Tomahawk and rock on,You two have my permanent disrespect.What rock on said is not true. Fact, Utah on the upswing, Fact, BYU on the
downswing. I could mention all the reasons that every fan of college
football knows, but I will let you two continue to be in the dark. If you have not noticed what's been going on in the world of college football
in the past two decades, why start now?P.S. I know both of you think
that BYU going independent is some how relevant in the world of college football
and it that it is an equal move to getting Invited to the PAC 12?? Ha.
At laser,No, everything utah fans said about byu and byu fans is
still true. you just helped support that.Utah now got "blown
out" because of turnovers... Uh, yes geting "blow out" by 16 pts
is the same thing as getting BLOWN OUT by 44 points (which was really at least
47 if utah kicks a field goal instead of kneeling on the ball in the red zone,
or at least 54 if they continue to hand the ball off to john White).The tearm "blown out" is meant for what happend to the Y: 54-10. Holding a Washington team to 34 points and a 16pt margin, after having
to use a back up QB with ne experience,and turning the ball over 5 times (1 for
a td, and two inside the 10 Washington 10 yd line), is actualy not bad.BYU did not have their QB out of the game. BYU did not have ANY turnovers
inside the UTAH 10yd line (in other words they were never going to score!).BYU got blown out by 44 catching all kinds of breaks. Nice try though.
Come on Utah fans, you knew Wynn wasn't going to make it. I hate saying this,
but everytime things get tough and the Utes look like they are over matched,
Wynn seems to come out with an injury, why? I have been saying this before the
season even started, that by the 3rd, or 4th game Wynn would either be injured,
or get replaced. He had surgery on his shoulder, not his heart. That been his
problem the entire time. Utah is in a much better place now that Hays has his
chance and will practice with the 1st team all week. I actually think Utah now
has a chance to win the south because of this. I wish Wynn the best, but
starting QB is not his forte. I hope a quick recovery, but I think this is it
for his career Utah fans.
sammyg | 12:39 p.m. Oct. 2, 2011 Springville, UTOuch and very
unfortunate. Good luck Jordan in your recovery. Sorry Ute team, play your best
and encourage your new starter.----------I'll admit that
I'm on your case a lot, and sometimes deservedly so. But I am pleased to see
this comment from you.Thanks for the class in not laughing at Wynn's
injury, as many Y fans are doing. And thanks for recognizing the best course of
action for our team... rallying behind Jon Hays.I'll remember this
CougarBlue | 9:00 a.m. Oct. 2, 2011 Heber City, UTWow, that is going
to make it tough on the Utes. I was hoping they could run the table this year.
Will be truly interesting to see how the backup does.---------You are correct. I, for one, am atypically interested to see how good
Hays might be. His teammates like him, the coaches like him, and he may bring a
different style of leadership to this team.There is every
possibility that Hays will fill in nicely until Wynn comes back... or wins the
starter job outright.We will see. I, for one, can't wait to see how
he does against the Devils next week.
One question? what was the attendance when the score was 31-7, did the fans
stay, unlike the BYU fans when the Utes were killing them?
RockOn | 8:30 a.m. Oct. 2, 2011 Spanish Fork, UTTough loss for the
Utes. Losing is quite a good thing for BYU and Utah as it quells the fires of
arrogance we (and other sports fans) are quite good at. When BYU used to
regularly destroy Utah, too many of my fellow Cougar fans would declare we had a
superior program (we did then) and the Utes were in a permanent decline
(nonsense). When Utah clobbered BYU this year it humbled BYU and put the Utes
into an arrogant posture about how BYU was no in permanent decline. Equally
nonsensical. They will be back. ------------What a great
post.You got my permanent respect.
Laser | 7:51 a.m. Oct. 2, 2011 Iowa City, IAWay to go Scott! I love
how he answered the question about BYU (reporter looking for an official dig)
with "certainly". The only people who can't see BYU for what it is are
utah fans. --------I'm having trouble believing you.You're cheering our conference commissioner, who completely dissed you
guys last year by inviting Utah... and even dissed you again in his response to
the reporter's question.Scott said, they would be an attractive
option to any conference. Notice how he didn't say "BYU is an attractive
option for our conference."I really can't believe you think
that's a compliment to BYU. Larry Scott wants no part of you guys, now or
ever.But I gotta laugh that you actually think he was praising BYU
@Laser- turnovers are part of the game. The U took advantage of everything the Y
gave them as good teams should. We got beat around last night, and although the
fumbled kickoff and the two fumbles in the redzone really sucked. We just got
beat by the better team last night. Just like the Y did a few weeks ago. No
excuses from this U fan, we just need to play harder and stay tough mentally.
@ Bleed Crimson I would sure like the coaching staff we have on the hill
stay put for a few years and keep bringing that talent into the program. Those
guys playing learned a lesson last night that you can't tackle in the PAC 12
like you would in the MWC or others will run right through you. Hays
actually looked pretty good once he warmed up and Chow will run plays that suit
his strength. I'm sure not going into death bed panic mode if the Utes
should go 7-5 or even 6-6 this year but become bowl eligible so that the Ute
logo is out on the air waves post season. P.S. Devonte Christopher was
also an all region QB in Las Vegas.Blechen was the nations 12th ranked
dual threat QB in the nation.
This was one game I had as questionable and I thought if we won it would be
close. Too bad about Wynn. I think losing him was the key to our lack of
offensive production in the second hald. Hays is goig to have to learn fast,
but we've seen it happen before.
All the rivalry fan banter back and forth and here the Utes are as several
predicted... Wynn is out again and NO real backup QB talent in the wings.Ouch and very unfortunate. Good luck Jordan in your recovery. Sorry Ute
team, play your best and encourage your new starter.So predictable
and so unnecessary. Hard pill to swallow but the BYU backup changed a game and
maybe a season. Coaches did a big disservice to the Ute program this year
leaving it so exposed.Hope Hays can develop, what an opportunity for
a JC transfer from a program that no longer exists? Wow, that could be a
story... or not.
Shreve was getting a fair amount of press in the spring. His name's on the
roster. Did get injured, become ineligible or leave the program? The season
admittedly looks like it could be long. The Utes have athletes that have played
the position (Robles, Blechen) and were recruited as QB's. Is Brian willing to
burn a potential all-american shot to help the team by switching back? Wildcat
with him could be an option at a minimum? Is the O line disciplined enough to
handle the change in cadence under this type of improvisation. Reilly had to
come up with the "duck" a while back. What's in the dusty pages of
Chow's playbook?Hays perhaps settled down late in the game, or it
could have been Udub calling off the "dogs". I expect the team to
rebound. It's been a while since they've had a "UNLV" (Boise State,
TCU and ND last year notwithstanding).
I feel for Wynn! To have an injury that prevents us from reaching our potential
can be devastating; personally as well as publicly. I wish him only the best,
and a quick and full recovery.
Utah fans really shouldn't have high expectations for our first year. Utah lacks
depth and the offensive line is weak compared to other Pac-12 schools. It is
going to take a few years to recruit and get that depth. This is a year where we
know where we'll stand at the end of the season and we can improve on that. Utah
will be a great Pac-12 member in years to come. I have no doubt we have the best
coaches in the league. We just need to get that Pac-12 talent. Go
As we sat in the stands and saw Hays come out in the second half we did not know
what had happened to Wynn. I feel bad that he is hurt again. I thought he was
playing very well and the offense was moving the ball. Get well soon.No excuses here or from the Utes. You have to win with the players you have. I
thought Hays played well considering he was thrown into the fire.A
week with the first team and he will be fine.Go Utes!
The worst case scenario at the start of the season was Bergstrom going down and
then Wynn going down because our best player isn't there protecting him. Well
that didn't take long to become a reality.
Heaps might be available!Sorry, couldn't resist. I sincerely wish
Wynn a speedy recovery and the Utes a great season. Everyone knew it would be
tough the first year or two in a BCS conference. I'm a Coug, but I love the Utes
too and cheer for them almost always. I admit to being proud of
Sarkisian...another old cougar.Good luck Utes!
niners | 11:47 p.m. Oct. 1, 2011 SAINT GEORGE, UT Do you think
that the SF 49ers and Alex Smith will finally put it together this year? They
have been killing me since they got rid of Garcia (blamed a good QB instead of
the coach/bad team).
Wow, that is going to make it tough on the Utes. I was hoping they could run
the table this year. Will be truly interesting to see how the backup does.
Tough loss for the Utes. Losing is quite a good thing for BYU and Utah as it
quells the fires of arrogance we (and other sports fans) are quite good at. When
BYU used to regularly destroy Utah, too many of my fellow Cougar fans would
declare we had a superior program (we did then) and the Utes were in a permanent
decline (nonsense). When Utah clobbered BYU this year it humbled BYU and put the
Utes into an arrogant posture about how BYU was no in permanent decline. Equally
nonsensical. They will be back. Seeing Utah lose a fumble that
Washington returned for a TD was kind of poetic justice seeing as how they were
the recipient of a similar gift from BYU the previous game. The more
things change, the more they remain the same.Hope Wynn can recover
and toughen up for his sake and hope Heaps can learn not to believe his own
press he creates.
After all of the talk I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I wish the utes
good luck but also remember all of the hoopla when arizona and arizona state
The chances of the Utes winning the south division just went out the window. I
predict a loss next week and the fans will follow the chances of winning the
Way to go Scott! I love how he answered the question about BYU (reporter
looking for an official dig) with "certainly". The only people who
can't see BYU for what it is are utah fans. Brings up the question
though, why are questiong being asked about BYU at a U/UW game? Now
that Utah got blown out at home because of turnovers, does that mean everything
they said about BYU is now true about them?
That's a tough injury ... hopefully it isn't as bad as the injury last year to
his right shoulder. Hope to see him back in the lineup soon.
Tough loss for Utah. Can't wait for Basketball season in the PAC 12.
@majmajorI wish more fans (utah,and byu) were more like you. I have
noticed and appreciated your comments, you are a classy person.
I wish Wynn a speedy recovery. May you be able to return and play well (except
against the Cougs).
This is troubling for sure. However, I still think the winning the South
Division is very doable. We were given a huge gift by avoiding the two powers
of Stanford and Oregon. With USC out of the picture, I still think it comes
down to the Utah Arizona State game next week. Arizona State is struggling right
now against a very bad Oregon State team.If any coach can get it
done, it's Kyle. Beat ASU, and the division(and spot in inaugural pac 12
championship game) is ours.Get better Jordan!