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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 28 2011 10:48 p.m. MDT

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binghamalum
South Jordan, UT

you people are funny!

How can you think this is a just a simple way of letting the kid play right?

He left his Area of Lone Peak for a private school, why should he be allowed to play since he is going back to a public school???

No difference there, and also people understand, HE LEFT LONE PEAK and decided on wanting to play right away at Waterford, its that simple, and then he matured, grew a little, and now can compete at Lone Peak, so now its convenient for him to stay home, when its his own fault for leaving, he should not be allowed to play because he actually lives there, that is irrelevant because now it fits him perfect, so cause its where he lives now, its no problem right??

Wrong, if UHSAA allowed that, I will send my kids to JD for 2 years, but we live in South Jordan, so after they play there, come back, mature taller bigger and now we can play for Bingham. Ya right...

HS Sports Guru
West Jordan, UT

"Thinking Deeper" The fact that you think that a private school kid should be able to come and go to a public school at will makes absolutely no sense. When a student picks a school to tryout for, whether he thinks he can make it or not, makes that school his. Private or public shouldn't matter because both types of schools get good athletes and private schools aren't and shouldn't be training facilities for future public school players. Also, you don't think public schools coach and train 9th graders too? That comment also makes no sense. Rob and Kevin were spot on and could see it was basketball related 100%

Proud to be American
West Jordan, UT

What is more interesting to me is the fact that a kid from Skyline is allowed to transfer to West Jordan - because he did not like who Skyline hired as their new basketball coach. How on this earth can you not say that is an athletic motivated transfer? Spare me the "they are moving" argument. They are moving because of athletic reasons.

Further - how does the S. Sevier coach get a 5 game suspension for letting a kid play over the summer with his team, but West Jordan, Kearns, and Lone Peak do the exact same thing and nothing happens? C'mon UHSAA - no consistency at all!

fed up
Provo, UT

Have him transfer to Timpview. They will approve him even if he doesn't live in the boundaries

HS Sports Guru
West Jordan, UT

"Proud to be an American" First of all, I agree with you on the South Sevier coach being suspended was a joke because he actually got prior approval from the UHSAA to allow that kid to play but they suspended him anyway. I disagree with your comment about the skyline kid. He and his family did everything according to the UHSAA full-family transfer rules and whether it was basketball related or not doesn't matter. The rules are their for a reason and if a family doesn't like a coach so much that they are willing to pack everything and move, well then they must have really hated that coach bad.

williary
Kearns, UT

@binghamalum

You are looking at this particular case and basing your judgement on only this situation.

The facts are that hundreds of high school athletes around Utah are allowed each year to transfer to schools outside of their boundaries to play sports.

I believe what people are saying is that if the UHSAA is allowing kids to transfer out of boundary only to play sports, which they do regularly, why is this kid not being allowed to transfer back in his boundary just to play a sport? Completely backwards, IMO.

Play where you live. Should be the rule in Utah high school athletics. The truth is far from that. As a Bingham alum, your football team is a perfect example.

I played junior high basketball ball with a kid who was flat out recruited to play football for Brighton, he later played for BYU and the Eagles. He halfway moved in with a relative closer to the Brighton boundaries, and was not stopped from playing football @ Brighton. It goes on all the time, at many schools.

JustAnotherAverageGuy
Holladay, UT

There ought to be different rules for transferring back to your home school. Transferring away should be heavily scrutinized, but you ought to be allowed to come back and play where you live, even if it's for Lone Peak or any other school who happens to have a good program at the time. UHSAA should emphasize "play where you live" whenever possible.

Sports Guru: I disagree - the Jacksons have complied with the full family move rule in appearance only. I would bet you dollars to donuts they haven't left the old house yet, only the kid has. And as soon as basketball season is over, he'll be out of WJ in a heartbeat. (PS - should I be surprised that someone from WJ would agree with the UHSAA in this instance?)

BigBenzo88
Herriman, UT

This is the whole reason why Utah's open enrollment policy should be eliminated. This is a very strange case though. The fact that it involves the local school and a private school has made this more interesting. It would appear that the private school would have no boundaries so that anyone could attend it. If the family has now decided that attending this school has become too much...then obvious choice would be the local school.

I am very much against Utah's open enrollment...but I think the UHSAA made a mistake and the athlete should be allowed to transfer. The fact that this is a private school makes this a much different case....had it been a public school with defined boundaries...then I could understand blockin the transfer.

I hope more cases like this will show the UHSAA that open enrollment is hurting our young athletes more than it is helping. I have been in Utah for 6 years and still have not understood the reasoning behind open-enrollment and who it is supposed to benefit.

Most of the country plays in closed districts with the exceptions of private and parochial schools. Utah needs to do the same!

binghamalum
South Jordan, UT

I agree with all these cases, oh and I totally forgot about the Jayden Jackson kid being allowed to go to West Jordan, but that is a different case just so you know people, that family moved out to West Jordan, known fact because I know them,

So you have nothing to argue with the kids family moving him to better him for his athletic talent and gets to play with the best player in the state in Jordan Loveridge now. Look out for WJ and with the best Coach in state by far in basketball.

Still you should not be able to return right away to where your living because its now best suited for you, you choose as a freshman where you wanna go, right then and there you decide, so you incoming freshman, MAKE SURE you are making the right choice on where to go.

just fyi
American Fork, UT

Disagree with the "best coach in the state" comment. Quincy Lewis seems to have the more impressive track record

HS Sports Guru
West Jordan, UT

@ just an average guy

So you're telling me that only Jaden Jackson moved his stuff and is living in that house all by himself. Are you kidding me? that makes no sense whatsoever. So maybe you shouldn't be betting your dollars or donuts because you have no idea what you're talking about.

BYUBaby
Provo, UT

This is a hypocritical ruling. If the Mika family had been willing to lie about their financial situation and exagerate their "hardship" like the Hansen family did, Eric might be playing for LP this year. Amazing. A kid shouldn't be punished for wanting to go to the public school near his home. Completely different than transferring to the public school down the street and then deciding you want to come back. Hansen has been a huge asset to LP's football team, but I still don't think he should have been allowed to play last year. The really ironic thing is that Hansen will play the position Mika should be playing during the bball season.

Prep Fan 89
Draper, UT

Jaden Jackson played with West Jordan this off-season prior to officially moving to West Jordan. (They built a house)

Further, Jaden is still attending classes at Skyline High.

Bears Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

I agree that he shouldn't be able to play... What I have a problem with is the lack of consistancy through out. 1 kid is allowed to move and play and another is not... I feel like if we were to crack down and just start saying no to all the random transfers, then more would be less likely to go back and forth. Just wait, I don't think it is even close to ending. Look at how much the SL county kids transfer or the UT county kids transfer, and Now you have 3 schools in Tooele County, let's see how many of them transfer in the next few years.

ChickenKoop
LOGAN, UT

Cuff stood up to Lone Peak, Koop and Quincy? Wow! LP shouldnt need to recruit. Quincy, and his assistant coaches know, the only way a kid can play D1 basketball is if they go to LP. Eric, just go tear it up at Waterford and you will be just fine.

ucbballfan
Midway, UT

@ChickenKoop

You don't understand the transfer procedures. You have to enroll in the new school THEN you can apply for the athletic transfer. Eric Mika enrolled at LP during the last week of school in May and then submitted his transfer request. He can't go back to Waterford and play this year, so he has to sit out the full year if it holds up. Just so you're aware, Mika did not have the scholarship offers to Utah St. and Weber St. until he started playing with LP in the summer. So I guess being at Waterford wouldn't have worked out for him.

Mika will play at Lone Peak this year. Wait and see...

Also, the difference in Mika's case and the S. Sevier case is that Mika was enrolled in school before he played with LP during the summer. As I understand that wasn't the case with the S. Sevier kid.

Basketball
Orem, UT

to sit here and think that from one article you know the reason about why a kid transferred is beyond me. Lets start it all from te beginning, Eric Mika never LEFT lone peak. he never started at lone peak, or at a junior high, or at anything. He started elementary school at waterford, and has been going there ever since. Waterford has recently decided to end their seminary program, which has caused many kids in the area to leave the school and attend somewhere else. In the case, Eric Mika decided to go to his public high school. what you are trying to say is that if he would have lived in draper, and then moved to alpine it would have all be okay. but since he already lived in alpine, then he shouldnt be allowed to play. that is stupid. The only reason that UHSAA is stopping this move is because it is a good basketball player, and he is transferring to LP. He will play for LP this year, guaranteed.
PS..............Quincy is BY FAR the best coach in UT. Check the stats. And nick emery is the best player, reigning 5A MVP

KRY
South Jordan, UT

I don't understand, So does the kid go back and play with Waterford while he attends Lone Peak?

I really think this sucks for this Kid. Lets not lie he has basketball offers for college and will receive more offers by playing for LP. They travel back East for Tournaments and receive alot of exposure for basketball. He will not receive as many scholarship offers if he plays for Waterford.

As parents we try and do the best for our kids and give them every opportunity to succeed in life. They sent him to Waterford for the education and want to send him to LP for the Basketball Exposure why not. The UHSAA may have hurt this kids chances of receiving a scholarship because they want to make High School sports fair.

Life is not fair, kids like this are better and will have opportunities others will not because of his talent. Live with it.

UHSAA needs to be careful because guys like Loveridge, Jackson, Haws, Emery, Mika will not need high school basketball and will play AAU only.

kdubb
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Tough call and some good points raised. It does look like the young man wanted to be able to play immediately at a great private school and now that he has grown and can play with the best, that is the new approach. Definitely don't think he was officially recruited but Lone Peak did need a center and all of a sudden they have one. The fact that the siblings are attending Waterford still does raise a red flag. Not sure if they are athletes. Agree that should have known the situation at Waterford before going there. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

aficionado
Sandy, UT

Some of you guys are such charlatans. I go to Waterford. I'm in Eric's grade. I've known Eric since 4th grade. Fourth grade. Did you hear that? 4th grade! He went to Waterford in 4th grade. How / why would his parents put him in waterford for basketball in 4th grade? When Waterford isn't even good at basketball? They didn't. He went to Waterford to get an education.

And to those of you that said that his parents are pulling him out of a great great school. Yeah, have you ever sent your kids to waterford? During middle school? High school? I seriously doubt you have. You have NO IDEA what the time commitment is. Early morning seminary. wake up at 5 30 every morning. go to bed at 11 45 every night.

And then to work out and practice and play games? that's so much work.

You have no idea what's it like to do that much homework and try to get college looks for athletics. You don't know. Don't pretend you do.

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