get worked by Washington;


Oregon and Stanford represent the Gold Standard, of the PAC-12.

When Jim Harbaugh was the HC, at Stanford, Stanford won every game, every year.


Jim Harbaugh came to Stanford, from the University of San Diego, in 2007.

Prior to the 2007 season, Stanford enjoyed the following success:

2003 4-7
2004 4-7
2005 5-6
2006 1-11

Harbaugh's record, at Stanford, was as follows:

2007 4-8
2008 5-7
2009 8-4
2010 11-1

Harbaugh was in his fourth season, in the PAC-12, before he enjoyed the type of success all schools work hard to obtain.

It will take UTAH, at least, 3 years to have a reasonable shot at getting back to the 10+ win seasons of the past 5 years.

4-8 this year, followed by 6-6, followed by 8-4 would be a realistic progression of expectation.

If the team surprises fans by exceeding expectations, so much the better.

Support the coaches and team while they are building to become competitive in the PAC 12.


Ricardo Carvalho
Provo, UT

Washington is a strong team. The U had an off game. If Wynn can recover, the U will be ok I suspect. If not, the introduction to the PAC-12 will be frustrating. Here is hoping that Mr. Hays will mature in hurry!

bountiful, ut

Who are the two teams Utah will beat? Won't be Pittsburg, won't be ASU, won't be UCLA or California or Washington State.... Won't even be the lowly dogs of Colorado. After watching 4 games I would say that if there is a guaranteed win it is only against winless OSU. Oh, could it be Arizona? Arizona and Oregon State? Yeah! What a dynamite socks knocking off season! Thanks Utes!

To say that other conferences will even pay a lick of attention to how poorly Utah does this season in making their decision to expand with non-AQ schools is simple ignorance at its finest.

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